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Official 2009 NCAA Tournament Thread. The Very Best Have Gathered Upon One Stage.
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My column from today's newspaper and my blog: Crawford's Corner Tournament Breakdown
Busy scribbling teams out in the Sweet 16 and finishing up your tournament brackets? Here's my formula to March Madness victory, free of charge to my blogreaders.
Louisville, Memphis, UNC and either Duke/Tenn will be in the Final Four. I haven't decided whether or not to go with a Duke/UNC national semifinal or aHeels-Vols battle.
I liked Memphis before the season started because of Freshman PG Tyreke Evans. I like Memphis as much, if not more now, to cut down the nets in Detroit.Plus one for Calipari's group. A group that plays great defense, displays its athleticism nightly and is better at the charity stripe compared to lastyear's runner-up team.
Pittsburgh/UConn tie for being the weakest one seeds. The loss of Dyson will inevitably stop the Huskies and Pittsburgh has too much trouble scoring.Don't have either in your Final Four. I have No. 9 Tennessee over the Panthers in round two. Gutsy? I know. I admit it's a stretch but I like how BrucePearl's bunch matches up with Pitt. Of course, the trifecta must be true for the Vols to have a legitimate shot.
Office Pool Rules from Crawford's Corner:
1. Don't pick your favorite team or by conference allegiance
2. Rely on perimeter shooting, rebounding and point guard play.
3. Don't look for the Cinderella. Like all Cinderella's, you will most likely pick the wrong one.
4. Pick squads that have been on a roll or won/played well in their conference tournament.
5. Last but not least, remember the big game coaches (Pitino, Calhoun, K, Williams, Boeheim, Izzo).
Be leary of upsets this season. After pondering the 2009 field, I don't expect too many upsets in the opening round. Siena over Ohio State seemsplausible, as does No.12 Western Kentucky over the 5th-seeded Fighting Illini. Outside of those two matchups, I'm not sure of too many teams fitting theglass slipper.
We all love Eric Maynor. (similar to America's love affair with Steph Curry last March) But let's face it, UCLA is better than VCU. UCLA has madethree straight trips to the Final Four. UCLA has one of the best defensive guards in the nation in Darren Collison. Please don't pick the Rams in this 11/6contest.
ACC fans, Wake Forest has the best shot outside the big two to make a deep run. Florida State is inexperienced, Maryland's defense is shotty at timesand Clemson is, well, Clemson. Boston College will lose to a red-hot Southern California squad in the first round.
Duke needs to be careful with Texas while UNC has a chance at being upset by Trent Johnson's Tigers in the second round. If Ty Lawson is 100%, the Heelsadvance to the National Title Game to face Memphis.
As I predicted nearly correct last season, Calipari gets a National Championship at Ford Field in Detroit in April.
Busy scribbling teams out in the Sweet 16 and finishing up your tournament brackets? Here's my formula to March Madness victory, free of charge to my blogreaders.
Louisville, Memphis, UNC and either Duke/Tenn will be in the Final Four. I haven't decided whether or not to go with a Duke/UNC national semifinal or aHeels-Vols battle.
I liked Memphis before the season started because of Freshman PG Tyreke Evans. I like Memphis as much, if not more now, to cut down the nets in Detroit.Plus one for Calipari's group. A group that plays great defense, displays its athleticism nightly and is better at the charity stripe compared to lastyear's runner-up team.
Pittsburgh/UConn tie for being the weakest one seeds. The loss of Dyson will inevitably stop the Huskies and Pittsburgh has too much trouble scoring.Don't have either in your Final Four. I have No. 9 Tennessee over the Panthers in round two. Gutsy? I know. I admit it's a stretch but I like how BrucePearl's bunch matches up with Pitt. Of course, the trifecta must be true for the Vols to have a legitimate shot.
Office Pool Rules from Crawford's Corner:
1. Don't pick your favorite team or by conference allegiance
2. Rely on perimeter shooting, rebounding and point guard play.
3. Don't look for the Cinderella. Like all Cinderella's, you will most likely pick the wrong one.
4. Pick squads that have been on a roll or won/played well in their conference tournament.
5. Last but not least, remember the big game coaches (Pitino, Calhoun, K, Williams, Boeheim, Izzo).
Be leary of upsets this season. After pondering the 2009 field, I don't expect too many upsets in the opening round. Siena over Ohio State seemsplausible, as does No.12 Western Kentucky over the 5th-seeded Fighting Illini. Outside of those two matchups, I'm not sure of too many teams fitting theglass slipper.
We all love Eric Maynor. (similar to America's love affair with Steph Curry last March) But let's face it, UCLA is better than VCU. UCLA has madethree straight trips to the Final Four. UCLA has one of the best defensive guards in the nation in Darren Collison. Please don't pick the Rams in this 11/6contest.
ACC fans, Wake Forest has the best shot outside the big two to make a deep run. Florida State is inexperienced, Maryland's defense is shotty at timesand Clemson is, well, Clemson. Boston College will lose to a red-hot Southern California squad in the first round.
Duke needs to be careful with Texas while UNC has a chance at being upset by Trent Johnson's Tigers in the second round. If Ty Lawson is 100%, the Heelsadvance to the National Title Game to face Memphis.
As I predicted nearly correct last season, Calipari gets a National Championship at Ford Field in Detroit in April.
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I see no one has faith in my Buckeyes. Turner, Mullens, Buford, and Diebler are too much for ANYTHING Siena has.
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Siena played Pitt and Kansas tough and beat two NCAA tournament participants (Cornell and Northern Iowa).
Four starters average double figures and SG Kenny Hasbrouck has 10 games of 20 or more points. 30 + twice.
They definitely have the players to compete with Ohio State.
Four starters average double figures and SG Kenny Hasbrouck has 10 games of 20 or more points. 30 + twice.
They definitely have the players to compete with Ohio State.
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Cornell and N. Iowa
If they were in the Big Ten, they would barely be a .500 team at best.
They would not beat Mich St., Purdue, Illinois, Minnesota, etc....
You guys are killing me. The only mid-majors that have a chance in the tourney are Butler and VCU.
How can you consider a 13 point loss a tough game?
They have NO size, that will be their downfall.
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This is the most I've ever changed my bracket around...I'm having so much trouble but some upsets I chose earlier (Siena over PITT and UCLA over'Nova) I just don't see happening...
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How was their size when they beat Ogilivy last year?
One of the Lopez brothers last year?
How bout the fact Ryan Rossiter was the most improved player in the MAAC this year?
Honestly, if you haven't seen them play outside of a game or 2...why even discuss them? You're gona look foolish.
They're better than VCU and I would love any reasons as to why they aren't....
One of the Lopez brothers last year?
How bout the fact Ryan Rossiter was the most improved player in the MAAC this year?
Honestly, if you haven't seen them play outside of a game or 2...why even discuss them? You're gona look foolish.
They're better than VCU and I would love any reasons as to why they aren't....
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Quit being silly Al... VCU has Maynor
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...and quite frankly...you know the rest.Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Quit being silly Al... VCU has Maynor
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Your talking crazy now homie.......
OSU is a better team this year then Vandy was last year.
Turner is better in his sophmore year then Foster was his last year.
Maynor beat Duke by himself.
Maynor will go top 15 minimum in the NBA draft.
Sanders will be a pro as well at some point.
Do I need to go on?
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MAAC most improved player is not saying much at all.
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Vandy was a 4 seed and Shan Foster was SEC POY...
How's that add up?
How's that add up?
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allen just in case Mizzou meets Memphis in the Sweet 16, can you provide a little briefing about the Tigers from Columbia? I'm worried that the Westregion will #@#@ up everyone's bracket.
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That's up Nowitness ally..
I don't know much other than Carroll/Lyons and that statistically they're good and they press
I don't know much other than Carroll/Lyons and that statistically they're good and they press
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The SEC BARELY got 3 teams in the tourney. And that was because Miss St. won the conference tournament.
Maynor will be the next point guard behind Jennings picked in the draft. Atleast thats what the "experts" say......
www.nbadraft.net
You keep screaming Vandy, like they were THAT good.
Where is Foster and Ogilvy now??????
Turner, Buford, and Mullens will be in the league.
Maynor will be the next point guard behind Jennings picked in the draft. Atleast thats what the "experts" say......
www.nbadraft.net
You keep screaming Vandy, like they were THAT good.
Where is Foster and Ogilvy now??????
Turner, Buford, and Mullens will be in the league.
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| What Vegas is thinkin...that CSU/Wake line is sketchy
Binghamton vs Duke - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Greensboro Coliseum - Greensgoro,NC | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 707 | Binghamton | +22 -110 | +2750 | Over 138 -110 | ||
| 9:40PM (EST) | 708 | Duke | -22 -110 | -6000 | Under 138 -110 | ||
| Minnesota U vs Texas - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Greensboro Coliseum - Greensgoro,NC | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 709 | Minnesota U | +4 -110 | +165 | Over 126½ -110 | ||
| 7:10PM (EST) | 710 | Texas | -4 -110 | -190 | Under 126½ -110 | ||
| Radford vs North Carolina - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Greensboro Coliseum - Greensgoro,NC | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 711 | Radford | +26½ -110 | Over 164 -110 | |||
| 2:50PM (EST) | 712 | North Carolina | -26½ -110 | Under 164 -110 | |||
| Butler vs LSU - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Greensboro Coliseum - Greensgoro,NC | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 713 | Butler | +2½ -110 | +120 | Over 127 -110 | ||
| 12:20PM (EST) | 714 | LSU | -2½ -110 | -140 | Under 127 -110 | ||
| Tennessee Chat vs Connecticut - NCAA Tournament - First Round Wachovia Center - Philadelphia,PA | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 715 | Tennessee Chat | +20½ -110 | +2000 | Over 145 -110 | ||
| 3:00PM (EST) | 716 | Connecticut | -20½ -110 | -4000 | Under 145 -110 | ||
| Texas A&M vs BYU - NCAA Tournament - First Round Wachovia Center - Philadelphia,PA | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 717 | Texas A&M | +2 -110 | +110 | Over 139 -110 | ||
| 12:30PM (EST) | 718 | BYU | -2 -110 | -130 | Under 139 -110 | ||
| American vs Villanova - NCAA Tournament - First Round Wachovia Center - Philadelphia,PA | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 719 | American | +16½ -110 | +1250 | Over 129½ -110 | ||
| 7:20PM (EST) | 720 | Villanova | -16½ -110 | -2000 | Under 129½ -110 | ||
| VA Commonwealth vs UCLA - NCAA Tournament - First Round Wachovia Center - Philadelphia,PA | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 721 | VA Commonwealth | +7 -110 | +250 | Over 136 -110 | ||
| 9:50PM (EST) | 722 | UCLA | -7 -110 | -300 | Under 136 -110 | ||
| CS Northridge vs Memphis U - NCAA Tournament - First Round Sprint Center - Kansas City,MO | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 723 | CS Northridge | +19½ -110 | +1850 | Over 130½ -110 | ||
| 12:25PM (EST) | 724 | Memphis U | -19½ -110 | -3700 | Under 130½ -110 | ||
| Maryland vs California - NCAA Tournament - First Round Sprint Center - Kansas City,MO | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 725 | Maryland | +1 -110 | +100 | Over 141 -110 | ||
| 2:55PM (EST) | 726 | California | -1 -110 | -120 | Under 141 -110 | ||
| Morgan State vs Oklahoma - NCAA Tournament - First Round Sprint Center - Kansas City,MO | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 727 | Morgan State | +16½ -110 | +1250 | Over 135½ -110 | ||
| 9:40PM (EST) | 728 | Oklahoma | -16½ -110 | -2000 | Under 135½ -110 | ||
| Michigan vs Clemson - NCAA Tournament - First Round Sprint Center - Kansas City,MO | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 729 | Michigan | +5 -110 | +185 | Over 137½ -110 | ||
| 7:10PM (EST) | 730 | Clemson | -5 -110 | -225 | Under 137½ -110 | ||
| Northern Iowa vs Purdue - NCAA Tournament - First Round Rose Garden - Portland,OR | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 731 | Northern Iowa | +8 -110 | +315 | Over 124 -110 | ||
| 2:30PM (EST) | 732 | Purdue | -8 -110 | -380 | Under 124 -110 | ||
| Mississippi State vs Washington U - NCAA Tournament - First Round Rose Garden - Portland,OR | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 733 | Mississippi State | +5 -110 | +180 | Over 148½ -110 | ||
| 4:55PM (EST) | 734 | Washington U | -5 -110 | -220 | Under 148½ -110 | ||
| Western Kentucky vs Illinois - NCAA Tournament - First Round Rose Garden - Portland,OR | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 735 | Western Kentucky | +4½ -110 | +170 | Over 124½ -110 | ||
| 9:55PM (EST) | 736 | Illinois | -4½ -110 | -200 | Under 124½ -110 | ||
| Akron vs Gonzaga - NCAA Tournament - First Round Rose Garden - Portland,OR | |||||||
| Thu 3/19 | 737 | Akron | +12½ -110 | +650 | Over 131½ -110 | ||
| 7:25PM (EST) | 738 | Gonzaga | -12½ -110 | -1000 | Under 131½ -110 | ||
| Arizona vs Utah U - NCAA Tournament - First Round - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 823 | Arizona | pk -110 | Over 135½ -110 | |||
| 7:10PM (EST) | 824 | Utah U | pk -110 | Under 135½ -110 | |||
| Cleveland State vs Wake Forest - NCAA Tournament - First Round - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 825 | Cleveland State | +7½ -110 | +280 | Over 137 -110 | ||
| 9:40PM (EST) | 826 | Wake Forest | -7½ -110 | -340 | Under 137 -110 | ||
| Stephen F Austin vs Syracuse - NCAA Tournament - First Round - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 827 | Stephen F Austin | +12 -110 | +600 | Over 131½ -110 | ||
| 12:15PM (EST) | 828 | Syracuse | -12 -110 | -900 | Under 131½ -110 | ||
| Temple vs Arizona State - NCAA Tournament - First Round - American Airlines Arena - Miami, FL | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 829 | Temple | +4½ -110 | +170 | Over 124 -110 | ||
| 2:45PM (EST) | 830 | Arizona State | -4½ -110 | -200 | Under 124 -110 | ||
| Siena vs Ohio State - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Dayton Arena - Dayton, OH | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 833 | Siena | +3 -110 | +135 | Over 141½ -110 | ||
| 9:40PM (EST) | 834 | Ohio State | -3 -110 | -155 | Under 141½ -110 | ||
| East Tennessee State vs Pittsburgh - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Dayton Arena - Dayton, OH | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 835 | East Tennessee State | +20 -110 | +2250 | Over 148 -110 | ||
| 2:55PM (EST) | 836 | Pittsburgh | -20 -110 | -4500 | Under 148 -110 | ||
| Tennessee vs Oklahoma State - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Dayton Arena - Dayton, OH | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 837 | Tennessee | -2 -110 | -135 | Over 157½ -110 | ||
| 12:25PM (EST) | 838 | Oklahoma State | +2 -110 | +115 | Under 157½ -110 | ||
| Robert Morris vs Michigan State - NCAA Tournament - First Round - HHH Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 839 | Robert Morris | +16½ -110 | +1250 | Over 129½ -110 | ||
| 9:50PM (EST) | 840 | Michigan State | -16½ -110 | -2000 | Under 129½ -110 | ||
| USC vs Boston College - NCAA Tournament - First Round - HHH Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 841 | USC | -2 -110 | -130 | Over 135½ -110 | ||
| 7:20PM (EST) | 842 | Boston College | +2 -110 | +110 | Under 135½ -110 | ||
| North Dakota State vs Kansas - NCAA Tournament - First Round - HHH Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 843 | North Dakota State | +10 -110 | +475 | Over 144½ -110 | ||
| 12:30PM (EST) | 844 | Kansas | -10 -110 | -650 | Under 144½ -110 | ||
| Dayton vs West Virginia - NCAA Tournament - First Round - HHH Metrodome - Minneapolis, MN | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 845 | Dayton | +8½ -110 | +345 | Over 128 -110 | ||
| 3:00PM (EST) | 846 | West Virginia | -8½ -110 | -430 | Under 128 -110 | ||
| Cornell vs Missouri - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Taco Bell Arena - Boise, ID | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 847 | Cornell | +13 -110 | +700 | Over 146 -110 | ||
| 3:00PM (EST) | 848 | Missouri | -13 -110 | -1100 | Under 146 -110 | ||
| Utah State vs Marquette - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Taco Bell Arena - Boise, ID | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 849 | Utah State | +4½ -110 | +170 | Over 142 -110 | ||
| 12:30PM (EST) | 850 | Marquette | -4½ -110 | -200 | Under 142 -110 | ||
| Wisconsin vs Florida State - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Taco Bell Arena - Boise, ID | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 851 | Wisconsin | +2½ -110 | +125 | Over 121½ -110 | ||
| 9:55PM (EST) | 852 | Florida State | -2½ -110 | -145 | Under 121½ -110 | ||
| Portland State vs Xavier - NCAA Tournament - First Round - Taco Bell Arena - Boise, ID | |||||||
| Fri 3/20 | 853 | Portland State | +10½ -110 | +475 | Over 135½ -110 | ||
| 7:25PM (EST) | 854 | Xavier | -10½ -110 | -650 | Under 135½ -110 | |
Thu 3/19 12:00PM (EST)
| Pittsburgh | +140 |
| Duke | +360 |
| Villanova | +635 |
| UCLA | +850 |
| Xavier | +1400 |
| Florida State | +2000 |
| Wisconsin | +2800 |
| Oklahoma State | +3000 |
| Texas | +3000 |
| Minnesota | +4500 |
| Tennessee | +5000 |
| VCU | +7500 |
| Portland State | +50000 |
| American | +60000 |
| East Tennessee State | +100000 |
| Binghamton | +150000 |
Midwest Region
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| Louisville | +170 |
| Michigan State | +400 |
| Kansas | +675 |
| Wake Forest | +700 |
| West Virginia | +700 |
| Ohio State | +2200 |
| Southern Cal | +2500 |
| Utah U. | +2500 |
| Arizona | +4000 |
| Boston College | +6000 |
| Siena | +6600 |
| Cleveland State | +12500 |
| Dayton | +15000 |
| N. Dakota State | +20000 |
| Robert Morris | +150000 |
NCAA Championship
Thu 3/19 12:05PM (EST)[/th]
| North Carolina | +345 |
| Pittsburgh | +600 |
| Louisville | +700 |
| Connecticut | +900 |
| Memphis | +1000 |
| Duke | +1900 |
| Oklahoma | +2000 |
| Michigan State | +2200 |
| Gonzaga | +2800 |
| Villanova | +3300 |
| Missouri | +3500 |
| Wake Forest | +3800 |
| Kansas | +4000 |
| Syracuse | +4800 |
| UCLA | +4800 |
| West Virginia | +4800 |
| Washington | +5500 |
| Purdue | +5800 |
| Arizona State | +6600 |
| Clemson | +9500 |
| Florida State | +10000 |
| Utah | +12000 |
| Boston College | +12500 |
| Marquette | +12500 |
| Tennessee | +12500 |
| Xavier | +12500 |
| Southern California | +13000 |
| Texas | +14000 |
| Illinois | +15000 |
| California | +16000 |
| LSU | +16000 |
| Oklahoma State | +17500 |
| Arizona | +20000 |
| Maryland | +20000 |
| Ohio State | +20000 |
| BYU | +25000 |
| Minnesota | +25000 |
| Wisconsin | +30000 |
| Butler | +30000 |
| Michigan | +35000 |
| Texas A&M | +35000 |
| Temple | +40000 |
| Mississippi State | +50000 |
| Dayton | +50000 |
| Cleveland St. | +50000 |
| Siena | +60000 |
| Utah St | +70000 |
| Western Kentucky | +100000 |
| N. Dakota St. | +100000 |
| VCU | +100000 |
| Northern Iowa | +150000 |
| Portland St. | +200000 |
| Akron | +200000 |
| American | +200000 |
| S. F. Austin | +200000 |
| Cornell | +200000 |
| Binghamton | +200000 |
| Morgan St. | +200000 |
| CS Northridge | +200000 |
| Robert Morris | +200000 |
| E. Tenn. St. | +500000 |
| Radford | +500000 |
| Chattanooga | +500000 |
| Alabama St./Morehead St. | +999999 |
South Region
Thu 3/19 12:00PM (EST)[/th]
| North Carolina | -115 |
| Oklahoma | +550 |
| Gonzaga | +625 |
| Syracuse | +785 |
| Arizona State | +1400 |
| Illinois | +1800 |
| Clemson | +2200 |
| Butler | +5000 |
| Michigan | +5500 |
| LSU | +7500 |
| Temple | +9000 |
| Western Kentucky | +10000 |
| Akron | +50000 |
| S. F. Austin | +50000 |
| Morgan State | +150000 |
| Radford | +250000 |
West Region
Thu 3/19 12:00PM (EST)[/th]
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You realize those "experts" compared Deshawn Stevenson to Michael Jordan, Dwight Howard to Kwame Brown, Adam Morrison to Larry Bird,etc. right?
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Exactly why I said "Experts"
But they should have known better to compare high school players to NBA Greats.
They have got 10 times better since those predictions.
But they should have known better to compare high school players to NBA Greats.
They have got 10 times better since those predictions.
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and nbadraft.net has teague going behind Jennings actually
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This sounds strange comin from me...
But is Carolina undervalued to most people this year?
I see less people taking them this year than last year.
Everyone says "oh they can beat, they have a weakness(es)"
Who doesn't???
Fact is with a healthy Lawson They are the best team....still beatable....but they'd still be the best.
But is Carolina undervalued to most people this year?
I see less people taking them this year than last year.
Everyone says "oh they can beat, they have a weakness(es)"
Who doesn't???
Fact is with a healthy Lawson They are the best team....still beatable....but they'd still be the best.
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Truth be told I think thats the thing thats bothering me the the most so far. Everybody expecting them to be bounced early, I need everybody to be on theirpenis so they can be arrogant and lose instead of having this underdog mentality
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they're not as deep as last year and they STILL don't defend well.
on their best day i would take Pitt over anyone, including a UNC with a healthy Lawson.
but thats just my opinion.
