Official FUTURE A1/FBG Thread

[wavycrocket]

So Big Sean just went platinum under RIAA's new certification...which accounts for streams and views. He had 350k sales. Future is right around there with Ds2 at 344K. I'm guessing Ds2 should get a certification sometime soon.

 

[pitman13]

This is the age we live in dudes suck an artist off for a few months & then spit him out and call dudes trash affter they are no longer the hottest thing bubbling underground. I saw this happen to Migos until Future caught fire

No. This has nothing to do with "the age we live in". In hip hop/rap, consistency is a rare thing. We've seen artists in the past have a moment then fizzle out the following year. DMX in 1998. Cash Money in 1999. Nelly in 2000. 50cent in 2003. Wayne in 2008, just to name a few. Reason why Hov is/was heralded during his 7 year run because he remained relevant while delivering quality music year after year. Can Future continue his run in 2016, only time will tell. But after hearing Purple Reign, it's highly doubtful. Just don't blame his fall from grace on bandwagon fans or the current era.

 

[trynafeelmink]

This is in no way a shot at purple reign..... but this track is harder than the entire tape.. and it kind of fits the vibe of PR don't know why it wasn't there





And as far as substance with future... i'll say he's similar to Jeezy (in a lesser sense) where he's not saying anything monumental but he has a way to connect and project certain feelings in the listener that just make you feel the song Alot more than your average artist in this lane

 

[trynafeelmink]

No. This has nothing to do with "the age we live in". In hip hop/rap, consistency is a rare thing. We've seen artists in the past have a moment then fizzle out the following year. DMX in 1998. Cash Money in 1999. Nelly in 2000. 50cent in 2003. Wayne in 2008, just to name a few. Reason why Hov is/was heralded during his 7 year run because he remained relevant while delivering quality music year after year. Can Future continue his run in 2016, only time will tell. But after hearing Purple Reign, it's highly doubtful. Just don't blame his fall from grace on bandwagon fans or the current era.

How can you have a fall from grace within a year??

and as far as the examples you stated

- DMX was making quality **** well after 1998... everything he dropped wasn't going to be classic material but he surely didn't fizzle out for another 3-4 years (AND BEFORE ANYONE CHIMES IN I'M NOT EVEN TALKING COMMERCIAL SUCCESS, SIMPLY QUALITY OF THE MUSIC AND IMPACT ON THE GAME)

- Wayne was putting out quality music from C1 - no cielings, was everything he dropped in that period fire, absolutely not but he was def far from trash.
- Nelly/ Cash Money i was never too deep into their sound to really agree or disagree
- 50's run all started from him KILLING every mixtape he did about a year or two prior to GRODT & he continued on a steady pace until Curtis era

My point is that rap these days are all about extremes & A lot of that simply comes from people loving hype.. i see artist who will be on fire one second, but as soon as someone else comes along, suddenly fans act as if everything the other artist does is complete trash.

This is all based on opinions, but with that said i don't see how someone can say 56 nights is Amazing project & then say PR is trash... not as good, sure.... but complete trash? Future has fallen off? *****

Hell This isn't evven the first time this happened to future... he already had a run where he was killing damn near every hook and making bangers.. his quality dipped for 1 project & suddenly dudes were like he's DONE, Migos, RHQ, Thug etc etc are better blah blah blah... a few months later Future starts his "2nd run" and now dudes are acting as if he's god. It just extremes overload with fans these days.

 

[coldcity]

coldcity
@Da R Entertainment

It's good to know Purple Reign is weaning out the Jumpman and F Up Some Comma day 1 fans.

im not a "day 1" fan & never said I was but im def not a commas or jumpman late comer

the tape aint what the 3 peat was that's not disrespect its my op

 

[iamdef]

How can you have a fall from grace within a year??

and as far as the examples you stated

- DMX was making quality **** well after 1998... everything he dropped wasn't going to be classic material but he surely didn't fizzle out for another 3-4 years (AND BEFORE ANYONE CHIMES IN I'M NOT EVEN TALKING COMMERCIAL SUCCESS, SIMPLY QUALITY OF THE MUSIC AND IMPACT ON THE GAME)

- Wayne was putting out quality music from C1 - no cielings, was everything he dropped in that period fire, absolutely not but he was def far from trash.
- Nelly/ Cash Money i was never too deep into their sound to really agree or disagree
- 50's run all started from him KILLING every mixtape he did about a year or two prior to GRODT & he continued on a steady pace until Curtis era

My point is that rap these days are all about extremes & A lot of that simply comes from people loving hype.. i see artist who will be on fire one second, but as soon as someone else comes along, suddenly fans act as if everything the other artist does is complete trash.

This is all based on opinions, but with that said i don't see how someone can say 56 nights is Amazing project & then say PR is trash... not as good, sure.... but complete trash? Future has fallen off? *****

Hell This isn't evven the first time this happened to future... he already had a run where he was killing damn near every hook and making bangers.. his quality dipped for 1 project & suddenly dudes were like he's DONE, Migos, RHQ, Thug etc etc are better blah blah blah... a few months later Future starts his "2nd run" and now dudes are acting as if he's god. It just extremes overload with fans these days.

Gotta agree

I know folks was enjoyin' Meek's tapes then when him and Drake got into it all of his hits were no existent and folks killed off his career, but after that War Pain joint and now them "fans" is peeking back out of hiding

 

[trynafeelmink]

PERFECT example, Meek was coming off probably his best project of his career, dropping good music, height of his popularity... suddenly drake disses him and now dudes are acting as if he has been releasing straight garbage since. dudes are so thirsty to be down with what's cool or hot, that they will go from bumping an artist daily to condemning the same artist 2 months later because it's the popular opinion.

Now is future bulletproof of criticism hell no, but to say that he's trash now/ isn't making good music (nobody in particular in this thread, but i do see it on social media) based off one mixtape not being complete fire just screams to me that dudes probably didn't even feel the music, they just liked it because it was the hot thing to like.

 

[larry david]

coldcity
@Da R Entertainment

It's good to know Purple Reign is weaning out the Jumpman and F Up Some Comma day 1 fans.

im not a "day 1" fan & never said I was but im def not a commas or jumpman late comer

the tape aint what the 3 peat was that's not disrespect its my op

Meh. I can respect you saying it's not on the 3 peat's level but to agree with someone stating "it's not great at all" simply because it's not on that level is an unrealistic measuring stick.

For the record, in my opinion, PR > BM.

 

[All Ready]

not completely true tho

meek started the issue and made himself look like a sucker in these streets

he made it look funny for cats to listen to him cause you hear the lyrics while you have an image of him getting handled by a singing &@$@$

I never stopped listening to meek but he stunted his own growth

war pain was his first good move in 6 months

6 months in rap is like 3 years and while in the middle of the biggest beef in years made it an eternity

 

[trynafeelmink]

Meh. I can respect you saying it's not on the 3 peat's level but to agree with someone stating "it's not great at all" simply because it's not on that level is an unrealistic measuring stick.

For the record, in my opinion, PR > BM.

this is kind of another extreme tho.. no ?

Not great doesn't suggest it's trash or not on par with future's music at all, it's simply someone thinking it isn't as good as projects that have been put on a plateau

 

[larry david]

Meh. I can respect you saying it's not on the 3 peat's level but to agree with someone stating "it's not great at all" simply because it's not on that level is an unrealistic measuring stick.

For the record, in my opinion, PR > BM.

this is kind of another extreme tho.. no ?

Not great doesn't suggest it's trash or not on par with future's music at all, it's simply someone thinking it isn't as good as projects that have been put on a plateau

No, it's not another extreme.

"Not great at all" and "not great" are two completely different statements.

 

[trynafeelmink]

not completely true tho

meek started the issue and made himself look like a sucker in these streets

he made it look funny for cats to listen to him cause you hear the lyrics while you have an image of him getting handled by a singing &@$@$

I never stopped listening to meek but he stunted his own growth

war pain was his first good move in 6 months

6 months in rap is like 3 years and while in the middle of the biggest beef in years made it an eternity

So cats can't listen to Meek because of a diss song..... But can listen to cats who have taken real losses like being robbed, beat up, being complete frauds, saying wild homo erotic **** all over tracks, admitted drug addicts etc etc.......... NAHHHH i can't buy that. no real person is going to stop listening to music they enjoy because a dude lost a battle. 6 months down the line cats are still bringing meek into **** that has nothing to do with him because it's still the "cool" thing to do.

 

[tay1]

Bruh is dropping **** too close apart. Period. Most of ya'll just already likes everything he does.

 

[All Ready]

meek was talking crazy to cassidy and I think mook (can't fully remember which battler) bout how he was gon battle on stage and how he been battle rapping and it never left him yada yada

also talking the cool, fly get money talk while looking uncool by losing a battle to a non battle rapper

he put a stigma onto himself and his music

drake has a stigma for not writing and meek has a stigma for looking like a clown

it's the cool thing to do and meeks fault, it's both

same thing happened to ja rule

 

[District of Columbia]

Wop was dropping tape after tape after tape in the height of his prime and all that **** for the most part was fire. This is the first time we can really say he has dropped consecutive projects back to back. DS2 was in July and I'm not counting WATTBA. It's been a solid 5-6 months since his last real project

Ain't not over saturation here imo

 

[$tacy]

So cats can't listen to Meek because of a diss song..... But can listen to cats who have taken real losses like being robbed, beat up, being complete frauds, saying wild homo erotic **** all over tracks, admitted drug addicts etc etc.......... NAHHHH i can't buy that. no real person is going to stop listening to music they enjoy because a dude lost a battle. 6 months down the line cats are still bringing meek into **** that has nothing to do with him because it's still the "cool" thing to do.

Bruh u ain't lying, preach. Dudes here were clowning me for listening to gunplay music because so lost a fight. That **** ain't change the music I liked so who cares. Even Drake said it, that intro is one of the best rap moment so this generation, now all of a sudden dudes don't like it no more. The 2 eps he dropped is some of his best music in a while also.

 

[All Ready]

gunplay never changed his sound or stance

he stood on everything and his music and his actions are truly him

not every loss looks bad

best example is ronda rousy, her loss looked bad because everything she stood on before the loss

there are plenty of fighters who could lose and it wouldn't affect them

 

[Proposition Joe]

Gunplays multiple losses look bad

Fam been knocked out 3 different times on camera

 

[coldcity]

coldcity
@Da R Entertainment

It's good to know Purple Reign is weaning out the Jumpman and F Up Some Comma day 1 fans.

im not a "day 1" fan & never said I was but im def not a commas or jumpman late comer

the tape aint what the 3 peat was that's not disrespect its my op

Meh. I can respect you saying it's not on the 3 peat's level but to agree with someone stating "it's not great at all" simply because it's not on that level is an unrealistic measuring stick.

For the record, in my opinion, PR > BM.

Meh. I can respect you saying it's not on the 3 peat's level but to agree with someone stating "it's not great at all" simply because it's not on that level is an unrealistic measuring stick.

For the record, in my opinion, PR > BM.

this is kind of another extreme tho.. no ?

Not great doesn't suggest it's trash or not on par with future's music at all, it's simply someone thinking it isn't as good as projects that have been put on a plateau

exactly

 

[All Ready]

Gunplays multiple losses look bad

Fam been knocked out 3 different times on camera

those same losses would end someone else's career is my point

 

[iamdef]

not completely true tho

meek started the issue and made himself look like a sucker in these streets

he made it look funny for cats to listen to him cause you hear the lyrics while you have an image of him getting handled by a singing &@$@$

I never stopped listening to meek but he stunted his own growth

war pain was his first good move in 6 months

6 months in rap is like 3 years and while in the middle of the biggest beef in years made it an eternity

Even with all of that nobody was sayin his career was over tho. When Drake's fans ran with them memes and them charger emojis is when his career was declared dead. And let's be honest charged up was the dryest "diss" on this side of the milky way and they killed his career.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Yea they would. They would've also ended gunplays career if he had one.

 

[All Ready]

I like the joke but cmon, he def is working

 

[Proposition Joe]

You cannot sit here with a straight face and say gunplay has a rap career, he's been on board with Ross since the beginning 10 years ago and dropped his first album last year.....

Which sold under 1,000 copies

 

[$tacy]

Kidd kidd been rapping since 03 adenosine here can name a project from him. And record sales mean nothing in this day and age. The music is raw and it's good, that's all that matters.