Official 2012 Boxing Thread: JMM/Manny IV - FOTY.

20 pounds overweight and you cant get a KO??
This better be the last time I see this bum on HBO.

Im diggin the sportsmanship tho.
 
Man, I don't wanna get hyped off ONE performance but...

THIS Golovkin beats Martinez, IMO.

Power in both hands, good body work, and reach...
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And we all know Martinez can get touched easily...just never by someone with enough power to do damage.
 
 
Dog, Golovkin was the real deal man. HEAVY hands. Dude seems mad tough. I can't wait to see this guy fight again.
 
Weekend wrap up.

A roundup of the past week's notable boxing results from around the world:


Saturday at Verona, N.Y.

Gennady Golovkin TKO5 Grzegorz Proksa
Retains a middleweight title
Records: Golovkin (24-0, 21 KOs); Proksa (28-2, 21 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: If there is ever any question about what a fighter means when he says he wants to make a statement in a particular fight, just roll the video of this bout, because Golovkin made exactly the massive statement that he wanted to make -- that he is a force to be reckoned with in the middleweight division. With this awesome performance, Golovkin became an overnight sensation as he made his American and HBO debuts. He could not have been more impressive as he absolutely destroyed Proksa, the European champion and a solid fringe top-10 contender. Golovkin, 30, is known to the hard-core Fight Freaks, but this was his coming-out party. He won a 2004 Olympic silver medal for Kazakhstan and fought mainly in Germany, where he now lives, since turning pro in 2006. But Golovkin wanted nothing more than to fight in the United States on HBO, and that finally was lined up by Tom Loeffler of K2 Promotions, the company owned by heavyweight champion brothers Wladimir and Vitali Klitschko.

Originally, Golovkin was supposed to face Dmitry Pirog, a top-10 middleweight who had been stripped of an alphabet title for accepting the fight. But Pirog ruptured a disc in his back training for the fight and pulled out about a month ago. That opened the door for Proksa, 27, a native of Poland living in England, who had opened a lot of eyes in October 2011 by stopping former world titleholder Sebastian Sylvester in the third round of a European title fight and sending him into retirement.

Proksa figured to give Golovkin at least some competition. He's quick, he's a southpaw, he has good power and he has a tricky style in the same vein as middleweight champ Sergio Martinez. Although he landed a few decent shots, Golovkin walked through them and hunted him down, firing tremendous punches with both hands and abusing Proksa to the body. All told, Golovkin, who made the fifth defense of his belt, scored three knockdowns before the fight was stopped. He knocked Proksa down with a left hand in the final 30 seconds of the first round, dropped him again with another left hand and gave him a bloody nose in the fourth round, and floored him face-first with a series of shots in the fifth round, including a big right hand and finishing left hook. Proksa made it to his feet, but he was in no shape to go on, and referee Charlie Fitch stopped it at 1 minute, 11 seconds.

You can count on seeing Golovkin back on HBO, hopefully before the end of the year. The issue is going to be finding opponents willing to face such a monster. Golovkin's dream is to fight the winner of the Sept. 15 showdown between legit champ Martinez and titlist Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., although that seems unlikely anytime soon, especially if Chavez wins. Golovkin is also the mandatory challenger for new unified titlist Daniel Geale (the WBA's so-called "super" titleholder), and the WBA ruled recently that the fight is due by the end of the year. Geale-Golovkin is a very attractive fight, but it remains to be seen if it can be made, and if it can be, where would it take place? But whomever Golovkin fights next, let's hope he is back in the ring quickly. Surely HBO will want to put him on again.

Sergiy Dzinziruk D12 Jonathan Gonzalez
Junior middleweights
Scores: 114-114, 115-113 Dzinziruk, 117-111 Gonzalez
Records: Dzinziruk (36-1-1, 24 KOs); Gonzalez (15-0-1, 13 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: This fight stunk on paper and it was worse in the ring. It was one of the final remnants of former HBO Sports president Ross Greenburg's tenure. Even though he was forced to resign last summer, you can thank him for the fight since it was Greenburg who made a bad deal that promised Dzinziruk, a former junior middleweight titlist, a return fight on HBO no matter what happened in his middleweight title shot against Sergio Martinez in March 2011. Martinez dropped him five times in an utterly one-sided eighth-round knockout and Dzinziruk, 36, of Ukraine, had not fought since. But at least Dzinziruk, a southpaw who is still undefeated at 154 pounds, was a professional and came in shape, even if he looked rusty from an 18-month layoff. The reason the fight was so horrible was mainly because of the lethargic and apparently disinterested Gonzalez, a prospect (now suspect) who killed his chances of another meaningful fight anytime soon and destroyed the opportunity of a lifetime in his HBO debut. Who wants to see him again? Who would trust him to honor his contract? He crushed his own career by showing up not just a little bit over the contract limit of 154 pounds, but by missing weight by nine -- yes, nine! -- pounds.

According to one of Gonzalez's disgusted handlers, he showed up in upstate New York on Wednesday at 171 pounds. Gonzalez, 23, of Puerto Rico, was down to 169 on Thursday. After a lengthy sauna session before the weigh-in on Friday, he got down to 163, still way over for the weigh-in. At least the Gonzalez team had the decency to let the Dzinziruk team know that Gonzalez was overweight, so Dzinziruk did not cut all the way down to 154 and came in at 156. The camps agreed that the fight would go on (unfortunately) as long as Gonzalez was not more than 166 pounds at a Saturday morning weight-check; he was 165. He also forfeited $60,000 of his $125,000 purse. So the fight went on as scheduled and everyone who watched paid the price.

Dzinziruk, who rehydrated to 162 on fight night and was still spotting Gonzalez 10 pounds because he had rehydrated all the way up 172, doesn't throw a lot of punches and is always looking to land the perfect shot. So he has never made really good fights despite his technical ability. But Gonzalez, who typically presses the action, mainly threw one punch at a time through 12 boring rounds. Gonzalez was by far the heavier puncher, but he did not do enough and let Dzinziruk stay in the fight, which was apparent by the final CompuBox stats, which showed that Gonzalez landed 170 of 621 punches (27 percent) while Dzinziruk connected on 116 of 610 blows (27 percent). Gonzalez had seemed to open a decent lead, but he fought lazily and with zero passion. The result was a split draw in a fight nobody deserved to win and nobody should have had to watch.



Saturday at Oberhausen, Germany

Daniel Geale W12 Felix Sturm
Unifies two middleweight titles
Scores: 116-112 (twice) Geale, 116-112 Sturm
Records: Geale (28-1, 15 KOs); Sturm (37-3-2, 16 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: When the title unification fight was made between Australia's Geale and Germany's Sturm, many skeptics took the same view: It would probably be a darn good fight and that no matter what happened, short of a knockout, Sturm would get the hometown decision, as he has gotten before. It's hard -- very hard -- for a road fighter to win in Germany. But now Geale, 31, has the ultra-rare distinction of not only winning a world title fight by decision against a German in Germany -- he has done it twice. The first time was in May 2011, when Geale won a split decision against Sebastian Sylvester. He made two defenses before upending Sturm, 33, to unify belts.

Geale and Sturm, whose third title reign ended in his 13th defense, put on an excellent display in a thoroughly entertaining battle that featured a lot of good two-way action, as well as skillful boxing. Geale, who suffered a small cut in the second round, was very active but not as accurate as Sturm, although Geale seemed to stun Sturm several times and also battered his body. Sturm worked at a slower pace, but had his jab working well for most of the fight. There were a lot of really close rounds that could have gone either way and both fighters seemed to sense that, given how hard they were fighting down the stretch. But with so many tight rounds, that is why the scores are so divergent between the two judges who gave it to Geale and the one who had it for Sturm, who was classy in defeat and did not complain about the scoring, although the fight really could have gone either way. Geale now owes a mandatory defense to second-tier titlist Gennady Golovkin before the end of the year. Whether that fight is made remains to be seen, but it would be a great one. The nice thing is that the middleweight division is hot right now and there are some very interesting fights to be made, and Geale will be part of them. He is promoted by American Gary Shaw, who might want to bring him to the United States. But Geale could also defend at home, where his star is on the rise after this big win.

Ruslan Chagaev TKO7 Werner Kreiskott
Heavyweights
Records: Chagaev (30-2-1, 19 KOs); Kreiskott (12-19-1, 8 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Chagaev, 33, a former world titleholder, stayed busy with an easy win against German opponent Kreiskott, 33. Chagaev probably has another payday or two coming his way as it would seem likely that he looms as an opponent for one of the younger rising contenders in the division, such as Tyson Fury or David Price. Chagaev, a southpaw from Uzbekistan who lives in Germany, had a little swelling over his right eye but had no other issues. He scored two knockdowns in the fifth round -- a left hand to the head and a left to the body -- and then ended the fight with another clean knockdown on a straight left hand moments into the seventh round. Kreiskott jumped right back up, but referee Arnold Golger immediately waived it off, believing Kreiskott had taken too much punishment during the fight. The fight was Chagaev's first since parting ways with longtime promoter Universum to go with main event fighter Felix Sturm's company. He won his third fight in a row against a low-level opponent since losing a unanimous decision to Alexander Povetkin for a vacant second-tier title in August 2011.



Saturday at Guasave, Mexico

Mario Rodriguez KO7 Nkosinathi Joyi
Wins a strawweight title
Records: Rodriguez (15-6, 11 KOs); Joyi (22-1, 15 KOs)

Rafael's remarks: Nice little upset here for the unheralded Rodriguez, 23, who got the title opportunity in his hometown. In August 2010, he had a title shot in his hometown but lost a unanimous decision to Donnie Nietes, but since then, Rodriguez is 5-0-1 and now claims one of the 105-pound world titles. Joyi, 29, was making his third title defense and fighting outside of his native South Africa for the first time in the Fox Deportes main event. Joyi looked like he was more or less outclassing Rodriguez in the early going but Rodriguez was hanging around and making it interesting. They were swapping punches at a pretty good pace in the seventh round when Rodriguez began to land very solid shots. Eventually, Joyi, a southpaw, was in retreat and Rodriguez cracked him with a left uppercut followed by a left on top of the head. Joyi was in trouble and after one more shot, a decent right hand, he went down to a knee and took the full count while resting with one arm on the ring ropes with 53 seconds left in the round. It set off a wild celebration in the ring and in the arena as Rodriguez had pulled the upset.



Saturday at Los Mochis, Mexico

Miguel Angel "Mikey" Garcia KO2 Mauricio Pastrana
Junior lightweights
Records: Garcia (29-0, 25 KOs); Pastrana (35-17-2, 23 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: This was about as bad of a mismatch as it gets in boxing. Garcia, 24, of Oxnard, Calif., is one of the top featherweights in the world and getting prepared for a title shot on a date to be determined this fall against Orlando Salido. Pastrana, 39, of Colombia, is a completely shot fighter who looks like he is going to suffer a serious injury in the ring if somebody doesn't stop him immediately. He held a junior flyweight title from 1997 to 1998 and was fighting way over his most effective weight. Garcia barely needed to break a sweat to get rid of him. Typically a slow starter, Garcia basically went through the motions in the first round just to see what he had in front of him. It wasn't much and in the second round, with the first legitimate shot of the fight, Garcia connected with a straight right hand to Pastrana's face and he crumpled, grabbing on to the ring ropes to help break his fall on his rear end in the corner. Pastrana had no interest in continuing and was counted out at 1 minute, 5 seconds in a fight broadcast on Azteca America. Garcia gets better work in the gym but his handlers wanted him to at least get in a couple of rounds and feel what it's like to walk to the ring after being out of action since a March knockout of Bernabe Concepcion while awaiting his title shot to be finalized. It should be soon and Salido surely will give him a lot better fight than the hapless Pastrana, who lost his seventh fight in a row and dropped to 1-10 in his last 11 fights dating to 2007. He should not be fighting anymore.

Saturday at Panama City, Panama

Moruti Mthalane TKO8 Ricardo Nunez
Retains a flyweight title
Records: Mthalane (29-2, 20 KOs); Nunez (24-3, 20 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Mthalane, 29, of South Africa, took the show on the road to Nunez's hometown to make his fourth title defense in somewhat dramatic fashion. Mthalane's previous road trips included a sixth-round TKO loss to then-flyweight titlist Nonito Donaire in Las Vegas in 2008 and a seventh-round knockout in his last fight, a title defense in October in Italy against Andrea Sarritzu. Mthalane started quickly by scoring a first-round knockdown, but Nunez, 24, of Panama, sent a scare into Mthalane when he deposited him on the mat with a flurry late in the third round. Mthalane rallied, however, to score a big knockout at 2 minutes, 41 seconds of the eighth round, pounding Nunez into the canvas with a series of shots that caused referee Kenny Chevalier to call off the fight immediately as medical personnel rushed to Nunez's assistance.

Friday at Carolina, Puerto Rico

Thomas Dulorme W10 Yoryi Estrella
Welterweights
Scores: 100-90 (three times) Dulorme
Records: Dulorme (16-0, 12 KOs); Estrella (10-8, 7 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Dulorme, 22, of Puerto Rico, is one of the hottest prospects in boxing and just about ready to make his debut on HBO. But before that, Dulorme remained active with his third fight of 2012 by fighting in his hometown against Estrella and pitching the clean shutout. Although Estrella failed to make the contracted weight, Dulorme accepted the fight anyway, especially since he was such an obvious and overwhelming favorite. "My opponent came into the fight overweight, but we went after the victory without caring how many pounds he had over the limit," Dulorme said. "It's no excuse as I accepted the fight because I will fight anybody being that I am a warrior." With Dulorme safely through this fight, he is scheduled to return Oct. 27 for his HBO debut on a prospect-themed edition of "Boxing After Dark." His opponent is not set, but it is likely to be Luis Carlos Abregu (32-1, 26 KOs), 28, of Argentina. He's a crowd-pleasing fringe contender who has won three fights in a row since dropping a 12-round decision to Timothy Bradley Jr., who had moved up to welterweight to test out the division in July 2010. Estrella, 32, of the Dominican Republic, dropped to 0-6-1 in his last seven bouts.

Jose Pedraza W8 Jose Valderrama
Junior lightweights
Scores: 80-71 (three times) Pedraza
Records: Pedraza (10-0, 6 KOs); Valderrama (4-2, 2 KOs)
Rafael's remarks: Pedraza, 23, was a 2008 Puerto Rican Olympian, a 2009 silver medalist at the amateur world championships and was one of the most heralded Puerto Rican prospects since Miguel Cotto turned pro following the 2000 Olympics. Pedraza turned pro in early 2011 and is gaining his requisite pro experience. Valderrama, who is also from Puerto Rico, was no match as he lost his second fight in a row. Pedraza scored the easy shutout, punctuated by a left hook to the chin that dropped Valderrama in the sixth round.
 
Any idea how long it takes for fights to show up on hbogo?
I want to watch the GGG fight again.
 
Cotto/Trout doesn't do much for me.
Bailey out of the Devon fight
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thats the kind of fight cotto needs to take after the floyd fight tho

devon and his trainer are going at baileys NECK
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looks like pacman VS jmm is about to be offical
 
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ds Nahhh Adrien Broner didnt do that


Nah man nahhhh
 
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By Rick Reeno

In a follow-up to an earlier article on BoxingScene.com, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer cleared the air on the December 8th conflict at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

A few days ago, Top Rank submitted a written request to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, alerting the governing body of their intentions to stage an event, headlined by eight division world champion Manny Pacquiao, on December 8th at the MGM Grand.

Last week, Schaefer advised BoxingScene that his company placed a hold on the MGM Grand, for December 8th, several months ago.

There appears to be a resolution.

Schaefer told BoxingScene on Thursday that he plans to step aside - if Pacquiao's return is finalized for December 8th.

However, he made it clear that if Top Rank plans to stage an event "with anyone not named Pacquiao" - then Golden Boy fully intends to move forward with a pay-per-view event on December 8th at the MGM Grand.

"If in fact Manny Pacquiao is going to fight on December 8th, then I'm not going to go and stand in Manny's way so he can't fight on December 8th - by insisting on keeping the date and so on. This is Manny Pacquiao, he's one of the best fighters and I'm not going to go and do that. Out of respect to Manhy Pacquiao and out of respect to the MGM, who know, and have confirmed - and I know they told [Top Rank CEO] Bob [Arum] and [NSAC Head] Keith [Kizer] and whoever else wants to know - that in fact we were holding this date for a long time because Pacquiao was going to fight on November the 10th and we were holding December 8th for a pay-per-view.," Schaefer told BoxingScene.com.

"We were holding December 8th with the pay-per-view industry, no question about it. But, if Manny Pacquiao is going to fight, out of respect to Manny Pacquiao, and out of respect to the MGM, he should have that date. But, if Manny Pacquiao is not going to fight - I fully intend to have a pay-per-view event and a fight that night."

MARES-MORENO MOVES AGAIN

The super bantamweight clash between WBC champion Abner Mares (24-1, 13KOs), and challenger Anselmo Moreno (33-1-1, 12KOs), is on the move again.

It was originally scheduled for October 13th at the Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas. To avoid a programming conflict with HBO's doubleheader, featuring Nonito Donaire vs. Toshiaki Nishioka and Brandon Rios vs. Mike Alvarado, Golden Boy moved the card to October 27th at the Honda Center in Anaheim.

Because Pacquiao's potential return has been moved from November 10th to December 8th - Schaefer felt it was in the best interest of the event to move it to the November 10th date.

The card will now shift to the Staples Center in Los Angeles - with a Showtime televised tripleheader in the works.

Golden Boy is currently trying to finalize two other fights, which are potentially going to feature heavyweight contender Chrus Arreola (35-2, 30Kos) and the returning junior middleweight puncher Alfredo Angulo (20-2, 17KOs).

"We basically went with October 27th because back then it was November 10th that Pacquiao was going to fight. That obviously has changed. I've been holding Staples Center for November 10th for quite a while. I sort of anticipated that to happen [Pacquiao's date moving], to tell you the truth, and I was right. Therefore now we moved the show to November the 10th. It's better programming because we already have a huge event on October 20th. It's better to have some time in-between and November the 10th is the perfect date at Staples Center," Schaefer said.

"Abner Mares is a great young talent and a world champion and I'm sure Los Angeles will come out and support him. We are looking at potentially adding Chris Arreola, and the return of Alfredo Angulo on the card as well. It will be a terrific card."

ALEXANDER-BAILEY MAY CREATE HUGE QUADRUPLEHEADER

This coming Saturday in Las Vegas, Randall Bailey (43-7, 37KOs) was scheduled to defend his IBF welterweight title against Devon Alexander (23-1, 13KOs). Last week, Bailey suffered a back injury in training and the fight was postponed.

Schaefer tells BoxingScene that he's in the process of attempting to finalize that fight for Golden Boy's big event at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York.

The addition of Bailey-Alexander would transform the event into a Showtime televised quadrupleheader - with four championship fights.

In the main event, Danny Garcia defends his WBA/WBC 140-pounds titles against Erik Morales in a rematch of their March encounter. In the co-feature, Paulie Malignaggi makes the first defense of his WBA welterweight crown against Pablo Cesar Cano - and undefeated Peter Quillin will challenge WBO middleweight champion Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam.

"I'm currently finalizing that. What I think the perfect spot would be, because it would create a boxing extravaganza that we have not seen in a long time - is to put it as a quadrupleheader on October 20th at Barclay's opening. Then you would have four world championships [on the line] in one night, on a non-pay-per-view card. I don't remember when that's happened the last time, but I'm sure it was a long time ago. It will be a fitting place and a fitting celebration for Brooklyn to really bring big time boxing back to Brooklyn. That's what I'm working towards and I hope to have some updates, maybe as early as tomorrow," Schaefer said.
 
This guy Broner is a lame
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Regarding tomorrow's bout between Ward. vs. Dawson,

I hope we get to see "Bad" Chad Dawson in the ring tomorrow night. This ninja has let me down on numerous occasions especially the Pascal fight. He has all the tools to be elite but he gets to passive at times and lacks that killer instinct. If he wants to give himself a chance to beat SOG, he's gonna have to be a Chad Dawson that we are not used to.

Praying that it will be a great fight and not the dud that Bradley vs. Alexander was.
 
I think Ward will frustrate him too much and throw him off his game. Hoping for a different outcome though.
 
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