Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[3stheluckynumbe]

uh...and?

You got a cape on and aren’t making valid arguments.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

What's "coming out today?" Kendricks been mainstream for like 15 years.

if you the comment i'm quoting. he thought "If you are black rapper that codes as lower class you pretty much have a free rein to do whatever."

he thought I was saying this was true for the entire history of hip-hop, im clarifying the comment was referencing contemporary times.

"coming out today" is making it clear i'm talking about contemporary music criticism.

 

[RIP sleazyy]

Thats fine, but more people will making the sticking point of revealing he had a child as what made the track.

ima be honest the people I see saying that the most are the people downplaying the rest of the track

there’s a reason the culture bars and white boy jokes are hitting so hard

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

I’ve never seen anyone that listens to J Cole accuse him of misogyny. Have you ever listened to Young Thug? You have to critique that on a curve cuz he isn’t using real words half the time

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You got a cape on and aren’t making valid arguments.

im not making valid arguments? but "You from Canada" is? got it. ill try to do better.


and who do i have a cape on for exactly?

 

[Based Jesus]

Should've never let Canadians in rap. Bad enough we let them have basketball, James Naismith left for a reason

 

[alexody]

We discussing R&B songs played in social settings to justify something as a "rap" classic??

My day is ruined because I had to be reminded 'Practice' exists

 

[tr1ll]

I’ve never seen anyone that listens to J Cole accuse him of misogyny. Have you ever listened to Young Thug? You have to critique that on a curve cuz he isn’t using real words half the time

Nowadays 'some women aint ****' = misogyny.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Jcole has this same issue, way more has been written about his alleged misogyny then Young Thug for example.

by any objective measure Jcole is less misogynistic than the average rapper.
but he is treated more seriously...because imo he codes as middle class.

No, it's because Cole markets himself as a more "conscious" rapper than Young ****ing Thug Nobody expects the guy who raps about gang banging and killing people to give you some deep take on misogyny, be forreal.

But also, these think pieces mean absolutely nothing in the real world. Nobody has stopped listening to any of these artists because of them, I've never heard it brought up by anybody in regular conversation. Anybody can put anything on the internet, it doesn't mean ppl care.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

uh...and?

You don't understand the importance of pointing out somebody that's phony. "Acting black" "begging for acceptance" is rampant right now on black america with outsiders.

 

[art vandelay]

Everytime I hear/see someone mention Drake and Canada all I can think about is Common’s line:”you ain’t wet nobody *****, you Canada Dry”

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

im not making valid arguments? but "You from Canada" is? got it. ill try to do better.


and who do i have a cape on for exactly?

You seem to have a cape on for Canadians.. maybe for half black guys with identity issues

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I’ve never seen anyone that listens to J Cole accuse him of misogyny. Have you ever listened to Young Thug? You have to critique that on a curve cuz he isn’t using real words half the time

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You seem to have a cape on for Canadians.. maybe for half black guys with identity issues

what cape? i said the diss was good, and this criticism doesn't really apply to the diss or kendrick?

who am i caping for?

 

[raider5]

The more i listen to Euphoria the more I **** with it

cant quite say the same for Push Ups IMO.

 

[letsgetit22]

if you the comment i'm quoting. he thought "If you are black rapper that codes as lower class you pretty much have a free rein to do whatever."

he thought I was saying this was true for the entire history of hip-hop, im clarifying the comment was referencing contemporary times.

"coming out today" is making it clear i'm talking about contemporary music criticism.

Oh.
You posted articles about Drake and Jcole being called misogynist, to prove a point. Did you miss all the ones about Kendrick being called a misogynist as well? What about the ones about him being called homophobic and transphobic?
All rappers get called misogynistic at some point.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You don't understand the importance of pointing out somebody that's phony. "Acting black" "begging for acceptance" is rampant right now on black america with outsiders.

ah yes because we all know when you cross 49th parallel people instantly lose the ability to understand the concept of "Acting black" "begging for acceptance"

ive never heard of those concepts untill i came to america. just totally foreign.

americans are the best

 

[frshstunna]

Making a J Cole/ Young thug comparison to paint a picture that Drake is being treated unfairly is nastee work

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

No Role Modelz isn’t a misogynistic song, and if it is, on the spectrum of offensiveness it’s on the shallow end. When did you start listening to Hip Hop?

 

[JMB10215]

What makes an album a classic to you? And please explain how any of Drakes album meet that criteria?

An album that impacts the culture, sells well, people like it in real life, somewhat critically liked as well, and continues to get played way past its time.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Oh.
You posted articles about Drake and Jcole being called misogynist, to prove a point. Did you miss all the ones about Kendrick being called a misogynist as well? What about the ones about him being called homophobic and transphobic?
All rappers get called misogynistic at some point.

there's less of them then there is for Drake or J Cole.

and add on the fact that Kendrick bills himself as an explicitly political rapper.
imo there should be more scrutiny not less.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

No Role Modelz isn’t a misogynistic song, and if it is, on the spectrum of offensiveness it’s on the shallow end. When did you start listening to Hip Hop?

well yah that's my point.

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

well yah that's my point.

Again, your point is invalid.

You spoke about how one from a perceived middle class was more heavily criticized than someone from a lower class. Your example was “J Cole is a misogynist” articles, when he’s not. It’s okay to relate with Aubrey, that doesn’t make you a bad person. Just recognize why he resonates with you.

 

[JMB10215]

Kennys track gets better with every play. Ima just focus on the track, because tweakin with the Drake takes. The most streamed rapper has no classics. Well wtf have be been listening to these last 16 years lmaoo. Yall got it

 

[Maximus Meridius]

ah yes because we all know when you cross 49th parallel people instantly lose the ability to understand the concept of "Acting black" "begging for acceptance"

ive never heard of those concepts untill i came to america. just totally foreign.

americans are the best

For you not to understand calling phony people out shows you either not black or maybe are but have a disconnect.

Now that I'm familiar with your history it adds up