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Awesome! Any word on price for VF4% 2?
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You're a real hero. Thanks!
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I can’t wait for the ZF2! It sounds like an amazing upgrade from the already good ZF1.
With the FK VF 4% releasing at the same price, does that mean the EM version will be cheaper? Or have they been DCes all in all?
With the FK VF 4% releasing at the same price, does that mean the EM version will be cheaper? Or have they been DCes all in all?
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not complaining but i can't comprehend nikes pricing at times
$10 more and you get full react and flyknit and cf plate?
CF stays the same price and gets a flyknit upper?
then they have the vaporstreets that's $180 with flyknit and full react but not plate?
moon racers are $160 which is the same minus flyknit?
then turbos has zoomx + react for $180?
epic react with full react and flyknit for $150?
just all over the place
anyways... these moon racers are growing on me but it's only an outlet cop kind of like
$10 more and you get full react and flyknit and cf plate?
CF stays the same price and gets a flyknit upper?
then they have the vaporstreets that's $180 with flyknit and full react but not plate?
moon racers are $160 which is the same minus flyknit?
then turbos has zoomx + react for $180?
epic react with full react and flyknit for $150?
just all over the place
anyways... these moon racers are growing on me but it's only an outlet cop kind of like
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I’m saying though! Lol
I’m still waiting on the Streets to get discounted!
I’m still waiting on the Streets to get discounted!
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Streets have already been on sale in plenty of places.
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^Excluding NDC.
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Never seen this colorway before.
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Dang. They had so few cws... my favorites were the OG Ice Blue and the Vast Grey cws. Hopefully, the Flyknit version will have a better cw selection.
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flyknit is cheaper to make that flymesh? kind of hard to believe but even then you promot flyknit as your top tier upper you got to represent it but it's hard to complain about lower prices
crazy to think that rect would be cheaper than lunarlon too but it's technically the second year for it, with the "expense" on the research for that tech, you'd think they'd charge more similar to how they were charging an arm and a leg for flyknit for the longest time before it made it down to the frees but again it's hard to complain on cheaper prices
but then this doesn't even add up when you have the vaporstreets flyknit upper being more expensive than the moon racers cortez upper with leather/pleather hits
most still makes no sense to me, not doubting your sources but all i see is that nike prices it what the hell ever they want
and we'll just keep buying
crazy to think that rect would be cheaper than lunarlon too but it's technically the second year for it, with the "expense" on the research for that tech, you'd think they'd charge more similar to how they were charging an arm and a leg for flyknit for the longest time before it made it down to the frees but again it's hard to complain on cheaper prices
but then this doesn't even add up when you have the vaporstreets flyknit upper being more expensive than the moon racers cortez upper with leather/pleather hits
most still makes no sense to me, not doubting your sources but all i see is that nike prices it what the hell ever they want
and we'll just keep buying
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Might have missed it but is there a time table for the ZF2?
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Are your ZF SPs the same size as your 87s?
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flyknit is cheaper to make that flymesh? kind of hard to believe but even then you promot flyknit as your top tier upper you got to represent it but it's hard to complain about lower prices
crazy to think that rect would be cheaper than lunarlon too but it's technically the second year for it, with the "expense" on the research for that tech, you'd think they'd charge more similar to how they were charging an arm and a leg for flyknit for the longest time before it made it down to the frees but again it's hard to complain on cheaper prices
but then this doesn't even add up when you have the vaporstreets flyknit upper being more expensive than the moon racers cortez upper with leather/pleather hits
most still makes no sense to me, not doubting your sources but all i see is that nike prices it what the hell ever they want
and we'll just keep buying
the way nike introduced react and their marketing campaign comparing it with lunar, I dont know why but to me react has always seem to be just a beefier version of lunar - thus r&d might be cheaper since its a evolution of lunar? also they have been phasing out the lunar with react, guess you can say that for most foam based cushioning? zoomX is foam based but just seems to me its on another level the way they brand it how elusive they are thus far. i haven't try the 4% but it seems more like a zoom air (hence zoomX) sensation being firmer but maybe its not the cushioning and just the CF plate since my SPs feel great with lunar? everyone loved the 4%/ZF while the Turbos are getting mixed reviews.
you are right, at the end of the day we'll just keep buying LMAO.
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i think the accomplishment with react is being "bouncier" while also being light and zoomx takes that up a notch even farther by being even more bouncier while also being much lighter
so i think that is where the research resides as others hasn't quite figured it out yet
so i think that is where the research resides as others hasn't quite figured it out yet
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I asked you in the pegasus thread but I like this thread more lol so ill continue over here. Would you recommend the turbos, epic, or ZF for someone looking to get into running? im leaning towards ZF because I love the SPs and there are some good deals out there, but I was also thinking about splurging and try the turbos for that zoomX. I reading that its underwhelming without the CF and doesn't justify the premium for the slight improvement over react (epic react)? not much to say about the epics they just seem more well rounded as a runner and lifestyle shoe?
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Any muscle rubs that you guys use for bits of soreness every now and again?
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everyone's feet is different so the best advice is to just try them out especially if this is your first time into running
i personally prefer the turbos over epic react, epic react was just too firm for my liking and the flyknit upper is tight but that's also because i have a high instep
if you have a chance, check out a local running store like fleetfeet, they can find the right shoe for you and some of them let you try out the shoe outside for a quick run
if i were to recommend something though, i say do not splurge on a pair until you know what you like but check out the pegasus 35 as a cheaper alternative, it's a more traditional shoe in a sense with it's full length zoom
you like the ZFSP but it could be off-putting running in them because of the plate but they are also cheap to try out now, outlets has ZF roaming at around $50 price range and the non-SP versions has a more durable upper while still looking good
i'd start out with those two as it won't break the bank, you can also order from NDC and you got a month or two to try it out and easily return them if they do not suit you no questions asked
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try out foam rollers, they do wonders
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thanks for the advise basically what i needed and pretty close to what i had in mind. just wanted the turbos cause i feel like they are pretty amazing looking shoe and could use it for lifestyle if i don't like it for running. most likely going for the ZF for the price and performance, and yes the SPs are too nice.
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Been foam rolling for awhile my man! And they definitely do for sure especially on those IT bands
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Have you guys tried the R8 roller? I first tried it during TSP. I was so impressed with how I felt after a session that got my own lol
