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How many of you use it or know much about this supplement? is it as safe as whey protein? I dont want to touch it if it has the side effects creatine has
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Originally Posted by Yankeephan87
yeah i was always told that creatine has side effects
Oh yeah I guess thats what happened. somebody told me it had some bad side effects so I never tried it. But if you use creatine or Nitric Oxideand stop, will you loose your gains?Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Yankeephan87
yeah i was always told that creatine has side effects
Side effects???
Theres really no side effects with creatine, just issues that arise if tis not taken properly.
Co-sign. It is a very good supplement to use if you like it and it works for you. I used it for about a year with amazing results. You don'treally feel sore after a workout for some reason or at least that's what happened with me. Also don't take too much, only stick to the correct servingsize. I took too much once and got all jittery and light headed and my skin itched all over. Anyways I recommend at least giving it a try, I know a lot of myfriends who are body builders and use it.Originally Posted by maxi320
NO explode isnt whey protein. It won't help you build muscle, it is supposed to pump you up for your workout.
It doesn't make u able to lift more, just more focused, and give you more energy.
My friend said it works for him.
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Yankeephan87
yeah i was always told that creatine has side effects
Side effects???
Theres really no side effects with creatine, just issues that arise if tis not taken properly.
It won't help you build muscle, it is supposed to pump you up for your workout.
It does, actually. NO- Explode and Nitrix are made to increase the circulation inside the body, with increase circulation you enable more fresh oxygenatedblood to get to the muscles with nutrients to help it grow. That's why to get the full effect of these supplements you should stack with a protein,glutamene, or creatine supplement. Nitric Oxide wont hurt you, it's actually good for the body, what do you think the main ingredient in Viagra is? NitricOxide, why? It increases circulation. NO-Explode isnt all Nitric Oxide like Nitrix is.
Originally Posted by Fede DPT
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Yankeephan87
yeah i was always told that creatine has side effects
Side effects???
Theres really no side effects with creatine, just issues that arise if tis not taken properly.
True. I dealt with younger patients who ended up getting kidney stones from Creatine and NO2. The problem is that you have to drink 120oz. of H2O a day minimum, these are macromolecules that will not filter through the body properly without enough water. If I was going to take Creatine it would be the liquid kind taken under the tongue because it enter the blood stream so much faster.
NO-Explode is only for people who want to lose weight and tone up an little bit because it has alot of caffeine in it and caffeine suppresses you appetite.
I've been taking Nitrix 3-4 times a week because I dont want my body to get use to the affects of it and Protien shakes for a couple of years. I also drink near 140oz. of H2O a day.
It won't help you build muscle, it is supposed to pump you up for your workout.
Originally Posted by Durden7
Whoa whoa whoa... youre off base with some of these statements here.
Originally Posted by Fede DPT
Originally Posted by Durden7
Originally Posted by Yankeephan87
yeah i was always told that creatine has side effects
Side effects???
Theres really no side effects with creatine, just issues that arise if tis not taken properly.
True. I dealt with younger patients who ended up getting kidney stones from Creatine and NO2. The problem is that you have to drink 120oz. of H2O a day minimum, these are macromolecules that will not filter through the body properly without enough water. If I was going to take Creatine it would be the liquid kind taken under the tongue because it enter the blood stream so much faster.
NO-Explode is only for people who want to lose weight and tone up an little bit because it has alot of caffeine in it and caffeine suppresses you appetite.
I've been taking Nitrix 3-4 times a week because I dont want my body to get use to the affects of it and Protien shakes for a couple of years. I also drink near 140oz. of H2O a day.
It won't help you build muscle, it is supposed to pump you up for your workout.
Originally Posted by Fede DPT
Originally Posted by Durden7
Whoa whoa whoa... youre off base with some of these statements here.
No, I'm not.
lulz..Originally Posted by The Kid Fiasco
Best Drink ever invented other than Chocolate Milk.
N.O. is great, never gave me any problems been using for 2 years.. just sometimes gives me upset stomachs, and use the bathroom alot. but its worth it.
Grape N.O. FTW![]()
Originally Posted by Id Walk a Mile for a Camel
120 oz? OD, stay properly hydrated (as you should anyway) and you will be fine. Please show me evidence of creatine causing kidney damage please? And kidney stones? They are usually made up of calcium, sometimes other minerals. Not creatine.
Liquid creatine/creatine suspensions are complete bogus science, creatine degrades the moment it touches water. Anyone claiming to produce a liquid suspension of creatine is lying through their teeth.
NO-Xplode is for anyone, not just those seeking to lose weight. Just like any other generic pre-workout supp it's got caffeine, a proven performance enhancer, creatine, and arginine (what you are calling NO2) which gives you the pump
Nitric Oxide is NOT good for the body. It's one thing to say that it's not dangerous (which its not if taken properly), but it certainly is not GOOD for you. Multivitamens are good for you, creatine is not.
Bro, do you even know what Nitric Oxide and Creatine does in the body? Creatine is naturally made in the body. Nitric Oxide is made by the body naturally andit actually helps out with your immune system, lowers blood pressure, and induces cytotoxic t-cells that attack cancer. Obviously, too much of anything is badfor the body.
The main ingredient of Viagra isnt Nitric Oxide.![]()
Why do you think they tell people who take Nitrates NOT to take Viagra? Nitroglycerin induces Nitric Oxide and thus taking Viagra which also already has NitricOxide and components that produce a chemical synthesis called aromatic nitration and it can block an inhibitor which I cant remember off the top of my headthat can lead to stroke or angina.
Damn, no wonder why they tell people to seek a physician before taking these things, yall have no clue what things actually are or what you are taking. Yoududes probably read bodybuilding.com or listen to some minimum wage lames at GNC.
Originally Posted by Fede DPT
Originally Posted by Id Walk a Mile for a Camel
120 oz? OD, stay properly hydrated (as you should anyway) and you will be fine. Please show me evidence of creatine causing kidney damage please? And kidney stones? They are usually made up of calcium, sometimes other minerals. Not creatine.
Liquid creatine/creatine suspensions are complete bogus science, creatine degrades the moment it touches water. Anyone claiming to produce a liquid suspension of creatine is lying through their teeth.
NO-Xplode is for anyone, not just those seeking to lose weight. Just like any other generic pre-workout supp it's got caffeine, a proven performance enhancer, creatine, and arginine (what you are calling NO2) which gives you the pump
I didn't say creatine causes kidneys stones directly. The creatine absorbs alot of water and retains in the body, basically sucking it up so it doesn't go through the body completely. That's why you need to drink alot of water. And considering that Creatine is primarily synthesized inside the the kidneys, you should be drinking ALOT of water so it filters through. I have read peer-review journal articles (and can provide them) on Creatine used in short-term intervals taken properly and there were no adverse effects on them, but there havent been any long term studies on creatine. Those kids I was talking about actually told me that their physician told them they did not drink an adequate amount of water, that was there reason for kidney stones. What do you think gives you that "pump"? Dilation of blood vessels that increase blood circulation.
120oz. of water is not OD, if I'm not mistaken, it is actually recommended to drink that amount when taking NO-Explode as a supplement, but people in general dont drink enough water. And no, NO-Explode is not for everyone.
I've done rotations with some professional sports teams, athletes on the Marlins and Dolphins take liquid creatine. I see it first hand and they are in impeccable shape and their team athletic trainers and physicians recommend them to take it in liquid form because under the tongue is the quicked digestion.
Nitric Oxide is NOT good for the body. It's one thing to say that it's not dangerous (which its not if taken properly), but it certainly is not GOOD for you. Multivitamens are good for you, creatine is not.
The main ingredient of Viagra isnt Nitric Oxide.![]()
Why do you think they tell people who take Nitrates NOT to take Viagra? Nitroglycerin induces Nitric Oxide and thus taking Viagra which also already has Nitric Oxide and components that produce a chemical synthesis called aromatic nitration and it can block an inhibitor which I cant remember off the top of my head that can lead to stroke or angina.
Damn, no wonder why they tell people to seek a physician before taking these things, yall have no clue what things actually are or what you are taking. You dudes probably read bodybuilding.com or listen to some minimum wage lames at GNC.
creatine is in no way related to the "pump" you experience. the whole creatine harming the kidneys myth was due to poor science- people saw elevatedcreatinine (creatine byproduct) levels in the urine in creatine users, assumed it was stressing the kidneys, etc. etc. no evidence has been found to supportthis - as far as i know, no study has found any short OR long-term risks associated with creatine consumption.
120 oz is probably what i consume but i drink more water than nayone i know- honestly for most people 80-100 oz is more than enough. if you're 250 lbs orsomething maybe 120 is neccessary, but for most people it's excessive. even drinking 64 oz (8 glasses a day) has not been found to increase health in anyway, only low levels (not sure what constitutes "low" but i'm sure it's quite a bit lower than any of these) are associated with kidneystress, etc. we get a lot more water than we realize through food.
i could find the evidence if you'd like, but i'm telling you right now, anyone familiar with supplement science will tell you immediately that liquidcreatine is one of the best-known hoaxes in the supplement industry. nobody who knows wht theyre doing even considers buying them, creatine+water = creatinine,point blank, and it will degrade as such in a matter of minutes.
sublingual administration of drugs sure does help them absorb directly into the bloodstream, you're right about that. but in this case all you'reabsorbing is a useless compound (creatinine).
and for the record, there is a wealth of great info on bb.com. plenty of garbage too of course, but that goes for any forum/website where anyone can submitcontent.