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Okafor wasn't doing the things Davis is doing at 19.
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If he never develops the mindstate of a 4 in the NBA (whatever that means), he'll still be an Elite defender that can change the game on the defensive end. He'll average double digit rebounds and be able to score 10 a game at least on offensive board/putbacks. Pair him with a PG that thrives in pick and roll situations then it becomes even more dangerous. And that's just if he never develops the "mindstate of a 4 in the NBA."
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I'm concerned with what Anthony Davis will be doing when he's 20 and 21. What he's doing at 19 is great, but I just don't see things the way you do.
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Listen, I hope you're all right because I know I'll be watching him for at least the next 4 years. Trust me, if he's great, I'll be the first to eat the crow.
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Hornets draft Davis and Lillard/Marshall and are ecstatic
Bobcats HAVE to trade #2... They have to progress quicker
Bobcats HAVE to trade #2... They have to progress quicker
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Jordan taking Barnes? Wouldn't be shocked
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Originally Posted by FinallyFamous
Jordan taking Barnes? Wouldn't be shocked
-_-Pretty sure Rivers got a promise from New orleans. Atleast that was the speculation.MKG against Beal tomorrow in Charlotte. Interested to see how that goes.
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Originally Posted by woody2626
Originally Posted by FinallyFamous
Jordan taking Barnes? Wouldn't be shocked
-_-Pretty sure Rivers got a promise from New orleans. Atleast that was the speculation.MKG against Beal tomorrow in Charlotte. Interested to see how that goes.
Rivers and NO? They going to move Gordon?
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Rivers & Davis
I like it... Total genius move potentially
I like it... Total genius move potentially
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Please...MKG in DC.
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Man, you guys can slander AD all you want but to say he doesn't have the "mindstate of a 4" is ridiculous and honestly means you either haven't seen him play much or don't pay attention. Davis literally does everything you want a big man to do. Don't get caught up in this "guard his entire life" thing. All it means is he's versatile enough to pass, dribble and shoot well. He takes pride on defense. Defends the rim. Shuts down the pick and roll. Blocks shots and keeps them inbounds. Crashes the glass on offense and defense. Never takes a play off.Originally Posted by doyung9
Because I feel like they'll do something STUPID at #10 after picking Davis.Almost like, 'we got him, let's draft marquis teague' ... who's not bad, but not the #10 pick.
My worry is that like you said, he was 6'3 two years ago. Everyone's been feeding me the "he's been a guard his entire life, he can shoot, dribble etc."... but what if he never truly develops the mindstate of a 4 in the NBA? This isn't gonna be like college. Reggie Evans is not going to move when Anthony Davis starts his backdown.
I get it, I get it. The potential (which is overrated in all forms of drafting in all sports) is through the roof. Could be the next KG, DIRK, DURANT (continue list of 6'10 athletes who can shoot, dribble, lead). But what if he's the next Emeka Okafor?
That's like saying KG doesn't have the mindstate of a 4 because he could shoot and pass.
The issue of AD's weight is way overblown. He has wide shoulders and a good frame for putting on weight. Also, as important as being muscular is, being mentally tough enough to battle is probably more important. He played against plenty of heavy guys in college and never backed down. He might struggle to stay out of foul trouble but I don't see how this kid can be a bust.
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I don't understand the Davis doubt. Reminds me of last year...
Can't wait to see Barnes and Sullinger fail though
Can't wait to see Barnes and Sullinger fail though
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mind-state of a 4? Anthony Davis almost certainly will be playing center, and will do so incredibly well.
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he's up for a new contract, and he prob won't get what he wants...Originally Posted by RetroBaller
Originally Posted by woody2626
Originally Posted by FinallyFamous
Jordan taking Barnes? Wouldn't be shocked
-_-Pretty sure Rivers got a promise from New orleans. Atleast that was the speculation.MKG against Beal tomorrow in Charlotte. Interested to see how that goes.
Rivers and NO? They going to move Gordon?
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I think he'll get around what he wants, the question really is whether or not he actually wants to stay in NO.
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Why do Cavs want Barnes so much, why can't we just try to get Beal SMH
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While they do like him, it could be smokescreens for now.
I have a feeling they'll attempt to trade for the #2 pick to snatch MKG though.
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So Davis will play 5 in the nba?
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Quit it with the smokescreens
Barnes > Beal IN THE CAVS MINDS!
They also really like MKG, so let's see if they try and trade up. Just don't want them give up too much.
Barnes > Beal IN THE CAVS MINDS!
They also really like MKG, so let's see if they try and trade up. Just don't want them give up too much.
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Duke fans tried to tell boys Kyrie was the goods until we were blue in the face... Had boys disrespecting talking about Brandon Knight being better than him
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Originally Posted by mgrand15
Man, you guys can slander AD all you want but to say he doesn't have the "mindstate of a 4" is ridiculous and honestly means you either haven't seen him play much or don't pay attention. Davis literally does everything you want a big man to do. Don't get caught up in this "guard his entire life" thing. All it means is he's versatile enough to pass, dribble and shoot well. He takes pride on defense. Defends the rim. Shuts down the pick and roll. Blocks shots and keeps them inbounds. Crashes the glass on offense and defense. Never takes a play off.Originally Posted by doyung9
Because I feel like they'll do something STUPID at #10 after picking Davis.Almost like, 'we got him, let's draft marquis teague' ... who's not bad, but not the #10 pick.
My worry is that like you said, he was 6'3 two years ago. Everyone's been feeding me the "he's been a guard his entire life, he can shoot, dribble etc."... but what if he never truly develops the mindstate of a 4 in the NBA? This isn't gonna be like college. Reggie Evans is not going to move when Anthony Davis starts his backdown.
I get it, I get it. The potential (which is overrated in all forms of drafting in all sports) is through the roof. Could be the next KG, DIRK, DURANT (continue list of 6'10 athletes who can shoot, dribble, lead). But what if he's the next Emeka Okafor?
That's like saying KG doesn't have the mindstate of a 4 because he could shoot and pass.
The issue of AD's weight is way overblown. He has wide shoulders and a good frame for putting on weight. Also, as important as being muscular is, being mentally tough enough to battle is probably more important. He played against plenty of heavy guys in college and never backed down. He might struggle to stay out of foul trouble but I don't see how this kid can be a bust.
Though I agree that his frame is capable of adding muscle and some mass, I do believe that the bigger 4's will rough him up like the Ratliff kid from Mizzo. He will mature just fine though, that "mindset of a 4" or whatever the hell that means won't prove much of an issue for him.
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Duke fans tried to tell boys Kyrie was the goods until we were blue in the face... Had boys disrespecting talking about Brandon Knight being better than him
Take Derrick Williams at 1, and Knight at 4 !!!!!
Kyrie isn't ready! Overrated!!!
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*raises hand*
I doubted Kyrie... boy is cold
In past years:
Guys who I have been low on-
Kyrie
Cousins
Westbrook
Thabeet
Eric Gordon
Guys who I have been high on-
Derrick Williams
Evan Turner
Shumpert
Harden
Jordan Hill
Who wins?
I doubted Kyrie... boy is cold
In past years:
Guys who I have been low on-
Kyrie
Cousins
Westbrook
Thabeet
Eric Gordon
Guys who I have been high on-
Derrick Williams
Evan Turner
Shumpert
Harden
Jordan Hill
Who wins?
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