Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[Bert.]

Danny Green byke?

Havent heard this name in years

He's still in the L?

 

[P C H]

Really? Harden just completed his 7th last year and he's in 8th now. IT2 will be in his 8th next year just like Beard. 

EDIT: He is eligible

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

Since trading Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett, the Boston Celtics have tried their best to maintain salary cap flexibility. They have signed free agents to short contracts. They have refused to target good (but not quite good enough) players who would have eaten into long-term cap space. They clearly desire a star and don't want other commitments to ruin their chances.



All of that could make things interesting next summer when Isaiah Thomas and Avery Bradley could both be up for contract renegotiations. The situation is complicated, but I'll try to explain as well as I can.



To be clear: I don't know how much Thomas and Bradley would want in a possible renegotiation, and I don't know how much the Celtics would be willing to give. I don't know how Thomas and Bradley would feel about finishing out their current bargain deals if it meant the team could continue chasing big stars.



I do know three things:



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1. Thomas and Bradley both deserve a lot more money. One's an All-Star. The other made the all-defensive team. Both have smaller contracts for next season than Matthew Dellavedova. It's a weird NBA world right now, and most players on old contracts are badly underpaid.



2. The Celtics would love to have maximum cap space next summer when Stephen Curry, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Blake Griffin and Chris Paul could all hit the market along with players like Gordon Hayward, Kyle Lowry and Paul Millsap.



3. The two previous items on this list clash.



Under the current collective bargaining agreement, players can renegotiate four-year or five-year deals after the third anniversary of a signing. A team must have cap space to offer a raise, and pay cuts are not allowed. Why would a team volunteer to pay a player more money when he's already under contract? Doing so can keep a player happy and set up the table for a contract extension. Guys like Thomas and Bradley have little incentive to extend their current deals because they can only make 107.5 percent in the first year of an extension (with 7.5 percent raises after that), but if they simultaneously renegotiate the deal, that 107.5 percent would look a whole lot more attractive. The Houston Rockets used a similar technique to renegotiate-and-extend James Harden, adding years of team control on his contract in return for more money now. The Oklahoma City Thunder would love to use the same strategy with Russell Westbrook. For the Celtics, things are more complicated.



By the time Thomas (July 12, I believe) and Bradley (July 15, I believe) can even consider renegotiations, it's likely most top free agents will have already decided on their next teams. The Celtics could find another way to use their cap space, then turn to Bradley and Thomas with a message similar to, "Sorry, bros, we can't possibly offer you more money now." It's even possible the players would be completely on board with that option. Sure, they would miss out on a cash grab for one year, but they would be playing for a contender (or close to it) with the overwhelming possibility of a substantial raise in free agency the following summer. That wouldn't be the worst situation ever.



On the other hand, the Celtics could irritate Thomas and/or Bradley -- one year before they hit free agency -- by spending all of the extension money elsewhere. Maybe it's the right risk to take. Boston would still be a tough situation for those guys to leave (great coach, tight locker room, fun system, competitive team), but hostility toward management never helps.

Gonna read your spoiler after I type this but IT will be going into his 7th season next year not his 8th. So maybe there's another way around it to get an extension but he won't be eligible for the 8/9 yr one

Maybe I'm wrong going off pure memory lol

EDIT: yeah I knew I wasn't tripping, he's going into his 7th season next year

 

[sooperhooper]

Saw a graphic last night that was pretty interesting, Kyrie was the first pick in the 11 draft and the very last (60th) was.... Lil Zeke

 

[JD617]

Harden has been in the league 2 years longer than IT. Isaiah is only in his 6th season right now.

 

[oldhotdogwater]

BS call

 

[antidope]

Good lord that Isiah Thomas stats

 

[MVP]

 

I was looking at baskeball reference and it had 7 seasons but I forgot Boston and PHO were technically one season. But still he and Bradley are eligible this coming summer to renegotiate their deals (maybe not for the same money amount) but I was just speaking on them getting a significant raise from their bargain deals now. 

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

When Boston Celtics  center Tyler Zeller  agreed to a two-year, $16 million contract extension on Saturday, it made him the fourth-highest paid player on the roster. With a skyrocketing cap, role players inked deals this summer that will pay them more than pacts inked by All-Star-caliber players in recent seasons.

That's left some wondering if there will be any lingering resentment in NBA locker rooms because of salary disparity. Zeller, who logged 25 DNPs last season, is scheduled to earn more than the likes of All-Star point guard Isaiah Thomas  ($6.6 million) and starting forward Jae Crowder  ($6.3 million).

For their part, both Thomas and Crowder have stressed recently that they are not angry with players cashing in on a lucrative market, and eagerly await their chance at a big payday.
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A look at Boston's top 15 salaries:
[table][tr][th=""]PLAYER[/th][th=""]2016-17 SALARY[/th][/tr][tr][td]Al Horford[/td][td]$26.5 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Amir Johnson[/td][td]$12 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Avery Bradley[/td][td]$8.3 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Tyler Zeller[/td][td]$8 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Isaiah Thomas[/td][td]$6.6 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jae Crowder[/td][td]$6.3 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jonas Jerebko[/td][td]$5 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jaylen Brown[/td][td]$4.7 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Marcus Smart[/td][td]$3.6 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Kelly Olynyk[/td][td]$3.1 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Terry Rozier[/td][td]$1.9 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]James Young[/td][td]$1.8 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Gerald Green[/td][td]$1.4 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]Jordan Mickey[/td][td]$1.2 million[/td][/tr][tr][td]R.J. Hunter[/td][td]$1.2 million[/td][/tr][/table]
"Everybody go get all you can get, I guess. It's out there for everybody. Now we don't have to go and play baseball, we can go get those type of deals in basketball," Thomas said this month while visiting the Celtics at summer league. "I mean, it's unbelievable to see even certain guys get what they get, but at the end of the day, if it's out there, go get it."

Added Crowder: "It’s an exciting time to be an NBA player. That’s all I can say. I think all the older guys I talk to, my OGs -- Elton Brand  and Vince Carter  -- they were like, 'Five more years could have been ideal.' It’s a great time to be in basketball."

How might bloated contracts for role players impact NBA locker rooms? Thomas said that remains to be seen, but believes increased salaries might leave those role players yearning for roles that match the price tag.

"Hopefully it doesn't mess up any locker rooms, hopefully it doesn't mess up ours, but it can," said Thomas. "Definitely if you get paid that much, you feel like you should have a bigger role than whatever that role is. But hopefully for the betterment of the team and the guys we have around the locker room, I don't think it's going to happen."

Crowder, who signed a five-year, $35 million deal last summer, is already eyeing the possibility of renegotiating his deal in the summer of 2018 (deals longer than four years can be renegotiated after the third anniversary of the signing if a team is under the salary cap). For now, he's fine with others cashing in.

"I make $7 million per year," said Crowder. "I’m not going to be mad at a guy making $10 million. We’re still millionaires. I got another contract coming up soon. Four [more years on a five-year deal], I get to redo it -- three, actually [if they explore extensions]. I’m not worried. Money -- why I am mad? I make millions of dollars. That would be selfish of me. Why would I be mad about that?"
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Thomas signed a four-year, $27 million contract in July 2014, making him eligible to renegotiate after this summer (the same time that Avery Bradley  will reach the third anniversary of his four-year, $32 million deal).

"They better bring out the Brinks truck," joked Thomas in the aftermath of the Celtics signing Al Horford  to a four-year, $113 million contract. "They’re paying everybody else, I’ve got to get something. I’m trying not to worry about it, but it’s out there. And I’m going to just continue to be myself and play. And hopefully that takes care of everything else."

When considering Zeller's contract, it's also worth remembering that, by agreeing to a nonguaranteed second season, Zeller is avoiding a no-trade clause that would have triggered if he signed a one-year deal, and providing the Celtics with a valuable asset that could aid them in maintaining salary-cap flexibility or utilize Zeller in a trade. Given that Zeller was also diligent about staying ready last season despite a diminished role in an overcrowded frontcourt, he is being rewarded, in part, for the sacrifices he's made to help the team last season and into the future.

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/cel...-peace-with-soaring-salaries-for-role-players

 

[P C H]

How much can he renegotiate for?

 

[MVP]

Westbrook and Harden both got about a 10 million raise per year so I'm assuming in that same ballpark, but not sure how exactly the new CBA numbers affect them.

 

[trueprada]

Those three-point lines may or may not be 2 Chainz

 

[HOU$TON]

Rockets [emoji]128640[/emoji]

 

[$tacy]

IT got that mamba blood. 52 and 0 assist... #kobe

 

[bronconation24]

Isaiah Thomas is the opposite of a point guard

 

[friscostylez]

Celtics need to find a way to pair Cousins with IT2 and Horford

although it never clicked, I wish Sacramento kept pizza guy and cuzzelini together :\

i can't stand collison on the strength of him starting ahead of westbrook at UCLA and preventing us from seeing beastbrook go off in college

westbrook's freshmen year? he wasn't that good then tho lol. in his sophomore year, they started together.

 

[friscostylez]

Isaiah Thomas is the opposite of a point guard

i agree. he's a point god

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Bazemore on seeing Spot Mins at the 1

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[DCAllAfrican]

WINDY CITY BULLS ACQUIRE WILL BYNUM - Windy City Bulls http://windycity.dleague.nba.com/news/windy-city-bulls-acquire-will-bynum/

 

[Arthur Shelby]

 

[starboy]

 
Kings already had IT2 and Cousins 

And Whiteside. All at the same time. 

 

[Peep Game]

Oh wow I forgot IT2 was on the Kings feels like ages ago

 

[starboy]

Terrance Williams, Jimmer Fredette, JJ Hickson, and Donte Greene were also on that team. Talk about a roster full of unreached potential. 

 

[Bert.]

I was such s big Terrance Williams fan

 

[iamjusayn]

Man! Ant Davis to the thunder would put them right back! [emoji]128064[/emoji]

 

[friscostylez]

Terrance Williams, Jimmer Fredette, JJ Hickson, and Donte Greene were also on that team. Talk about a roster full of unreached potential. 

How u leave out Tyreke Evans b?

 

[ballinsam23]

Cant even blame the Kings. All those guys were severely hyped coming out of college.