***Official Political Discussion Thread***

He’s not advocating for Trump either though, he’s advocating for dismantling the system.
By staying home?

:rofl: :rofl:

These folks don't know what revolutions look like, and they would **** their pants if they happened in front of their dwellings.

Uprisings are messy affairs, and their occurrence is never a guarantee that the succeeding political system will be better than the one it replaced.
 
By staying home?

:rofl: :rofl:

These folks don't know what revolutions look like, and they would **** their pants if they happened in front of their dwellings.

Uprisings are messy affairs, and their occurrence is never a guarantee that the succeeding political system will be better than the one it replaced.
These scums think revolutions are done by posting the latest TikTok dance. If you don't have the energy to vote how are you going to stand ten toes down when a gun is pointed at you and your Loved ones because of your stance. Freedom ain't free but FreeDUMB sure is.
 
that's why biden's stance on Israel is ****.

ukraine is defending itself, Israel isn't.
But Biden's stance on Israel is changing. If you're going to complain about the speed of it, that's just how these things are.

Biden becomes president at a time when China and Russia are challenging the US, and the previous administration has established a pattern of abandoning its allies: the Kurds in Syria, the Afghan government during the withdrawal negotiations, NATO and putting in question the US commitment to Article 5, etc... In foreign policy circles, it's already accepted that the strength of American alliances is highly dependent on which president is in power. Congress is undermining US support for Ukraine from the inside; would you, as president, add to this negative record by unilaterally declaring that you will abandon Israel because of a matter that is regional and has little bearing on your interests?

In addition to that, although the US and Israel work on military tech, Israeli foreign policy is pretty much devoid of ideological bias: until Putin called Zelenskyy a Nazi, Israel had a warm relationship with Russia by virtue of having a good of it's population coming from Eastern Europe and/or speaking the language; Israelis are also not shy about selling weapons and intelligence tools and services to any and everyone (you find them and their tech in many dictatorship security services and militaries, and the US can't even sell weapons to those countries). The risk that our technological know-how gets disseminated by Israel if we turn on them is real, and I don't see any president take that risk to garner temporary support from people who generally don't vote.
 
That’s even more reason to stop selling to them because they don’t care and sell to anyone.

I don’t know why they have been tip toeing around it.

you sell bombs to a man who’s an authoritarian maniac and are surprised when he commits genocide with them?

It’s a legit thing to complain about.
 
By staying home?

:rofl: :rofl:

These folks don't know what revolutions look like, and they would **** their pants if they happened in front of their dwellings.

Uprisings are messy affairs, and their occurrence is never a guarantee that the succeeding political system will be better than the one it replaced.

This current system is unsustainable and there will be more and more failures within it and it will cause more and more ruptures in society.

What we want is for the preponderance of forces on the ground to be so thoroughly in our favor that we don’t have to fight.

Build as much community and networks of mutual aid and community defense as you can now. And a great ice breaker for doing so? a GOTV drive.
 
There will be more uprisings and unrest as the wealth gap grows for sure.

That’s different than a civil war though.
 
These scums think revolutions are done by posting the latest TikTok dance. If you don't have the energy to vote how are you going to stand ten toes down when a gun is pointed at you and your Loved ones because of your stance. Freedom ain't free but FreeDUMB sure is.
The thing that kills me is that some of these folks are old enough to have witnessed people being summarily arrested in unmarked vehicles during the BLM protests, and they are willing to entertain the thought of Trump leading this country again.

Give a leader with dictator tendencies another chance to use the police to tame people, and you're gonna regret it.
 
We don’t need anymore of that ****, look at Minneapolis and Portland now.

The unmarked cops thing was insane. Dudes were returning fire to cops because they didn’t say they were cops and actually lived to tell about it because the police f’ed up so bad they didn’t get in trouble either.

Trust me you don’t want that in your town.
 
The thing that kills me is that some of these folks are old enough to have witnessed people being summarily arrested in unmarked vehicles during the BLM protests, and they are willing to entertain the thought of Trump leading this country again.

Give a leader with dictator tendencies another chance to use the police to tame people, and you're gonna regret it.
I hate to say it but these people are scums and deplorables just like Trumpers. They think that all MLK, Malcolm and other civil rights leaders did was nonsense like what Shia was doing after Trump got elected




Instead of picking up an expletive book and actually discover that real activism and change must contain a ballot box component.

 
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This current system is unsustainable and there will be more and more failures within it and it will cause more and more ruptures in society.

What we want is for the preponderance of forces on the ground to be so thoroughly in our favor that we don’t have to fight.

Build as much community and networks of mutual aid and community defense as you can now. And a great ice breaker for doing so? a GOTV drive.

When people predict stuff like this, I often think you need a more global perspective.


Nigeria has

a similar presidential system,
-WAY worse income inequality
- LESS social cohesion and more racial conflict,
-WAY worse corruption,
- worse police violence.
- more political corruption.


and I don't see any signs of it ending.

if a band of vicious criminals can sustain Nigeria as a political project,
im not sure what would make America "unsustainable"
 
By staying home?

:rofl: :rofl:

These folks don't know what revolutions look like, and they would **** their pants if they happened in front of their dwellings.

Uprisings are messy affairs, and their occurrence is never a guarantee that the succeeding political system will be better than the one it replaced.
These folks ain't about it, either. Look what happened on Jan. 6th acted all tough and then started crying the moment they were getting caught. Clowns
 

Does this even qualify as a "dog whistle?"

Never, to my knowledge, was this nonsensical false dichotomy presented to those who received reparations for Japanese internment. Nor were the surviving family members of 9/11 victims asked, "wouldn't you rather have a father" when receiving benefits from the federal September 11th Victims' Compensation Fund.

We need not ask why these Moynihan Report-era racist stereotypes are deployed whenever the subject of reparations for slavery (or federally-mandated housing discrimination against Black Americans in particular) comes up, but in 2024 it is somehow worth asking how, exactly, it is within the government's purview to ensure that children are raised within a male-headed two-parent household.

Contemporary Republicans haven't merely expressed a preference for male-headed two-parent households as part of their Boomer nostalgia brand; reinforcing patriarchy has become an increasingly central part of their policy platform.
They're actively seeking to end "no fault" divorce, legitimize rape, and establish a surveillance state to monitor/control women's reproductive healthcare access, among other regressive policy prescriptions.

While pronatalism has long been a central component of White Nationalism, conservative efforts to combat feminism and emphasize male power and pride have increasingly won over disaffected cishet men of all races:


There is, sadly, an audience for this "fatherlessness" talk beyond groypers like Jesse Watters.

In the wake of OJ Simpson's death, we've seen a lot of backlash against people like Marc Lamont Hill for "pandering to feminists" by describing Mr. Simpson as guilty of murder despite his legal acquittal. While it's not unusual to see calls for compassion towards the families of the recently-deceased, it is noteworthy that some of Lamont Hill's critics have simultaneously recognized OJ Simpson as a victim of a racist criminal justice system and a public lynch mob eager to make an example of him for the cardinal sin of interracial marriage - while themselves opposing interracial relationships and calling for the return of Reagan-era crime laws to try children as adults and put "under the jail" kids accused of participating in viral "knockout game"-style street crime. And it strikes me as no coincidence that most of the men who hold such contradictory views are, themselves, both single and childless.


I don’t think it’s possible to overstate the extent to which incels have influenced contemporary conservative “culture.”

The entire worldview of these unwanted men seems built on the sour grapes premise that women are worse off for collectively rejecting them.

Maintaining this delusion also requires them to police gender boundaries, lest anyone believe gender roles are social constructs and not immutable biological facts, which create a naturally-ordained place for them at the head of the table.

All of women’s problems (and, by extension, those of their children) could be solved by a “strong man” to rule over them, 1950’s style, but these pairings should be solely at men’s discretion - because it’s apparently “unfair” if women have the opportunity to reject men whom they find unappealing.

But in the absence of a self-styled “strong man” (who, despite their obvious virtues, can only reliably attract crumbs and yet assumes themselves a father figure fit to raise children given their deep experience watching wrestling, playing video games, and ingesting hot pockets), discipline at the hands of law enforcement and material privation will suffice.


By staying home?

:rofl: :rofl:

These folks don't know what revolutions look like, and they would **** their pants if they happened in front of their dwellings.

Uprisings are messy affairs, and their occurrence is never a guarantee that the succeeding political system will be better than the one it replaced.
Democratic non-participation isn't a protest.
It's surrender.


If the policy reforms we want aren't currently on offer by any viable candidate, we nonetheless have an obligation to vote towards a future in which such reforms are at least possible.
 
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