OFFICIAL STOCK MARKET AND ECONOMY THREAD VOL. A NEW CHAPTER

That's why the argument for TSLA growing its market share is that much more important. They have what, 22+% already? Arguably building the infrastructure around it as well.
Tesla is such a better play in reality because of everything else they offer. It just needs to pull back or build a base for a while to reset their valuation a little. It’s insanity right now. I can’t rationalize being a buyer here at all.

great thread
 
Tesla is such a better play in reality because of everything else they offer. It just needs to pull back or build a base for a while to reset their valuation a little. It’s insanity right now. I can’t rationalize being a buyer here at all.

great thread


You're right, especially from a fundamental perspective. However, given the infancy of the industry as a whole, I equate it to a growth equity/late stage venture type. They'll grow into the valuation you're paying for today.
 
You're right, especially from a fundamental perspective. However, given the infancy of the industry as a whole, I equate it to a growth equity/late stage venture type. They'll grow into the valuation you're paying for today.
Amazon did after all, right? That’s been my approach to owning SHOP and you can argue that will be the same approach to owning ZM. Hopefully we see that consolidation in Tesla to guarantee it can grow into its valuation and not artificially inflating and then destroy everyone by exploding.
 
It's meteoric rise has obviously has led to natural bearish sentiment especially coupled with those who value on true fundamentals. Amazon is an interest proxy when you look at what online shopping was when they went public, what they did (books) and now what they are. Has Tesla gone deeper into the insurance side given the volume of data they must have? I saw it a while back and hadn't followed up since. Logistics and taxis are probably ancillary lines that will propel some growth.

This is akin to some of the SPACs your seeing. If Tesla started today versus when it did, you probably would see it going the SPAC route. On the daily I see private company's valued on a pre-revenue basis for hundreds of millions; it's based on market potential which won't be captured for many years. You're seeing something like it w/ TSLA IMO, just played out in the public markets (probably most similar to biotech, honestly).
 
Remember it’s possible there isn’t enough growth on the user front and their margins could be pressured from content costs. They have seen some churn lately as well. It wouldn’t shock me to see a miss tbh.

if we get good FAANG numbers this bull market is going to rip. They haven’t done anything in a long time. If we don’t, I think we see the correction
 
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$DMTK - DermTech

Website: DermTech.com/

Stock price: $39.00

Market cap: $930 million

Enterprise value: $870 million

Founded: 1995

Founded by: John Dobak [LinkedIn]

IPO Date: $DMTK went public via SPAC in 2019 [click here]

HQ: La Jolla, California

Employees: 80+ including 40+ sales reps

  • 2019 revenues: $3 million
  • 2020 revenues (est): $6 million
  • 2021 revenues (est): $12 million
$DMTK 2020 Q3 Earnings Report [read here]

Video of sample collection [watch here]

DermTech announces results of TRUST study [click here]

Presentation at ICR Conference, January 2020 [watch here]

Presentation at Canaccord Genuity MedTech Forum, November 2020 [watch here]

Presentation at Stifel Healthcare Conference, November 2020 [click here]

$DMTK announces $143.7 million stock offering on January 11th, 2021 [read here]

$DMTK announces inclusion of their genomic testing patch in the National Comprehensive Cancer Network [read here]




$DMTK - DermTech

DermTech ($DMTK) is a molecular diagnostics company that develops and markets non-invasive diagnostic tests to diagnose skin cancer and other skin related conditions. The company offers Pigmented Lesion Assay (PLA), a gene expression test that helps rule out melanoma and the need for a surgical biopsy. $DMTK also provides the Nevome test, an adjunctive reflex test for the PLA and adhesive skin sample collection kits, as well as gene expression assays for the Th1, Th2, IFN-gamma, and Th17 inflammatory pathways. $DMTK is also developing non-melanoma skin cancer diagnostic and non-melanoma skin cancer risk assessment products. The $DMTK Melanoma Test is a new kind of lab test that looks for signs of melanoma in your skin’s genomic material.




With the traditional biopsy care pathway, clinicians use their eyes — aided by a microscope — to see physical changes to a mole (aka pigmented lesion), and the cells within it. If the dermatologist is concerned with the mole they will order a biopsy, performed with a scalpel.




The $DMTK test uses a gene expression test to analyze the RNA inside those cells.

Since the $DMTK testing method can find indications of melanoma at this more precise level, the disease can be detected far earlier and more accurately than the current biopsy pathway. This is all done from cells lifted off your mole with a simple pain-free adhesive sticker, not a scalpel.

Cancer starts when genes mutate within a cell. This altered cell duplicates and duplicates until enough cells exist to be seen under a microscope (and then, eventually, even without one). $DMTK’s genomic analysis can find these altered cancerous cells long before they show up under a microscope, through a proprietary gene expression test.




The expression test to search for PRAME and LINC00518 is done through an amplification process called RT-PCR (a polymerase chain reaction) that makes billions of copies of these genes so our scientists can study them in detail. When this analysis shows excessive levels of the PRAME and/or LINC00518 gene, it correlates with the presence of melanoma.

$DMTK’s genomic testing smart patches have been such a breakthrough they also have agreements with companies like Biogen, L'Oreal, and Johnson & Johnson to evaluate this technology in clinical trials for psoriasis, atopic dermatitis, acne and other skin conditions.



COLLECTION PROCESS:

If your doctor has identified a suspicious skin spot — one they would normally take a photograph of and track — now they can use the $DMTK test to rule out melanoma with 99% accuracy and better than the 83% accuracy of the current biopsy care pathways.

Once they have identified the spot, they’ll open the “Adhesive Skin Collection Kit” to begin the test. They’ll use the smart sticker to lift skin tissue off the spot by pressing, rubbing, and lifting the sticker. They’ll do this four times, placing each sticker on the collection strip.

The collections strips are then sent to the $DMTK lab in La Jolla, California where a team of experts and Clinical Laboratory Scientists (CLS) oversee a fully automated testing process. The $DMTK Gene Lab is the first and only commercial lab to extract nucleic acid (and other proteins) from non-invasive skin samples.




Results are sent to your physician in about 3 business days. Your doctor will use this information to choose the best path forward for your treatment. If the genomic markers are there, this will typically result in removal of the spot. If not, you’ve likely saved yourself a scar.






OLD WAY vs the NEW $DMTK WAY:

With millions of unnecessary biopsies occurring every year for suspicious pigmented lesions (moles) it’s pretty easy to understand why $DMTK’s non-invasive method is so attractive to both medical professionals and patients not to mention $DMTK’s smart patch is easier, faster, cheaper, pain-free and more accurate.






MARKET OPPORTUNITY:

Everyone reading this newsletter knows that every form of cancer is scary and potentially deadly but I didn’t realize how many cases of skin cancer were diagnosed every year.

Sadly the skin cancer market is one of the biggest and still growing quite rapidly. $DMTK has an opportunity to save countless lives over the next several decades with early detection of skin cancer so patients can get the treatment they need before this horrible disease spreads to other parts of their body.

$DMTK estimates their current PLA product plus additional pipeline products will address at least a $10 billion market.





PIPELINE:

$DMTK’s PLA test is their first commercial product but they have several more in the pipeline that are addressing equally as large markets in the skin disease and skin cancer industry.





TELEHEALTH:

$DMTK sells its products primarily to pathology and oncology practitioners however there’s an emerging opportunity (mostly thanks to Covid) to offer telehealth services with DTC (direct to consumer) kits whereby consumers would collect the samples off their bodies and ship them to the $DMTK Gene Lab for processing.





GROWTH STRATEGY:

Now that $DMTK has their viable PLA commercial product their challenge will be ramping up the sales team to go after the dermatology and oncology medical professionals. $DMTK ended 2020 with 40+ sales reps which gives them significant coverage in most major markets.




$DMTK has increased their marketing efforts as the pandemic comes to an end which means more dermatology offices will be able to function on a normal schedule. Since approximately half of all $DMTK patients are over the age of 60, the pandemic has had a clear impact on the older population being able to see their medical professionals in a timely manner.




$DMTK is doing more digital marketing with an emphasis on “find a specialist” to help drive traffic to the dermatology offices in their network [click here].

As of mid-2020, $DMTK’s smart patch test is now eligible for full reimbursed by Medicare at $760 per patch with private payor coverage on the horizon. At some point in the future $DMTK’s smart patch will be the new standard of care rather than just a better alternative.





FINANCIALS:

The current financials and revenue forecasts for $DMTK are nothing to get too excited about because we’re still dealing with small numbers compared to more established companies in the healthcare industry.

However I believe $DMTK could grow revenues at 100% per year for the next 3-5 years (maybe longer). I have spoken to several dermatologists over the past couple weeks and they all said that $DMTK’s new smart patch is an absolute game changer for them and their patients.

Based on $DMTK’s December 2020 estimate of 2,900 billable samples processed the 2021 revenue estimates of $12 million will end up being way too low if the company continues on this same run rate however given the number of new sales reps it’s likely this monthly sample processing number continues to increase as well.






CHARTS:

For my newsletter subscribers my goal is to find stocks under $10 billion market cap with huge growth potential and attractive entry prices (aka great time to buy).

I definitely think $DMTK is one of those companies however the stock has had a nice run over the past month after the National Comprehensive Cancer Network announced their support and inclusion of $DMTK’s testing patch in their guidelines. This was a massive accomplishment for $DMTK and really sets the foundation for a bright future.

Personally I am extremely bullish on this company so I’m not going to wait for any meaningful pullbacks, I will continue adding to my position aggressively. Of course I wish I had gotten into this stock earlier but I’m glad I found it a few weeks ago and started buying right away.

$DMTK has tripled over the past couple months but this was justified given all the positive news and endorsements from medical professionals/associations. I firmly believe $DMTK is the kind of stock that could triple again over the next 18-24 months.






TRIALS and INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY:

Whenever you are investing in the healthcare industry it’s important to take note of intellectual property, namely patents, that will protect the company going forward. Due to the company’s strong IP portfolio and solid pipeline I do wonder if they could be an acquisition target someday. These types of transactions are impossible to predict however with so many large pharmaceutical and biotech companies sitting on piles of cash it’s always a remote possibility.




MANAGEMENT:

$DMTK’s Management Team [click here], Board of Directors [click here] and Scientific Advisory Board [click here] are each very strong and loaded with extremely experienced and credible industry veterans including a slew of MD’s and PhDs.





SHAREHOLDERS:

I like when the shareholder base has a nice mix of retail, institutional and insider ownership. I’m glad that 12.3% of $DMTK outstanding shares are owned by insiders including the founder — this gives them some skin in the game (no pun intended).





ANALYSTS:

I was only able to find three analysts that cover $DMTK and currently all of them have buy recommendations with the highest price target at $52 per share — representing some significant upside from current prices in the high $30s.



CONCLUSION:

First off I want to remind everyone that your health should always be a top priority. We only have one body in our lifetimes so we need to do our best to take care of it however some things are just out of our control which is why it’s so important to get regular checkups and be proactive when something does look right or feel right.

Over the next year as I send out dozens of stock ideas and writeups, some of them will be more exciting and risky than others. I think $DMTK belongs in this category. Last week my stock idea was $BAND which I’m still a huge fan of but that’s a more conservative, less exciting growth stock that should be able to grow revenues at 30-40% per year but that stock will never triple in a year or 10x in 3-5 years but $DMTK has the potential to do that in my opinion. I’m no expert in biotech or genomics and never will be but I’ve done enough reading and researching on $DMTK to believe this company is going to be a massive winner going forward.

On a more personal level, one of my Uncles is having surgery this week to remove cancerous melanoma from his face and last week one of my other Uncles died from melanoma….so it’s safe to say this disease really hits home for me and has me scared about my own chances of getting this horrible disease. I'm grateful that companies like $DMTK are out there trying to save lives by giving doctors and patients better products to detect these diseases earlier so we can get the treatment we need.

$DMTK is not one of those companies you can try to value on price to sales multiple because the stock will always look outrageously expensive. You have to look longer-term and have conviction that $DMTK will revolutionize the skin cancer detection industry and if you believe that (like I do) then $DMTK could easily be a $10+ billion company within 5 years which would be approximately 10x higher from here.

$DMTK has already raised an additional $140 million this month so you probably don’t have to worry about another stock offering for 3-6 months.

$DMTK already has strong pipeline of non-invasive genomic based testing products they’ll be able to push through their growing network for dermatology and oncology practitioners.

$DMTK already has received blessing from the National Comprehensive Cancer Network — this is the gold standard in the industry when it comes to patient care and clinical best practices.

Bottom line, $DMTK has created a faster, easier, cheaper, non-invasive, pain-free, more accurate genomic-based testing approach for early detection of melanoma which will prevent millions of unnecessary biopsies every year. I also wonder how many people hate the idea of getting a biopsy so they don’t go to the doctor and then end up with an advanced form of skin cancer or melanoma which is too late to treat. This is where $DMTK’s current smart patch and other upcoming non-invasive products could make the biggest difference.

I currently have a 3.5% position in $DMTK and with some new cash coming into my account this week I have every intention of buying more $DMTK, especially at or below current prices. I believe $DMTK could be one of my best performing stocks over the next couple years.

 
Latest from Jonah Lupton

$DMTK - DermTech

Website: DermTech.com/

Stock price: $39.00

Market cap: $930 million

Enterprise value: $870 million

Founded: 1995

Founded by: John Dobak [LinkedIn]

IPO Date: $DMTK went public via SPAC in 2019 [click here]

HQ: La Jolla, California

Employees: 80+ including 40+ sales reps

  • 2019 revenues: $3 million
  • 2020 revenues (est): $6 million
  • 2021 revenues (est): $12 million
$DMTK 2020 Q3 Earnings Report [read here]

Video of sample collection [watch here]

DermTech announces results of TRUST study [click here]

Presentation at ICR Conference, January 2020 [watch here]

Presentation at Canaccord Genuity MedTech Forum, November 2020 [watch here]

Presentation at Stifel Healthcare Conference, November 2020 [click here]

$DMTK announces $143.7 million stock offering on January 11th, 2021 [read here]

$DMTK announces inclusion of their genomic testing patch in the National Comprehensive Cancer Network [read here]




$DMTK - DermTech

DermTech ($DMTK) is a molecular diagnostics company that develops and markets non-invasive diagnostic tests to diagnose skin cancer and other skin related conditions. The company offers Pigmented Lesion Assay (PLA), a gene expression test that helps rule out melanoma and the need for a surgical biopsy. $DMTK also provides the Nevome test, an adjunctive reflex test for the PLA and adhesive skin sample collection kits, as well as gene expression assays for the Th1, Th2, IFN-gamma, and Th17 inflammatory pathways. $DMTK is also developing non-melanoma skin cancer diagnostic and non-melanoma skin cancer risk assessment products. The $DMTK Melanoma Test is a new kind of lab test that looks for signs of melanoma in your skin’s genomic material.




With the traditional biopsy care pathway, clinicians use their eyes — aided by a microscope — to see physical changes to a mole (aka pigmented lesion), and the cells within it. If the dermatologist is concerned with the mole they will order a biopsy, performed with a scalpel.




The $DMTK test uses a gene expression test to analyze the RNA inside those cells.

Since the $DMTK testing method can find indications of melanoma at this more precise level, the disease can be detected far earlier and more accurately than the current biopsy pathway. This is all done from cells lifted off your mole with a simple pain-free adhesive sticker, not a scalpel.

Cancer starts when genes mutate within a cell. This altered cell duplicates and duplicates until enough cells exist to be seen under a microscope (and then, eventually, even without one). $DMTK’s genomic analysis can find these altered cancerous cells long before they show up under a microscope, through a proprietary gene expression test.




The expression test to search for PRAME and LINC00518 is done through an amplification process called RT-PCR (a polymerase chain reaction) that makes billions of copies of these genes so our scientists can study them in detail. When this analysis shows excessive levels of the PRAME and/or LINC00518 gene, it correlates with the presence of melanoma.

$DMTK’s genomic testing smart patches have been such a breakthrough they also have agreements with companies like Biogen, L'Oreal, and Johnson & Johnson to evaluate this technology in clinical trials for psoriasis, atopic dermatitis, acne and other skin conditions.



COLLECTION PROCESS:

If your doctor has identified a suspicious skin spot — one they would normally take a photograph of and track — now they can use the $DMTK test to rule out melanoma with 99% accuracy and better than the 83% accuracy of the current biopsy care pathways.

Once they have identified the spot, they’ll open the “Adhesive Skin Collection Kit” to begin the test. They’ll use the smart sticker to lift skin tissue off the spot by pressing, rubbing, and lifting the sticker. They’ll do this four times, placing each sticker on the collection strip.

The collections strips are then sent to the $DMTK lab in La Jolla, California where a team of experts and Clinical Laboratory Scientists (CLS) oversee a fully automated testing process. The $DMTK Gene Lab is the first and only commercial lab to extract nucleic acid (and other proteins) from non-invasive skin samples.




Results are sent to your physician in about 3 business days. Your doctor will use this information to choose the best path forward for your treatment. If the genomic markers are there, this will typically result in removal of the spot. If not, you’ve likely saved yourself a scar.






OLD WAY vs the NEW $DMTK WAY:

With millions of unnecessary biopsies occurring every year for suspicious pigmented lesions (moles) it’s pretty easy to understand why $DMTK’s non-invasive method is so attractive to both medical professionals and patients not to mention $DMTK’s smart patch is easier, faster, cheaper, pain-free and more accurate.






MARKET OPPORTUNITY:

Everyone reading this newsletter knows that every form of cancer is scary and potentially deadly but I didn’t realize how many cases of skin cancer were diagnosed every year.

Sadly the skin cancer market is one of the biggest and still growing quite rapidly. $DMTK has an opportunity to save countless lives over the next several decades with early detection of skin cancer so patients can get the treatment they need before this horrible disease spreads to other parts of their body.

$DMTK estimates their current PLA product plus additional pipeline products will address at least a $10 billion market.





PIPELINE:

$DMTK’s PLA test is their first commercial product but they have several more in the pipeline that are addressing equally as large markets in the skin disease and skin cancer industry.





TELEHEALTH:

$DMTK sells its products primarily to pathology and oncology practitioners however there’s an emerging opportunity (mostly thanks to Covid) to offer telehealth services with DTC (direct to consumer) kits whereby consumers would collect the samples off their bodies and ship them to the $DMTK Gene Lab for processing.





GROWTH STRATEGY:

Now that $DMTK has their viable PLA commercial product their challenge will be ramping up the sales team to go after the dermatology and oncology medical professionals. $DMTK ended 2020 with 40+ sales reps which gives them significant coverage in most major markets.




$DMTK has increased their marketing efforts as the pandemic comes to an end which means more dermatology offices will be able to function on a normal schedule. Since approximately half of all $DMTK patients are over the age of 60, the pandemic has had a clear impact on the older population being able to see their medical professionals in a timely manner.




$DMTK is doing more digital marketing with an emphasis on “find a specialist” to help drive traffic to the dermatology offices in their network [click here].

As of mid-2020, $DMTK’s smart patch test is now eligible for full reimbursed by Medicare at $760 per patch with private payor coverage on the horizon. At some point in the future $DMTK’s smart patch will be the new standard of care rather than just a better alternative.





FINANCIALS:

The current financials and revenue forecasts for $DMTK are nothing to get too excited about because we’re still dealing with small numbers compared to more established companies in the healthcare industry.

However I believe $DMTK could grow revenues at 100% per year for the next 3-5 years (maybe longer). I have spoken to several dermatologists over the past couple weeks and they all said that $DMTK’s new smart patch is an absolute game changer for them and their patients.

Based on $DMTK’s December 2020 estimate of 2,900 billable samples processed the 2021 revenue estimates of $12 million will end up being way too low if the company continues on this same run rate however given the number of new sales reps it’s likely this monthly sample processing number continues to increase as well.






CHARTS:

For my newsletter subscribers my goal is to find stocks under $10 billion market cap with huge growth potential and attractive entry prices (aka great time to buy).

I definitely think $DMTK is one of those companies however the stock has had a nice run over the past month after the National Comprehensive Cancer Network announced their support and inclusion of $DMTK’s testing patch in their guidelines. This was a massive accomplishment for $DMTK and really sets the foundation for a bright future.

Personally I am extremely bullish on this company so I’m not going to wait for any meaningful pullbacks, I will continue adding to my position aggressively. Of course I wish I had gotten into this stock earlier but I’m glad I found it a few weeks ago and started buying right away.

$DMTK has tripled over the past couple months but this was justified given all the positive news and endorsements from medical professionals/associations. I firmly believe $DMTK is the kind of stock that could triple again over the next 18-24 months.






TRIALS and INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY:

Whenever you are investing in the healthcare industry it’s important to take note of intellectual property, namely patents, that will protect the company going forward. Due to the company’s strong IP portfolio and solid pipeline I do wonder if they could be an acquisition target someday. These types of transactions are impossible to predict however with so many large pharmaceutical and biotech companies sitting on piles of cash it’s always a remote possibility.




MANAGEMENT:

$DMTK’s Management Team [click here], Board of Directors [click here] and Scientific Advisory Board [click here] are each very strong and loaded with extremely experienced and credible industry veterans including a slew of MD’s and PhDs.





SHAREHOLDERS:

I like when the shareholder base has a nice mix of retail, institutional and insider ownership. I’m glad that 12.3% of $DMTK outstanding shares are owned by insiders including the founder — this gives them some skin in the game (no pun intended).





ANALYSTS:

I was only able to find three analysts that cover $DMTK and currently all of them have buy recommendations with the highest price target at $52 per share — representing some significant upside from current prices in the high $30s.



CONCLUSION:

First off I want to remind everyone that your health should always be a top priority. We only have one body in our lifetimes so we need to do our best to take care of it however some things are just out of our control which is why it’s so important to get regular checkups and be proactive when something does look right or feel right.

Over the next year as I send out dozens of stock ideas and writeups, some of them will be more exciting and risky than others. I think $DMTK belongs in this category. Last week my stock idea was $BAND which I’m still a huge fan of but that’s a more conservative, less exciting growth stock that should be able to grow revenues at 30-40% per year but that stock will never triple in a year or 10x in 3-5 years but $DMTK has the potential to do that in my opinion. I’m no expert in biotech or genomics and never will be but I’ve done enough reading and researching on $DMTK to believe this company is going to be a massive winner going forward.

On a more personal level, one of my Uncles is having surgery this week to remove cancerous melanoma from his face and last week one of my other Uncles died from melanoma….so it’s safe to say this disease really hits home for me and has me scared about my own chances of getting this horrible disease. I'm grateful that companies like $DMTK are out there trying to save lives by giving doctors and patients better products to detect these diseases earlier so we can get the treatment we need.

$DMTK is not one of those companies you can try to value on price to sales multiple because the stock will always look outrageously expensive. You have to look longer-term and have conviction that $DMTK will revolutionize the skin cancer detection industry and if you believe that (like I do) then $DMTK could easily be a $10+ billion company within 5 years which would be approximately 10x higher from here.

$DMTK has already raised an additional $140 million this month so you probably don’t have to worry about another stock offering for 3-6 months.

$DMTK already has strong pipeline of non-invasive genomic based testing products they’ll be able to push through their growing network for dermatology and oncology practitioners.

$DMTK already has received blessing from the National Comprehensive Cancer Network — this is the gold standard in the industry when it comes to patient care and clinical best practices.

Bottom line, $DMTK has created a faster, easier, cheaper, non-invasive, pain-free, more accurate genomic-based testing approach for early detection of melanoma which will prevent millions of unnecessary biopsies every year. I also wonder how many people hate the idea of getting a biopsy so they don’t go to the doctor and then end up with an advanced form of skin cancer or melanoma which is too late to treat. This is where $DMTK’s current smart patch and other upcoming non-invasive products could make the biggest difference.

I currently have a 3.5% position in $DMTK and with some new cash coming into my account this week I have every intention of buying more $DMTK, especially at or below current prices. I believe $DMTK could be one of my best performing stocks over the next couple years.

Thanks fam.

Sold GDRX out today to get the size in TDOC I wanted. 7% position now, 20 shares, let's ride this to $100 billion MC, then trillion in 10 years.
 
I’m seriously going to have to start investing and getting some dividend payments

I don’t se me doing this in my older years :lol: :lol: :lol:
about to have a stroke but strong hand prevailed today
 
Just picked up a couple hundred of INUV

You think it will go up even more after tomorrow?

also what are u guys banking on going up after we get our new prez?
 
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