Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[mgrand15]

Y'all are kidding about all this CJ talk right. The guy averaging 23 on elite efficiency in his 4th year? Gonna trade him for a younger guy? This back court was about to tie the Clipper series 2-2 even before everyone got hurt.

 

[bhzmafia14]

Y'all are kidding about all this CJ talk right. The guy averaging 23 on elite efficiency in his 4th year? Gonna trade him for a younger guy? This back court was about to tie the Clipper series 2-2 even before everyone got hurt.

I mean they have 2 terrible defenders in the backcourt. The splash bros 2.0 thing is cool, but they're completely dismissing the other side of the basketball. If you want exciting basketball with a lot of 3's and no defense, so be it. I just think they could be much greater with a more balanced lineup.

People were telling me their team last season was better than the one in the previous year with Wes Matthews and LMA. That's simply not true. Guarantee you if Wes Matthews doesn't get hurt, he's their starting two guard right now anyways. Maybe CJ becomes their 6th man or they trade him away in favor of some size up front.

 

[nick.]

The NT Jinx is undefeated so Portland's winning by 20 tonight. Dame/CJ combine for 65.

Thanks guys

 

[ill steelo]

Noel couldn't yield a top pick and in an awful draft.
Noel has a history of knee injuries.
Noel's defense numbers weren't great according to synergy.

Him not being the top pick says more about the GMs than Noel.

Knee concerns are valid, though this latest bout is essentially him pulling a Shaq & getting healed on company time. Philly didn't want him to do the surgery, especially so late.

His raw blocks & steals this early put him in rare company, Philly defended better when he was out there, DPBMs of 4.5 & 3.4 his first 2 years, people shot 48% at the rim against him which was comparable to Whiteside, Marc Gasol & Steven Adams. Solid rebound rate. All at 21.

I mean if CJ is bricking, what else is he giving me? His assists are on par with his fouls & turnovers & he offers little defensive value.

 

[a-friend]

This has the potential to be one of the best NBA seasons in a while. The level of talent displayed so far is stupid. You legitimately have your top 10 guys playing like MVP candidates.

All we can hope for is a season without any catastrophic injuries.

Bron
Russ
AD
Beard
CP3
KD
Kawhi
Boogie
Blake
Steph

all are playing stupid

then, you have your

Derozan
Jimmy B
Kemba
Conley
Whitside
Zeke
Embiid
KAT
Alphabet
Wall
Porzingis
Wiggins
Lillard
CJ
Lavine

:x

however, this rookie class (outside of Embiid who really isn't apart of the class) isn't looking too good. you have a few good rotation guys, but no one looks like a surefire star at this point.

Lillard,CJ, Lavine don't belong here for current play.

 

[phar0]

i thought CJ was regarded as a pretty good defender 

 

[addict4sneakers]

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[bhzmafia14]

Three current members of the 50-40-80 shooting club: Kevin Durant, George Hill and … Nik Stauskas.

 

[bballkid11]

Nik.

 

[freeze]

Three current members of the 50-40-80 shooting club: Kevin Durant, George Hill and … Nik Stauskas.

i dont understand. curry not in it?

80 aint ****.

 

[bhzmafia14]

i dont understand. curry not in it?

80 aint ****.

curry 48% from the field right now

 

[ill steelo]

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Year before that his pnr defense was in the "good" range.

iso, sure, he still has room for improvement as he fills out his build, but he has the tools, and aforementioned metrics favor him.

Point being, I think the upside is worth trading CJ for.

 

[xxpizzo]

the sauce 

 

[mgrand15]

I mean they have 2 terrible defenders in the backcourt. The splash bros 2.0 thing is cool, but they're completely dismissing the other side of the basketball. If you want exciting basketball with a lot of 3's and no defense, so be it. I just think they could be much greater with a more balanced lineup.

People were telling me their team last season was better than the one in the previous year with Wes Matthews and LMA. That's simply not true. Guarantee you if Wes Matthews doesn't get hurt, he's their starting two guard right now anyways. Maybe CJ becomes their 6th man or they trade him away in favor of some size up front.

You just need to build a respectable defense around the back court and hope they improve some with time. Plenty of ways to do that. Can't just give up on really good young players cause the fit isn't perfect. It's still good, just not perfect.

 

[Moheezy]

Noel couldn't yield a top pick and in an awful draft.
Noel has a history of knee injuries.
Noel's defense numbers weren't great according to synergy.

Him not being the top pick says more about the GMs than Noel.

Knee concerns are valid, though this latest bout is essentially him pulling a Shaq & getting healed on company time. Philly didn't want him to do the surgery, especially so late.

His raw blocks & steals this early put him in rare company, Philly defended better when he was out there, DPBMs of 4.5 & 3.4 his first 2 years, people shot 48% at the rim against him which was comparable to Whiteside, Marc Gasol & Steven Adams. Solid rebound rate. All at 21.

I mean if CJ is bricking, what else is he giving me? His assists are on par with his fouls & turnovers & he offers little defensive value.

I remember in his rookie year, the Sixers were ranked top 10 defensively wen he was on the court. Noel is a beast and just needs the opportunity to prove it.

 

[ill steelo]

I mean they have 2 terrible defenders in the backcourt. The splash bros 2.0 thing is cool, but they're completely dismissing the other side of the basketball. If you want exciting basketball with a lot of 3's and no defense, so be it. I just think they could be much greater with a more balanced lineup.

People were telling me their team last season was better than the one in the previous year with Wes Matthews and LMA. That's simply not true. Guarantee you if Wes Matthews doesn't get hurt, he's their starting two guard right now anyways. Maybe CJ becomes their 6th man or they trade him away in favor of some size up front.

You just need to build a respectable defense around the back court and hope they improve some with time. Plenty of ways to do that. Can't just give up on really good young players cause the fit isn't perfect. It's still good, just not perfect.

Dumars & Zeke are the only small backcourt to do anything, and Dumars was a great defender on a historically great defense, not merely a good or respectable one.

You also had Stockton & Horny. But both of those guys played D.

 

[pmatic]

Cant even blame the Blazers. Been thinking since the summer they stockpiled all the players for a trade down the road.

 

[starboy]

Dumars & Zeke are the only small backcourt to do anything, and Dumars was a great defender on a historically great defense, not merely a good or respectable one.

You also had Stockton & Horny. But both of those guys played D.

 

[rook]

The Blazers seem to a log jam in the roster with big's if im not mistaken.

I really cant believe they paid turner and Crabbe that type of money when they weren't in a great position to win anything. they overachieved last year and was like ITS LIT.

 

[ill steelo]

How could I forget those 2? good call. Kidd was great for them defensively during that run. Gave them great mins on Kobe & Russ

 

[bhzmafia14]

Kidd's defense (considering he was 37) was stellar during that championship run

Kinda reminds me of what VC is doing right now in a way and how effective he is at 39

 

[rook]

This has the potential to be one of the best NBA seasons in a while. The level of talent displayed so far is stupid. You legitimately have your top 10 guys playing like MVP candidates.

All we can hope for is a season without any catastrophic injuries.

Bron
Russ
AD
Beard
CP3
KD
Kawhi
Boogie
Blake
Steph

all are playing stupid

then, you have your

Derozan
Jimmy B
Kemba
Conley
Whitside
Zeke
Embiid
KAT
Alphabet
Wall
Porzingis
Wiggins
Lillard
CJ
Lavine

:x

however, this rookie class (outside of Embiid who really isn't apart of the class) isn't looking too good. you have a few good rotation guys, but no one looks like a surefire star at this point.

Lillard,CJ, Lavine don't belong here for current play.

maybe not lavine lol but dame for sure

 

[starboy]

Damn it just hit me that Jason Terry plays for Kidd now 

 

[pmatic]

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[bhzmafia14]

They were pretty effective when in the game together

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my favorite backcourt to use during the old nba live days with mashburn at the 3

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