***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[mgrand15]

Holy FFFFFF........as suspected, Trump may actually be a Clinton plot (who they didn't expect to gain traction and pose a threat)

Little Donald is hardly posing a threat and causing the GOP to implode. Plan seems to be working beautifully thanks to the deplorables.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

I don't see anything wrong with what's mentioned in the dem strategy email. In fact, kudos to whoever came up with the strategy. Those 3 are extremely flawed candidates that would be a boon for the dems if either 3 succeeded in running against Hillary. I'm certain the gop had the same strategies also.

Look at whats happening now... The gop is cannibalizing itself because of that idiot & his idiot/deplorable base. It's a great plan.

To suggest Hillary's campaign or only the dems approach campaigns like this is just plain stupid. In fact, I would wager to bet republican emails are faaaar worse.

Kudos to whoever wrote the email for using crudgel. Great use of the word.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

On point but I no longer find the lighthearted portrayal of this criminal family enterprise that funny. We've been played.

You seem to be pretty certain that anyone who provides you with any kind of anti-Hillary information propaganda is trustworthy though. No conspiracy theories there whatsoever.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

At the end of the day, there really isn't much to the leaked emails but it definately shows how dangerous putin & russia is again. It highlights how complimentary chubby aka male sarah palin & pence have been of putin & that's supremely un-American. His campaign has consistently shown very un-American values from top to bottom, in every single way.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

I don't see anything wrong with what's mentioned in the dem strategy email. In fact, kudos to whoever came up with the strategy. Those 3 are extremely flawed candidates that would be a boon for the dems if either 3 succeeded in running against Hillary. I'm certain the gop had the same strategies also.

Look at whats happening now... The gop is cannibalizing itself because of that idiot & his idiot/deplorable base. It's a great plan.

To suggest Hillary's campaign or only the dems approach campaigns like this is just plain stupid. In fact, I would wager to bet republican emails are faaaar worse.

Kudos to whoever wrote the email for using crudgel. Great use of the word.

Yeah, that email didn't blow me away and I sat and read the whole thing.

Does anyone think that there is any campaign that doesn't strategize in this way? I don't see any outward foul play in the email. I don't think campaigns should run by slinging mud and pulling down your opponent, but how could anyone be surprised by this?

 

[rico x hood]

Except no one took Trump or Carson seriously. All bets were on Cruz, literally. Trump blindsided everyone.

Some strategy.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

This whole "criminal enterprise" description is waaaay off base but typical of the deplorable/idiot base.

It reminds me of that scene in Trading Places where Winthorpe tries to frame Valentine...

 

[mgrand15]

Except no one took Trump or Carson seriously. All bets were on Cruz, literally. Trump blindsided everyone.

Some strategy.

The plan was to make the most insane candidates be taken seriously. They would either win and be too crazy to actually be elected (what's happening now) or they'd drag the saner republicans to the right. Strategy worked better than they could've imagined thanks to independents like yourself

 

[jape]

On point but I no longer find the lighthearted portrayal of this criminal family enterprise that funny. We've been played.

nah you've been played

lmao

what's this "we" business?

 

[noskey]

On point but I no longer find the lighthearted portrayal of this criminal family enterprise that funny. We've been played.

nah you've been played

lmao
what's this "we" business?

Preach. Some of us called Trump being a tool used by the Clintons from the jump. Of course, that "email" is wayyyyyyy too convenient and makes no sense.

 

[Kimchi Papi]

It would be different if the email contained something damning like;

- 2004, Karl Rove orchestrated robo calls & direct mail pieces in the bible belt saying if John Kerry is elected, he would ban the bible in the US.
- 2003, Rove & scooter libby out a CIA operative for political gain.
- 1996, Ross Perot appeared on Meet The Press saying before he entered the race, republican operatives asked him to donate money to complete stealth smeer campaigns against the dems. He also mentioned after he enter the race, the FBI completed wire taps on him, & how the republicans threatened to publish phony nude photos of his daughter.
-1994, rove helps gw win the governor's race by smearing rival Ann Richards saying she was was gay & running push polling phone calls asking voters "would you be more or less likely to vote for Governor Richards if you knew her staff is dominated by lesbians."
- 1993 (?) - The Arkansas Project & troopergate
- 1988, Willie Horton ads.
- 1980s, Iran Contra Affair/BCCI Affair

I mean if you want to talk criminal enterprise, these acts constitute criminal enterprise...

 

[harlemtothebronx]

The email was tame in comparison to that list.

 

[ninjahood]

At the end of the day, there really isn't much to the leaked emails

-CNN broad feeding Clinton town hall questions ahead of time.

-da straight contempt her aides have for Religious factions of da electorate.

-her complete betrayal of millennials that thought she was sincere about her wallstreet/environmentalists positions.

-da straight collusion of Media types of all stripes.

and there's still more to drop.

 

[rolaholic]

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Assange better hurry. Time is running out.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

 

At the end of the day, there really isn't much to the leaked emails

-CNN broad feeding Clinton town hall questions ahead of time.

-da straight contempt her aides have for Religious factions of da electorate.

-her complete betrayal of millennials that thought she was sincere about her wallstreet/environmentalists positions.

-da straight collusion of Media types of all stripes.

and there's still more to drop.

I haven't dug deep into the emails just because of the volume. Could you link me to examples of this? I'd honestly like to read them.

 

[mgrand15]

-CNN broad feeding Clinton town hall questions ahead of time.

-da straight contempt her aides have for Religious factions of da electorate.

-her complete betrayal of millennials that thought she was sincere about her wallstreet/environmentalists positions.

-da straight collusion of Media types of all stripes.

and there's still more to drop.

And your boy Donny is still on the ropes?

Let ninja tell it and Hillary has alienated every group

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Like I said, nada... Those emails don't amount to a hill of beans, in fact the material looks down right silly compared to my previous post.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

If I had a dime for every time a republican scoffed and chuckled to buy time to defend blatant hypocrisy, I'd have like 21442 dimes.

 

[paulwest1985]

The republican party's downfall has been in the making since 2008. Once a black man got elected president over a war hero, the writing was on the wall. They've yet to come to terms with that. 

 

[frshstunna]

Only ppl who still care about the emails are the dumb trump supporters still holding on to what lil hope they have left ...majority of them haven't even actually read the emails at that

 

[SC kid]

People asking for refunds lloool

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...ors-are-asking-trump-their-money-back-n664661

 

[ninjahood]

 

At the end of the day, there really isn't much to the leaked emails

-CNN broad feeding Clinton town hall questions ahead of time.


-da straight contempt her aides have for Religious factions of da electorate.


-her complete betrayal of millennials that thought she was sincere about her wallstreet/environmentalists positions.


-da straight collusion of Media types of all stripes.


and there's still more to drop.

I haven't dug deep into the emails just because of the volume. Could you link me to examples of this? I'd honestly like to read them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...a/donna-brazile-wikileaks-question/index.html

How did the text of a CNN-TV One town hall question about the death penalty end up in the hands of the Clinton campaign ahead of time?

In a hacked email published by Wikileaks, Democratic National Committee official Donna Brazile appeared to tell Clinton campaign communications director Jennifer Palmieri that "from time to time I get the questions in advance." The March 12 email foreshadowed a question asked by TV One host Roland Martin at the March 13 town hall.

Brazile was both a DNC vice chair and CNN political commentator at the time. But CNN flatly denied any coordination. "We have never, ever given a town hall question to anyone beforehand," a CNN spokeswoman said.


Martin did not deny sharing information with Brazile. Instead, when asked by CNNMoney, he said "my questions were shared with my executive producer and several members of my TV One team."

When asked in a followup question if he would explicitly rule out any sharing of questions with Brazile, Martin did not respond.

Catholic group demands top Clinton aide resign over leaked emails

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A top aide to Hillary Clinton is under fire from Catholic groups for remarks she made in hacked emails published by Wikileaks, with one group calling on Clinton’s communications director Jennifer Palmieri to resign.


In an email exchange from 2011, senior fellow John Halpin at the progressive think tank Center for American Progress sent an email to Palmieri and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta in which he mocked media mogul Rupert Murdoch and former Wall Street Journal managing editor Robert Thompson for raising their children Catholic.
“Friggin' Murdoch baptized his kids in Jordan where John the Baptist baptized Jesus,” Halpin wrote. “Many of the most powerful elements of the conservative movement are all Catholic (many converts) from the SC and think tanks to the media and social groups. It's an amazing bastardization of the faith. They must be attracted to the systematic thought and severely backwards gender relations and must be totally unaware of Christian democracy.”

Podesta did not respond to the email chain, but Palmieri weighed did:

“I imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion,” she wrote. “Their rich friends wouldn't understand if they became evangelicals.”

The Catholic League, an anti-defamation organization, blasted the Clinton campaign for the exchange.

“These anti-Catholic remarks are bad enough but it makes one wonder what else Clinton’s chiefs and others associated with the campaign are saying about Catholics and Catholicism,” the group said in a statement.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ic-group-demands-top-clinton-aide-resign-over

During the fight for the Democratic presidential nomination, Hillary Clinton cast herself as a skeptic of hydraulic fracturing -- the controversial process to extract natural gas. But newly released documents purporting to show excerpts of her paid speeches show that Clinton proudly touted her support for fracking, which environmental groups say can pollute groundwater and undermine the fight against climate change. The excerpts also show Clinton saying that some environmental organizations trying to restrict her work to promote fracking were front groups for Russian oligarchs.

The transparency group Wikileaks published the document as part of what it says is a tranche of emails from John Podesta, Clinton’s campaign chairman. Podesta has refused to say whether the excerpts are authentic but has not denied their authenticity, either.

The document published by Wikileaks shows what purports to be an 80-page memo of excerpts of Clinton’s speeches -- which she refused to publicly release during the primary campaign. It appears to be attached to a January 25, 2016 email to Podesta and other Clinton campaign aides.


In one excerpt of a speech to Deutsche Bank in April 2013, according to the document, Clinton boasted about the federal government’s support for fracking and her own work to promote the process across the globe.

“Fracking was developed at the Department of Energy,” the document shows Clinton saying. “I mean, the whole idea of how fracking came to be available in the marketplace is because of research done by our government. And I've promoted fracking in other places around the world.”

https://www.google.com/amp/www.ibti...ort-fracking-wikileaks-document-2428659?amp=1

Transcripts of private speeches by US Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton have been released by the whistle-blowing site Wikileaks.

In one of the extracts, Mrs Clinton told bankers that they were best-placed to help reform the US financial sector.

She also said she favoured "open trade and open borders". Mrs Clinton's main opponent, Donald Trump, has said he wants to renegotiate key trade deals.

Mrs Clinton had refused to publish the transcripts, from 2013 and 2014.

Her rival in the Democratic primaries, Bernie Sanders, had repeatedly called on her to release the text of her speeches, which are thought to have earned her about $26m (£21m).

https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/37595047

 

[harlemtothebronx]

 
The republican party's downfall has been in the making since 2008. Once a black man got elected president over a war hero, the writing was on the wall. They've yet to come to terms with that. 

They certainly had a chance to grab some ears. Not everyone loves Obama, and I know I was certainly willing to lend them an ear during the primaries. If they would have took the time to adjust with the times and reach out to people in a different fashion than they always have, I think they could have took the election pretty easily. Before all this, Paul Ryan definitely could have won if they had a solid game plan and they stepped away from religious fanaticism for just enough time to speak to groups who they've never really reached out to.

Now they have Trump representing them. Guiliani forgetting about 9/11. Chris Christie in the middle of the Bridgegate scandal. They got so comfortable and they're so used to not adjusting that they just allowed this to happen before their very eyes. Most even helped by giving Trump their support even after he had disrespected a huge portion of the country.

I actually expected the pushback to be worse, honestly. I'm surprised that more people have sense than not in this country.

Thanks @ninjahood  

 

[Kimchi Papi]

Still trying to push emails... Yawn...