People blaming economy on Obama... R U SERIOUS

So SUNDOOBIE who are you slurping??? TBONE?? Fede??? Or do you get your news from absolutely yourself....


1. Economy was going to get worse before it got better. It is 2 months into his actions let it pan out... He has taken action more than what Bush did and morethan what McCain would have....If you believed that two months in we'd be even 10% drop of the Dow you are an ignoramus.

2. By fall is the date... He doesn't work on whims and is a practicalist, he says a timeframe, you say a date and it doesn't happen it is a problem.Whether that 17,000 was needed or not... So by fall starts to get new strategy rolling without those troops and then they are pulled out when it isimplemented.. War is chess son... With a wife in the military you should know that.

3. Afghanistan was going to be higher troop levels everyone knew it... He said it in debates and whenever Afghanistan was brought up

4. Stimulus plan, yes I am happy that the stimulus plan was passed. Would be easier to temporarily nationalize the banks but take it with a grain of salt. Butinfrastructure jobs have already been started in my city because of it. Also starts the transition we need to Green energy.

5. Gitmo is closing within the year... Are you an idiot until it has closed it is still open. Therefore people will be in and out. Also those who have torturedsince Obama came in are unauthorized torture unlike under Bush it was authorized. So those soldiers should be punished if not then I have a problem.

6. Extraordinary Rendition and Rendition are two different things. Extraordinary is without warrants and no notification to family and no charges put to thosetaken. Rendition is a practice done all over the world to get criminals who flee their country with warrants. Or those who are threat to sed country.. Warrantsbeing the key.. Obama never said rendition would end... End rendition good luck protecting yourself.

7. Believe me I know he hushed that ruling. BUT he doesn't want to charge Bush... It is a bad move politically and a bad move for the country regardless ofhow bad everyone including myself want him tried.. If that ruling was made it adds to the fire against Bush and doesn't help the chances of him beingcharged with war crimes... If you don't see why that was done please be more informed to common sense buddy.

8. Tell that to 48 million who are not insured.. Tell that to the country who are getting F'd by insurance companies.


You may have "voted" for Obama... But you go an awful far way to find ways he lied when it isn't the case.

You must feel jaded over something...

You just go with half- truths and say AHA Obama lied, worst president ever.. Politics like war is a chess match.... You won't get everything you want butif you're getting 70% it is very good and successful


Also you "campaigned" for him.. If that's the case you should have better understood those policies. If you did you would have expected damn near100% of what he has proposed.
 
all I'm saying is that I used to get hours at work when bush was president
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Originally Posted by Rpappy6

It is only going to get worse before it starts to get better, but Obama had nothing to do with getting us in this mess.
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OBAMA LIED, THE ECONOMY DIED.




That's all I'm saying in this thread. Obama promised NO "earmarks", NO "big Gov't", he would go "line-by-line".


Obama = Socialist
 
Dont let it phase you.

The current president is the symbolic leader of the nation. Anything thats bad will come back to him. No point in letting it get you mad.
 
Originally Posted by duerr

Dude ran on a platform of "yes we can" in regards to the economy, united states perceptions overseas, a "transparent" administration, and wrapping up the conflict in Iraq....he gets elected and starts to packpedal on everything.

Who cares what republicans think anyway ? The president can do whatever he wants without a shred of republican approval.

It's the Democrats that should be getting heated....you hired the guy, and he's not performing....are you really mad at republicans for calling him out on it, or mad at homeboy for letting you down ?

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I've got a feeling that Obamas election is going to disenfranchise a whole generation of voters...

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I spoke to my wife yesterday and everyone under her command are pissed off right now that no actual dates were stated on the manifest.
Um I suppose they were happier looking down a tunnel with no light at the end?
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Believe me I been "over there" and knowing that there is an actual plan is better than believing you are NEVER leaving.
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Leave Obama alone, Bush was an epic fail, he sent us into a war where countless brothers and sisters of OURS are killed in the sand. Why did he do it? Westill don't know because he lied to us from the start and the only people to profit from this "Attack" are Saudis and the elite rich. Seems to meObama has his plate full, he's not on vacation with
his armadillo hunting dog, he's not seen taking pictures hugging Saudi royalty and he DEFINITELY DOESN'T FOLLOW SOMEONE ELSES AGENDA!! Obama is YOURcommander now, Bow Down.
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Don't be blinded by some commentators on the right trying to push blame on Obama, NBC/WSJ did a poll and 87% of American said that Obama inherited thecurrent crisis. So watching channels like Fox News and articles by commentators on the right would have many thinkin Obama is to blame. People gotta rememberif you watched Fox News and etc all day during the elections you would think Obama was gonna lose by 6% to McCain they were piling on everything as they aredoing now to hurt his credability. They hit you with overused phrase "the Markets have dropped __% since Obama took office" and fail to mention thatthe DOW dropped 6000 points from Jan 08 to Oct 08. The unemployment rate in Jan 2008 was 4.9 its March 2009 and our unemployment rate is 8.1 and increasing....2.6 Million jobs were lost in 2008. We have been in a recession since December 2007 so how any sane person can blamethe slumping economy on Obama is moronic... its all just a way of trying to shift blame. Until large segments of the stimulus bill become implemented in theeconomy this isn't Obama's economy as of yet. August-September is when you can officially start to say this is Obama's economy so any high job lossor poor performing markets will be Obama's ownership.
 
Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE


5. Gitmo - It's close.. it's close. NO wait.. it's still open because what to do with all the prisoners? Hmmmmm???
Let me quote Binyam Mohamed, the first detainee to be transferred out of Guantanamo Bay since Obama took office.

http://www.google.com/hos...1uCPmjbJrjlnr20okZpghUcg
"Since the election it's got harsher," Mohamed told the newspaper. "The guards would say, 'yes, this place is going to close down,' but it was like they wanted to take their last revenge."


"He said his chest and penis were slashed with razors while he was held in Morocco."

Oh snap!
 
Originally Posted by duerr

Dude ran on a platform of "yes we can" in regards to the economy, united states perceptions overseas, a "transparent" administration, and wrapping up the conflict in Iraq....he gets elected and starts to packpedal on everything.

Who cares what republicans think anyway ? The president can do whatever he wants without a shred of republican approval.

It's the Democrats that should be getting heated....you hired the guy, and he's not performing....are you really mad at republicans for calling him out on it, or mad at homeboy for letting you down ?

...

I've got a feeling that Obamas election is going to disenfranchise a whole generation of voters...


Typical republican.
 
some people just have no clue about what is goin on in the economy ... something tells me its the same amount of people that voted for obama in the firstplace ...

people saying "its only two months in, its only two months in!" dont understand what the hell these policies are doing ... straight CRIPPLING theinfrastructure of the US economy is not a good look ...
I don't really know about anyone else but the economy wasn't all he ran on.
yeah and its great that hes delivering on everything else BUT the most important issue
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... like hey i ruined our economy but at least i lifted the ban on stem cells... ... ...
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1. Economy (it is too early to call.. better than doing nothing) did what he said
2. Iraq (extremely pleased) did what he said
3. Afghanistan (had to be done when knowing the details so I'm pleased) did what he said
4. Stimulus plan (i am all around happy) did what he said
5. Gitmo (happy) did what he said
6. Ended extraordinary rendition (happy) did what he said
7. Limited patriot act no spying on America citizens without warrant, no wrongful imprisonment (happy) did what he said
8. Started the convo about health care (happy) did what he said
9. Ending don't ask don't tell (good civil liberties move, approved) did what he said
10. Lifts ban on stem cell (highly appreciated) did what he said
11. Working on the environment (greatly appreciated) did what he said



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Originally Posted by duerr

I know I'm posting a lot, but I think the better question is;

Why do Democrats give a !@@% what Republicans think, anyhow ? Republicans technically have no power right now, so why would any of the current administration (house/senate dems included) really care too much what Republicans have to say right now ?

Originally Posted by SpeakUp23

70% of people are ******ed


guy answered your post before u even posted
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, its cause democrats try to do this "lets do something we can all agree on" BS while republicans know how it is
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when it comes to not playing ball
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Originally Posted by KB8sandiego

Originally Posted by SpeakUp23

70% of people are ******ed
I wonder how many of that percent voted for Obama.
certainly you aren't trying to insinuate the Obama is a scret-muslim-terrorist-who-isn't-a-citizen-of-America crowd are deemed the smartervoters.
 
actually what's funny is it hasn't even been 21 days since his economic plan was passed, PEOPLE SHOWING THEIR HATRED FTL
 
yes, this is truly annoying. no way the GOP could fix this problem so they are prob happy they lost so they can just sit back and knock everything he does. allalong forgetting to mention why we are here in the first place. pisses me off like nothing else. i may be white, but I am sick of wealthy, white, old, greyhaired, bald men running the country/world.
 
again ... anyone who thinks it is too early doesnt undrstand a lick of whats going on in the economy ... this is not all of a sudden going to get better or besaved by this economic plan, its just going to delay the inevitable ...
 
Originally Posted by LilStarZ07

again ... anyone who thinks it is too early doesnt undrstand a lick of whats going on in the economy ... this is not all of a sudden going to get better or be saved by this economic plan, its just going to delay the inevitable ...


You are making yourself sound very dumb.
 
why is that? what makes you think you know whats going on? if you really want me to get into it i will but if you want to understand where im coming askyourself this question ... when has this type of economic policy EVER worked anywhere in the world to recover from a recession? google it, enclopedia it,wikipedia it, whatever it ...
 
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