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Not sure how Delk can allegedly be married to a black woman whom he may have a half-black daughter with in the future while living in a conservative state and think that this Breonna Taylor situation is remotely okay.

You don’t care about your wife.

You don’t care about your potential progeny.

You don’t care about black people.

You only care about yourself as evidenced by the fact you vote in favor of your financial gain then Julez your way into how your vote will help black people despite what we’ve seen from that President and party over the last four years. What good is the First Step Act or record HBCU funding if black children are being killed by police with impunity?

The fact that you are in a red state and more likely to be adversely affected by the white supremacy which Trump has supercharged makes your support even more deplorable. It’s not even the fact you’re a Biscuit Boy. It’s the fact that you’re a Biscuit Boy and you try to act like you’re down with the cause. You’re not.

Get a ****ing grip, man.
 
storm2006 said:
Not sure how Delk can allegedly be married to a black woman whom he may have a half-black daughter with in the future while living in a conservative state and think that this Breonna Taylor situation is remotely okay.

You don’t care about your wife.

You don’t care about your potential progeny.

You don’t care about black people.

You only care about yourself as evidenced by the fact you vote in favor of your financial gain then Julez your way into how your vote will help black people despite what we’ve seen from that President and party over the last four years. What good is the First Step Act or record HBCU funding if black children are being killed by police with impunity?

The fact that you are in a red state and more likely to be adversely affected by the white supremacy which Trump has supercharged makes your support even more deplorable. It’s not even the fact you’re a Biscuit Boy. It’s the fact that you’re a Biscuit Boy and you try to act like you’re down with the cause. You’re not.

Get a ****ing grip, man.
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I generally don’t respond to the “Delk”moniker, but I feel compelled to say my wife is black—period.

And I also don’t think the Breonna Taylor situation is in any way remotely okay. And I have no idea how you even arrived at that ridiculous conclusion.

Get a grip.
 
dwalk31 said:
This is from the whitehouse website:

President Donald J. Trump Is Working to Expand Opportunity and Prosperity for African Americans

www.whitehouse.gov

President Donald J. Trump Is Working to Expand Opportunity and Prosperity for African Americans | The White House

President Trump’s pro-growth economic agenda is creating more economic prosperity and opportunity for all Americans.
www.whitehouse.gov www.whitehouse.gov
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I'm sorry my post might not have been clear. I'm looking for the agenda of GOP/Trump platform the next 4 years specifically for African Americans
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
I'm sorry my post might not have been clear. I'm looking for the agenda of GOP/Trump platform the next 4 years specifically for African Americans
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Instead of an agenda there is an outline of the things that have been done/passed and a commitment to continue to do build on those efforts ando more.

It is not a detailed proposal like Biden offered.
But Trump also didn’t author the Crime Bill. Biden’s justice proposal essentially attempts to fix many issues Biden, himself, helped to create during his decades in office as a legislator.
 
Mark Antony said:
Oh **** he's going to sign that if becomes President? Thanks for the heads up. Curious, what particular section of the crime bill disturbs you most?
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Let me break down how full of **** Delk is one the crime bill. Because I don't think everyone realizes how inundated with crap Delk's argument are with.

-He wants to but all the blame on Joe Biden for the crime bill. Not Bill Clinton, the president that signed it.

-Yet with the First Step Act, he puts the praise on Trump for signing the law. Not Cory Booker, the man that was intrical for writing the law, pushing it through the Senate, and convincing Kusher to convince Trump to sign it.

So It is Ochie Wally with Biden, One Mic with Trump.

-He hand waves the fact Trump supported crime bills during the tough on crime era.

-He ignores that the GOP called the Crime Bill weak, and said Biden and the Dems were tough on crime.

-He ignores the Congressional Black Caucus saved the bill because they were scared that after the GOP won the House in 1992, that they would push a more dracion Crime Bill

-He ignores that Mayors of cities appealed to the Dems to pass the bill

-He ignores it had support it unfortunately had in the black community

-He ignores that the only reason Biden was tasked to write it was because he was head of the committee it had to go through before getting to a floor vote.

-He ignores that it was "crime bill' was an omnibus bill. Also contains the Violence Against Women's Act an assault weapons ban, ans set up the sex offender registry. You never hear Delk calling Biden the Artichect of Protecting Women from Domestic Violence, or the Architect of Protecting Kids from Pedos (to be fair, Delk is probably mad at him for doing this) now do we.

-He ignores that it didn't call for directly calling for locking up more people. What it did was pour fuel on the fire. States with the changes of their laws, their policing strategies, and their indulgence in providing jobs for rural white, off the back of black bodies, and use mass incarceration as a way to swing potential power to rural whites in a furtive de-facto gerrymandering scheme is what cause prison population to cheap increasing like they did. The worst offenders of this were Republicans lead states.

-He ignores that it was as draconian as it was not directly because of Biden, but other white conservative Dems in Congress. And again, Republicans were even worse than Conservative Dems.

-Hell he ignores mass incarceration was happening BEFORE the crime bill passed.

There is some truly terrible stuff in the crime bill. Things definitely worthy of criticism and a big **** you to Joe Biden.

However Delk, refuses to engage in with the history of the Crime Bill is a fair, honest, and nuanced way. He doesn't give a **** about black people hurt, he mainly gives a **** he can use it as a shield to protect Trump and attack Biden.

Or maybe he doesn't know this ****, and refuses to engage with these facts, because if gets in the way of his bad faith attack against Biden.
 
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dwalk31 said:
Instead of an agenda there is an outline of the things that have been done/passed and a commitment to continue to do build on those efforts ando more.

It is not a detailed proposal like Biden offered.
But Trump also didn’t author the Crime Bill. Biden’s justice proposal essentially attempts to fix many issues Biden, himself, helped to create during his decades in office as a legislator.
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do i get to give biden credit for this? All of which is more recent then the bipartisan crime bill


obamawhitehouse.archives.gov

Progress of the African-American Community During the Obama Administration

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Progress of the African-American Community During the Obama Administration


President Obama believes we need to restore security and opportunity for working Americans with the fundamental values that made our economy the strongest in the world—making sure everyone does their fair share, everyone gets a fair shake, and hard work and responsibility are rewarded. That’s why President Obama has worked to improve the lives of all Americans, including African Americans, by providing economic and educational opportunities, improving health care coverage, and working to ensure that the criminal justice system is applied fairly to all citizens. Although much work remains to be done, African Americans have made enormous strides in many of these areas during this Administration.
Key Accomplishments
Labor Market, Income and Poverty
  • The unemployment rate for African Americans peaked at 16.8 percent in March 2010, after experiencing a larger percentage-point increase from its pre-recession average to its peak than the overall unemployment rate did. Since then, the African-American unemployment rate has seen a larger percentage-point decline in the recovery, falling much faster than the overall unemployment rate over the last year.
  • The real median income of black households increased by 4.1 percent between 2014 and 2015.
  • The President enacted permanent expansions of the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit, which together now provide about 2 million African-American working families with an average tax cut of about $1,000 each.
  • A recent report from the Census Bureau shows the remarkable progress that American families have made as the recovery continues to strengthen. Real median household income grew 5.2 percent from 2014 to 2015, the fastest annual growth on record. Income grew for households across the income distribution, with the fastest growth among lower- and middle-income households. The number of people in poverty fell by 3.5 million, leading the poverty rate to fall from 14.8 percent to 13.5 percent, the largest one-year drop since 1968, with even larger improvements including for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and children.
  • The poverty rate for African Americans fell faster in 2015 than in any year since 1999. While the poverty rate fell for across all racial and ethnic groups this year, it fell 2.1 percentage points (p.p.) for African Americans, resulting in 700,000 fewer African Americans in poverty.
  • African American children also made large gains in 2015, with the poverty rate falling 4.2 percentage points and 400,000 fewer children in poverty.
Health
  • Since the start of Affordable Care Act's first open enrollment period at the end of 2013, the uninsured rate among non-elderly African Americans has declined by more than half. Over that period, about 3 million uninsured nonelderly, African-American adults gained health coverage.
  • Teen pregnancy among African-American women is at an historic low. The birth rate per 1,000 African-American teen females has fallen from 60.4 in 2008, before President Obama entered office, to 34.9 in 2014.
  • Life expectancy at birth is the highest it’s ever been for African Americans. In 2014, life expectancy at birth was 72.5 years for African-American males and 78.4 for African-American females, the highest point in the historical series for both genders.
Education
  • The high school graduation rate for African-American students is at its highest point in history. In the 2013-2014 academic year, 72.5 percent of African-American public high school students graduated within four years.
  • Since the President took office, over one million more black and Hispanic students enrolled in college.
  • Among African-Americans and Hispanic students 25 and older, high school completion is higher than ever before. Among African Americans, Hispanics, and Asian students 25 and older, Bachelor’s degree attainment is higher than ever before. As of 2015, 88 percent of the African-American population 25 and older had at least a high school degree and 23percent had at least a Bachelor’s degree.
Support for HBCUs
  • The U.S. Department of Education (ED) is responsible for funding more than $4 billion for HBCUs each year.
  • Pell Grant funding for HBCU students increased significantly between 2007 and 2014, growing from $523 million to $824 million.
  • The President’s FY 2017 budget request proposes a new, $30 million competitive grant program, called the HBCU and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) Innovation for Completion Fund, designed to support innovative and evidence-based, student-centered strategies and interventions to increase the number of low-income students completing degree programs at HBCUs and MSIs.
  • The First in the World (FITW) program provided unique opportunities for HBCUs to compete for grants focused on innovation to drive student success.
  • In 2014, Hampton University received a grant award of $3.5 million.
  • In FY 2015, three FITW awards were made to HBCUs, including Jackson State University ($2.9 million), Delaware State University ($2.6 million) and Spelman College ($2.7 million).
  • While Congress did not fund the program in fiscal year 2016, the President’s 2017 budget request includes $100 million for the First in the World program, with up to $30 million set aside for HBCUs and MSIs.
Criminal Justice
  • The incarceration rates for African-American men and women fell during each year of the Obama Administration and are at their lowest points in over two decades. The imprisonment rates for African-American men and women were at their lowest points since the early 1990s and late 1980s, respectively, of 2014, the latest year for which Bureau of Justice Statistics data are available.
  • The number of juveniles in secure detention has been reduced dramatically over the last decade. The number of juveniles committed or detained, a disproportionate number of whom are African American, fell more than 30% between 2007 and 2013.
  • The President has ordered the Justice Department to ban the use of solitary confinement for juveniles held in federal custody. There are presently no more juveniles being held in restrictive housing federally.
My Brother’s Keeper
  • President Obama launched the My Brother’s Keeper initiative on February 27, 2014 to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by boys and young men of color and ensure that all young people can reach their full potential.
  • Nearly 250 communities in all 50 states, 19 Tribal Nations, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico have accepted the President’s My Brother’s Keeper Community Challenge to dedicate resources and execute their own strategic plans to ensure all young people can reach their full potential.
  • Inspired by the President’s call to action, philanthropic and other private organizations have committed to provide more than $600 million in grants and in-kind resources and $1 billion in low-interest financing to expand opportunity for young people – more than tripling the initial private sector investment since 2014.
  • In May 2014, the MBK Task Force gave President Obama nearly 80 recommendations to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by young people, including boys and young men of color. Agencies have been working individually and collectively since to respond to recommendations with federal policy initiatives, grant programs, and guidance. Today, more than 80% of MBK Task Force Recommendations are complete or on track.
Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color
  • In 2014, the Council on Women and Girls (CWG) launched a specific work stream called “Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color” to ensure that policies and programs across the federal government appropriately take into account the unique obstacles that women and girls of color can face. In fall 2015, CWG released a report that identified five data-driven issue areas where interventions can promote opportunities for success at school, work, and in the community.
  • This work has also inspired independent commitments to advance equity, including a $100 million, 5-year-funding initiative by Prosperity Together—a coalition of women’s foundations—to improve economic prosperity for low-income women and women and girls of color and a $75 million funding commitment by the Collaborative to Advance Equity through Research—an affiliation of American colleges, universities, research organizations, publishers and public interest institutions led by Wake Forest University—to support existing and new research efforts about women and girls of color.
  • At the United State of Women Summit in June 2016, eight organizations launched “Young Women’s Initiatives,” place-based, data-driven programs that will focus in on the local needs of young women of color. Those organizations include the Women’s Foundation of Minnesota, the Women’s Foundation of California, the Women's Foundation for a Greater Memphis, the Washington Area Women’s Foundation, the Dallas Women’s Foundation, the Women’s Fund of Greater Birmingham, the Women’s Fund of Western Massachusetts, and the New York Women’s Foundation.
Small Business
  • There are 8 million minority-owned firms in the U.S.—a 38% increase since 2007.
  • In early 2015, the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) launched the MBK Millennial Entrepreneurs Initiative, which seeks to address the challenges faced by underserved millennials, including boys and young men of color, through self-employment and entrepreneurship. A major component of this effort included the six-part video series, titled “Biz My Way,” which encourages millennials to follow their passion in business.
  • In fiscal year 2015, underserved markets received 32,563 loans totaling $13 billion, compared with 25,799 loans and $10.47 billion in fiscal year 2014, an increase of 26 percent in number of loans and 24 percent in dollar amount.
  • Last year, the SBA issued a new rule that makes most individuals currently on probation or parole eligible for a SBA microloan—a loan of up to $50,000 that helps small businesses start up. And in August 2016, SBA together with the W.K. Kellogg Foundation and Justine Petersen, launched the Aspire Entrepreneurship Initiative, a $2.1 Million pilot initiative to provide entrepreneurship education and microloans to returning citizens in Detroit, Chicago, Louisville and St. Louis.
Civil Rights Division
  • The Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division continued to enforce federal law. Over the last eight years, the Division has vigorously protected the civil rights of individuals in housing, lending, employment, voting, education, and disability rights and through hate crimes and law enforcement misconduct prosecutions and law enforcement pattern and practice cases.
African-American Judicial Appointees
  • President Obama has made 62 lifetime appointments of African Americans to serve on the federal bench.
  • This includes 9 African-American circuit court judges.
  • It also includes the appointment of 53 African American district court judges—including 26 African-American women appointed to the federal court, which is more African-American women appointed by any President in history.
  • In total, 19% of the President’s confirmed judges have been African American, compared to 16% under President Bill Clinton and 7% under President George W. Bush.
  • Five states now have their first African-American circuit judge; 10 states now have their first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge; and 3 districts now have their first African-American district judge.
  • Also, the President appointed the first Haitian-American lifetime-appointed federal judge, the first Afro-Caribbean-born district judge, the first African-American female circuit judge in the Sixth Circuit, and the first African-American circuit judge on the First Circuit (who was also the first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge to serve anywhere in the First Circuit).
  • The President is committed to continuing to ensure diversity on the federal bench. This year, the President nominated Myra Selby of Indiana to the Seventh Circuit, Abdul Kallon of Alabama to the Eleventh Circuit, and Rebecca Haywood of Pennsylvania to the Third Circuit. If confirmed, each of these would be a judicial first—Myra Selby would be the first African-American circuit judge from Indiana, Abdul Kallon would be the first African-American circuit judge from Alabama, and Rebecca Haywood would be the first African-American woman on the Third Circuit.In addition, two of the President’s district court nominees—Stephanie Finely and Patricia Timmons-Goodson—would be the first African-American lifetime-appointed federal judges in each of their respective districts, if confirmed.
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People modeling the election says a Dem trifecta is very much possible. 538 has is as the most possible outcome in the election.

If Delk was so committed to criminal justice reform, the most progressive of which would come out of a Dem trifecta, with no filibuster.

Yet at the ballot, Delk is gonna do everything he can to prevent the Dems from winning

So his claims of caring about more criminal justice reform is bull****, because in practice, at the polls, he is very much against it.
 
Funny the modern GOP overly supports and leans into the worst effects of the crime bill (which they themselves corrupted and manipulated to be that way) including extra police funding and for profit jails etc. But hey, let's not hold them accountable.
 
dwalk31 said:
Okay, perhaps some civil rights liability legislation.
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Ah, but he's shown no interest in meaningful legislation like what the Democrats have passed in the House. He's instead further stoked racial tensions and emboldened violence against those protesting police brutality. What makes you think that an administration that has done nothing but attack civil rights will pass civil rights legislation to address this issue?

Democrats Unveil Sweeping Bill Targeting Police Misconduct and Racial Bias
 
dwalk31 said:
I don’t think Biden’s name is mentioned once in there.

You can give credit wherever you like, but I’d give that credit to President Obama, not Biden.

Especially considering Biden‘s work on the Crime Bill.
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Biden support all those reforms, and whipped votes for Obama in Congress.

Not only that, when the Dems stopped the tough on crime BS and started moving toward reforms, Biden support those too. Even before he became VP
 
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dwalk31 said:
I don’t think Biden’s name is mentioned once in there.

You can give credit wherever you like, but I’d give that credit to President Obama, not Biden.

Especially considering Biden‘s work on the Crime Bill.
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id have to question if Biden was so fervently in favor of crime bill era politics, why would Obama, the man you’re crediting with all those accomplishments, choose Biden to be his running mate twice, and then endorse him for president in this current election? And why would the lift every voice initiative contribute to further many of the same accomplishments listed above?

🤔
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
I'm sorry my post might not have been clear. I'm looking for the agenda of GOP/Trump platform the next 4 years specifically for African Americans
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You mean to tell me that you're not satisfied with a first AND second step act when they haul your *** in jail after headbutting a cop's bullet and being charged with endangerment of an LEO for doing so? How could you scoff at the possibility of spending 17 months making license plates for a dollar/day instead of 18, all thanks to the mercifulness of Don the Magnanimous?
 
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