NT, how would you react?

Originally Posted by Space DooDoo Pistols

I've been followed at Wal-Mart... I walked up right next to him and started following him around.


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happened to me at a safeway last year, came in and hit the chips aisle and noticed this short dark skinned black woman...don't think she was from the U.S. but she was black....kept walking back and forth peaking down the aisle at me......I was irate, because even though I look young I had the chin hair going on and I wasn't no youngster.

I was followed some more after I left said aisle and walked down the pathway past the parishables. I was super close to saying something but I just went up to check out after I got my stuff, she followed somebody else after me....I gave her a crazy look after it was all said and done.

definitely not a good feeling, especially having to deal with this from your own people.
 
happened to me at a safeway last year, came in and hit the chips aisle and noticed this short dark skinned black woman...don't think she was from the U.S. but she was black....kept walking back and forth peaking down the aisle at me......I was irate, because even though I look young I had the chin hair going on and I wasn't no youngster.

I was followed some more after I left said aisle and walked down the pathway past the parishables. I was super close to saying something but I just went up to check out after I got my stuff, she followed somebody else after me....I gave her a crazy look after it was all said and done.

definitely not a good feeling, especially having to deal with this from your own people.
 
i woulda went straight to the greeting card aisle for like 20 minutes, then to the magazine aisle for 20 minutes, hit the liquor section for 10, stand around on my phone for 10, then finally get in line, and act like i forgot my wallet lmaoooooo
 
i woulda went straight to the greeting card aisle for like 20 minutes, then to the magazine aisle for 20 minutes, hit the liquor section for 10, stand around on my phone for 10, then finally get in line, and act like i forgot my wallet lmaoooooo
 
It's happened to me before alone and with ppl. I just give them a nice exercise. I'll be in the maxi-pad aisle just +#%+%!# with them. When I'm with ppl I just start talking loud about racists, I'll even mention the situation of being followed in the store as if it's hypothetical.

Sometimes I'll even start running to see if they'll keep up
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It's happened to me before alone and with ppl. I just give them a nice exercise. I'll be in the maxi-pad aisle just +#%+%!# with them. When I'm with ppl I just start talking loud about racists, I'll even mention the situation of being followed in the store as if it's hypothetical.

Sometimes I'll even start running to see if they'll keep up
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Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe

Originally Posted by RealRubirosa



He works there, he has all the right to follow them around as he pleases. There's no law saying that loss prevention employees need to be polite.

This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences. 

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.
 
Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe

Originally Posted by RealRubirosa



He works there, he has all the right to follow them around as he pleases. There's no law saying that loss prevention employees need to be polite.

This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences. 

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.
 
Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.


not only black. Latino too.D tryint to act like black people are the only ones followed. I'mLatino and been followed plenty of times.


I wasnt "acting" no particular way I was just refering to the vid calm down
 
Originally Posted by kvsm23vs24

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.


not only black. Latino too.D tryint to act like black people are the only ones followed. I'mLatino and been followed plenty of times.


I wasnt "acting" no particular way I was just refering to the vid calm down
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences, ignorance

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.
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I'm curious as to how much racism exactly you've encountered in your life. Maybe it's where you grew up or you've just bought into what white people have been feeding you or whatever, but there's no excuse for being that harassing to someone in a store.  Loss Prevention is a joke half the time.  Guys that couldn't make it onto the police force, but they want a job where they can power trip and take out their insecurities.  I've worked in enough retail operations to see it a few times over.  I remember my first job was in Sports Authority and our LP guys were as racist as it gets.  They'd spend all day following every black and latino around the store, and it was pretty obvious.  They'd get customers yelling at them constantly.  They very rarely caught anybody.  FF a few months, they hired some black dude that looked like D-bo and wasn't profiling races, just looking for whoever looked like they were up to something.  Caught 3 shoplifters his first week on the job and they were all 13-16 year old white kids.  There's no profile for a shoplifter you have to go by their behavior.
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences, ignorance

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.
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I'm curious as to how much racism exactly you've encountered in your life. Maybe it's where you grew up or you've just bought into what white people have been feeding you or whatever, but there's no excuse for being that harassing to someone in a store.  Loss Prevention is a joke half the time.  Guys that couldn't make it onto the police force, but they want a job where they can power trip and take out their insecurities.  I've worked in enough retail operations to see it a few times over.  I remember my first job was in Sports Authority and our LP guys were as racist as it gets.  They'd spend all day following every black and latino around the store, and it was pretty obvious.  They'd get customers yelling at them constantly.  They very rarely caught anybody.  FF a few months, they hired some black dude that looked like D-bo and wasn't profiling races, just looking for whoever looked like they were up to something.  Caught 3 shoplifters his first week on the job and they were all 13-16 year old white kids.  There's no profile for a shoplifter you have to go by their behavior.
 
It's reflects poorly on Publix that they didn't even talk to the kid though. I remember when I worked retail job one of the things they drilled into us was that the best way to stop opportunity shrink is to engage the customer. It really does help to deter shoplifting, unless the person is committed to stealing something, and then there really isn't anything you can do about it.
 
It's reflects poorly on Publix that they didn't even talk to the kid though. I remember when I worked retail job one of the things they drilled into us was that the best way to stop opportunity shrink is to engage the customer. It really does help to deter shoplifting, unless the person is committed to stealing something, and then there really isn't anything you can do about it.
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences. 

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.


They were followed because they were young black teens
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You then go on to explain why Minorities should be followed more than white poeple, stop defending racism. I dont care if you yourself are a minority, it sucks to prejudged in such a way that I cant even go to a store without being harrased.
 
Originally Posted by RealRubirosa

Originally Posted by sloanboy

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe


This.
it's his job....
its his job to be racist? Its obvious he did this because they were black and dont even think about saying he would have done this if they were white.
Is it obvious? You don't think the fact that they're two young people in hoodies walking around the store like they were trying to lose the guy wasn't the least bit suspicious? Have you ever worked in retail? Awkward behavior is one of the biggest signs that loss prevention agents look for. Even if they were stealing, do you think when they asked why they were being followed that they would have confirmed the man's suspicions and tell him they were stealing? Of course not. Most thieves, when confronted in that situation, deny, deny, deny and then go into some sort of stereotyping-is-wrong spiel.

I swear people pull the race card without even thinking...

With that said, you can't be totally disassociated with the world and not see why race can be factored into the profile of a shoplifter. If you worked in the store and noticed that most of the people stealing from you happened to dress a certain way, act a certain way, and be of a certain race (usually black and latino, but even white or asian with an "urban" influence), then how long do you expect LP to not add that into the profile? It's just raw fact that young minorities and the like shoplift more often than older non-minorities. The profiles are not racist but they are indeed race-based, but profiles and stereotypes aren't built from nonsense--they're built from experiences. 

I'm a minority member (sort of, Latinos are supposedly becoming the majority) and I'm totally understanding of why LP agents do what they do and that they don't mean harm to us, but rather are looking out for their business. Trust me, if every person they followed that fit the classic shoplifter profile ended up going to the register and paying for their items, they'd probably stop using that profile... but the people of that profile don't always pay for the stuff (as the story posted above supports) and the profile lives on.

Don't like it? "Be the change you wish to see in the world," as Gandhi said.


They were followed because they were young black teens
laugh.gif
 

You then go on to explain why Minorities should be followed more than white poeple, stop defending racism. I dont care if you yourself are a minority, it sucks to prejudged in such a way that I cant even go to a store without being harrased.
 
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