***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Wargames]

Not following too closely, but I thought they were just going to apologize for a "bad interview" accepting guilt, how did it change to this?

The initially said they were going to admit to trying to kidnap him and say he died because they accidently "broke" him in the process. Then it came out that they began to saw off his limbs while he was alive without anesthesia with the Saudi consul in the next room listening to his screams...... and they probably realized they are better off denying knowing anything about it.

Let that sink in though...... they began to dismember him while he was alive without any anesthesia. Like this is so much worse than them just killing him and that says a lot.

 

[Belgium]

For reference, Kenneth Starr spent four years investigating President Bill Clinton before releasing his report on the Monica Lewinsky affair, which spawned from the original Whitewater probe investigating an Arkansas land deal. Starr's deputy, Brett Kavanaugh, after joining the Bush administration took on the view that the sitting president should not be subject to any investigation and/or questioning.

In the Valerie Plame affair, Special Counsel Fitzgerald probe took nearly 2 years to indict Scooter Libby, chief of staff for VP **** Cheney.
Libby was indicted for lying to investigators and obstruction of justice. Bush commuted his sentence and Libby was eventually pardoned by president Trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...dy-to-deliver-key-findings-in-his-trump-probe
Mueller Ready to Deliver Key Findings in His Trump Probe, Sources Say
Special Counsel Robert Mueller is expected to issue findings on core aspects of his Russia probe soon after the November midterm elections as he faces intensifying pressure to produce more indictments or shut down his investigation, according to two U.S. officials.

Specifically, Mueller is close to rendering judgment on two of the most explosive aspects of his inquiry: whether there were clear incidents of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, and whether the president took any actions that constitute obstruction of justice, according to one of the officials, who asked not to be identified speaking about the investigation.

That doesn’t necessarily mean Mueller’s findings would be made public if he doesn’t secure unsealed indictments. The regulations governing Mueller’s probe stipulate that he can present his findings only to his boss, who is currently Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The regulations give a special counsel’s supervisor some discretion in deciding what is relayed to Congress and what is publicly released.

The question of timing is critical. Mueller’s work won’t be concluded ahead of the Nov. 6 midterm elections, when Democrats hope to take control of the House and end Trump’s one-party hold on Washington.

But this timeline also raises questions about the future of the probe itself. Trump has signaled he may replace Attorney General Jeff Sessions after the election, a move that could bring in a new boss for Mueller. Rosenstein also might resign or be fired by Trump after the election.

Rosenstein has made it clear that he wants Mueller to wrap up the investigation as expeditiously as possible, another U.S. official said. The officials gave no indications about the details of Mueller’s conclusions. Mueller’s office declined to comment for this story.

Pre-Election Lull
With three weeks to go before the midterm elections, it’s unlikely Mueller will take any overt action that could be turned into a campaign issue. Justice Department guidelines say prosecutors should avoid any major steps close to an election that could be seen as influencing the outcome.

That suggests the days and weeks immediately after the Nov. 6 election may be the most pivotal time since Mueller took over the Russia investigation almost a year and a half ago. So far, Mueller has secured more than two dozen indictments or guilty pleas.

Trump’s frustration with the probe, which he routinely derides as a “witch hunt,” has been growing, prompting concerns he may try to shut down or curtail Mueller’s work at some point.

There’s no indication, though, that Mueller is ready to close up shop, even if he does make some findings, according to former federal prosecutors. Several matters could keep the probe going, such as another significant prosecution or new lines of inquiry. And because Mueller’s investigation has been proceeding quietly, out of the public eye, it’s possible there have been other major developments behind the scenes.

Mueller only recently submitted written questions to Trump’s lawyers regarding potential collusion with Russia, and his team hasn’t yet ruled out seeking an interview with the president, according to one of the U.S. officials. If Trump refused an interview request, Mueller could face the complicated question of whether to seek a grand jury subpoena of the president. The Justice Department has a standing policy that a sitting president can’t be indicted.

At the same time, Mueller is tying down some loose ends. Four of his 17 prosecutors have left the special counsel’s office in recent months. Three are going back to their previous Justice Department jobs, and the fourth has become a research fellow at Columbia Law School.

After several postponements, Mueller’s team has agreed to a sentencing date for Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, who pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements last year. The Dec. 18 date comes more than a year after Mueller secured a cooperation deal with Flynn, suggesting that Mueller’s team has all it needs from him.

Trump’s former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, struck his own cooperation agreement with Mueller last month, after being convicted at trial in Virginia on eight counts of bank fraud, filing false tax returns and failure to file a foreign bank account. The plea agreement let him avoid a second trial in Washington. The judge in the Virginia trial, who wasn’t part of the plea agreement, has scheduled a sentencing hearing Friday, which could complicate Manafort’s cooperation agreement with Mueller.

Mueller’s prosecutors also have met with Michael Cohen, Trump’s former personal lawyer. Cohen pleaded guilty in New York in August to tax evasion, bank fraud and violations of campaign finance laws. That separate investigation, headed by the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Manhattan, is one of several New York probes involving the Trump Organization, and could ultimately prove to be more damaging to the president than Mueller’s work.

Manafort’s Plea
Former federal prosecutors said that Manafort’s plea deal probably advanced Mueller’s timeline for determining whether there was collusion.

Manafort could be assisting Mueller’s team on questions related to whether the Trump campaign changed the Republican party’s stance on Ukraine as part of an understanding with the Russian government, and whether the Russians helped coordinate the release of hacked emails related to Democrat Hillary Clinton with members of Trump’s campaign, said another former prosecutor who asked not to be named.

Manafort is also key to understanding a June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower between Donald Trump Jr. and a group of Russians who had promised damaging information concerning Clinton, the former official said.

Manafort appears to have good material to offer, said Samuel Buell, a former federal prosecutor who teaches at Duke University School of Law. “He’s not going to get that deal unless he can help Mueller make a case against one or more people,” Buell said. Cooperators can’t expect leniency unless they provide "substantial assistance in the prosecution of others," Buell added, citing sentencing guidelines.

Although the days and weeks after the election might test Mueller in new ways, he has confronted pressure before to shut down.

Done by Thanksgiving
Trump’s lawyers have attempted to publicly pressure Mueller into wrapping up his investigation, setting artificial deadlines since the early days of the probe when they predicted it would wrap by the end of 2017. In August 2017, then-White House lawyer Ty Cobb said he would be “embarrassed”if the investigation dragged on past Thanksgiving.

Even if Mueller’s probe stretched through 2019, the timeline wouldn’t be unprecedented. Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr spent four years investigating President Bill Clinton before releasing his report on the Monica Lewinsky affair, which spun out of a probe into an Arkansas land deal known as Whitewater.

It took almost two years for Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald to indict Scooter Libby, Vice President **** Cheney’s chief of staff, for lying to investigators and obstruction of justice in October 2005 in the investigation into the public outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame.

 

[Wargames]

Priorities.....

 

[Mark Antony]

I am still mad we got involved in Libya


The initially said they were going to admit to trying to kidnap him and say he died because they accidently "broke" him in the process. Then it came out that they began to saw off his limbs while he was alive without anesthesia with the Saudi consul in the next room listening to his screams...... and they probably realized they are better off denying knowing anything about it.

Let that sink in though...... they began to dismember him while he was alive without any anesthesia. Like this is so much worse than them just killing him and that says a lot.

Jesus.

 

[blastercombo]

King didn’t know though. Believe me

 

[Wargames]

Jesus.

Also apparently the guy who is doing the actual sawing is a total pro and gives suggestions to the other people in the room on how to deal with the screaming. He even implies that he has sawed other living people before.

 

[plansb]

Sounds like some **** youd see on homeland

 

[aepps20]

Our President Elect has spoken Soy Boys. Our Royal Majesty Elect already said nothing happened to the journalist. That's all I need and all you should need. Strong denials are all we need. Allegedly famb just like Roy Moore.

 

[kdawg]

Whose the guy behind Teddy in the painting?

Of the more recent ones the only one that fits would be Coolidge - I can also see Harding, Hoover, Grant and Taft as you go further back.

 

[blastercombo]

Our President Elect has spoken Soy Boys. Our Royal Majesty Elect already said nothing happened to the journalist. That's all I need and all you should need. Strong denials are all we need. Allegedly famb just like Roy Moore.

True, in fact the more the left want to question the more it didn’t happen. The king gets more innocent every second

 

[aepps20]

True, in fact the more the left want to question the more it didn’t happen. The king gets more innocent every second

That's exactly how it works. Besides, the integrators were just kids.

 

[boris]

For reference, Kenneth Starr spent four years investigating President Bill Clinton before releasing his report on the Monica Lewinsky affair, which spawned from the original Whitewater probe investigating an Arkansas land deal. Starr's deputy, Brett Kavanaugh, after joining the Bush administration took on the view that the sitting president should not be subject to any investigation and/or questioning.

In the Valerie Plame affair, Special Counsel Fitzgerald probe took nearly 2 years to indict Scooter Libby, chief of staff for VP **** Cheney.
Libby was indicted for lying to investigators and obstruction of justice. Bush commuted his sentence and Libby was eventually pardoned by president Trump.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...dy-to-deliver-key-findings-in-his-trump-probe
Mueller Ready to Deliver Key Findings in His Trump Probe, Sources Say
Special Counsel Robert Mueller is expected to issue findings on core aspects of his Russia probe soon after the November midterm elections as he faces intensifying pressure to produce more indictments or shut down his investigation, according to two U.S. officials.

Specifically, Mueller is close to rendering judgment on two of the most explosive aspects of his inquiry: whether there were clear incidents of collusion between Russia and Donald Trump’s 2016 campaign, and whether the president took any actions that constitute obstruction of justice, according to one of the officials, who asked not to be identified speaking about the investigation.

That doesn’t necessarily mean Mueller’s findings would be made public if he doesn’t secure unsealed indictments. The regulations governing Mueller’s probe stipulate that he can present his findings only to his boss, who is currently Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. The regulations give a special counsel’s supervisor some discretion in deciding what is relayed to Congress and what is publicly released.

The part about Rosenstein pressing Mueller to wrap up the investigation seems rather odd.

 

[boris]

True, in fact the more the left want to question the more it didn’t happen. The king gets more innocent every second

Due process, b. The left is full of sour grapes and can't get over Hillary losing. They need to look at Elizabeth Warren and her Native American ancestry, 'cause this Saudi Arabia thing is a bunch of nothingburgers.

 

[Based Jesus]

I'm always amazed at the patience our people show in these vids.
I got a short temper when tried, so after telling her racist *** to move once, I would've moved her, and probably not gently either.

 

[aepps20]

I'm always amazed at the patience our people show in these vids.
I got a short temper when tried, so after telling her racist *** to move once, I would've moved her, and probably not gently either.

I saw this video and it really makes my blood boil. What gives this person the right to behave this way. As an African American Conservative this is not how I want anyone to be treated. That person was lucky someone else wasn't there because a failure to answer questions about who you are and where you are going would've resulted in a left hook to the body. That young man owes her an apology.

 

[RustyShackleford]

I saw this video and it really makes my blood boil. What gives this person the right to behave this way. As an African American Conservative this is not how I want anyone to be treated. That person was lucky someone else wasn't there because a failure to answer questions about who you ar re and where you are going would've resulted in a left hook to the body. That young man owes her an apology.

Got me again

 

[solewoman]

cant wait for him to chime in about T.I.

 

[IATT]

The initially said they were going to admit to trying to kidnap him and say he died because they accidently "broke" him in the process. Then it came out that they began to saw off his limbs while he was alive without anesthesia with the Saudi consul in the next room listening to his screams...... and they probably realized they are better off denying knowing anything about it.

Let that sink in though...... they began to dismember him while he was alive without any anesthesia. Like this is so much worse than them just killing him and that says a lot.

 

[youngogjosh]

I saw this video and it really makes my blood boil. What gives this person the right to behave this way. As an African American Conservative this is not how I want anyone to be treated. That person was lucky someone else wasn't there because a failure to answer questions about who you ar re and where you are going would've resulted in a left hook to the body. That young man owes her an apology.

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

American is what ever trillion economy, who is worried about the drop in the bucket arm sales?

Those rural areas that reliably vote for the GOP. That's where the military bases and contractors are located. Without its war machine, you would see a lot of unrest in the forgotten parts of the country because the military is one of the very few options poor and working class folks have to have a decent life.

I'm always amazed at the patience our people show in these vids.
I got a short temper when tried, so after telling her racist *** to move once, I would've moved her, and probably not gently either.

She needs to get charged.

 

[IATT]

 

[Belgium]

Well I suppose this confirms Buzzfeed's recent reporting on suspicious financial transactions.
Excerpt:
Here are some of the articles allegedly informed by the leaks:

• Here’s How A Major Western Bank Enabled A Suspected Russian Money Launderer (Oct. 15, 2018 )
• The Planners Of The Trump Tower Meeting Moved Millions, And Mueller Is Now Investigating (Sept. 21, 2018 )
• A Series Of Suspicious Money Transfers Followed The Trump Tower Meeting (Sept. 12, 2018 )
• Here Is The Money Trail From The Russian "Agent" And Her Republican Partner (July 31, 2018 )
• These 13 Wire Transfers Are A Focus Of The FBI Probe Into Paul Manafort (Oct. 29, 2017)

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...?utm_source=google&utm_medium=bd&cmpId=google
U.S. Arrests Treasury Employee Accused of Leaking Bank Records on Manafort, Gates

• Manafort, Rick Gates, Russian Embassy files leaked to reporter
• Most recent article tied to leak was published Monday

The U.S. has arrested a Treasury Department employee for leaking confidential bank records pertaining to Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, the Russian Embassy and Maria Butina, who’s been accused of being a Russian agent.

Natalie Mayflower Sours Edwards , a senior adviser at the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, known as FinCEN, was accused of leaking Suspicious Activity Reports to a reporter, who isn’t identified. The articles cited by prosecutors were written by journalists at BuzzFeed -- the most recent having been published Oct. 15.

BuzzFeed didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment on the arrest.

Edwards began communicating with the unidentified reporter in July 2017, according to prosecutors. Between October 2017 and January 2018, she saved thousands of FinCen files, including all the SARs cited in the case.

When she was arrested Tuesday, Edwards had a flash drive on which she apparently saved the SARs, as well as a phone containing communications over an encrypted application in which she transmitted the reports to the reporter, according to a news release from the U.S. Attorney in New York.

Edwards confessed to leaking the SARs to the reporter earlier Wednesday when questioned by officials, although she “falsely denied” knowing that the material was going to be published, according to the complaint.

Click here to read the criminal complaint

Under the Bank Secrecy Act, financial institutions are required to report suspicious transactions to the Treasury. Unauthorized disclosures of SARs is a criminal offense.

Edwards is scheduled to appear in court in Alexandria later today.

 

[IATT]

Smmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[aepps20]

Smmmmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Our President Elect could've been a scientist if he wasn't so handsome and awesome at sports. He truly does have a natural instinct for science.

Picture of Libs after he dropped the ether.