Refresh my memory on SQUATS

[mez 0ne]

......and make sure you avoid leg extensions if you have knee issues as well.

Dumbbell squats are money especially with toe raises at the peak of each squat.

Plyometrics is also a great way to work out your legs without any weights.

 

[blaxoid]

Squats have really helped me strengthen my knees after being diagnosed with Jumpers Knee. Don't be afraid to do them if you have bad knees - as long as youlearn the proper form they can be very beneficial.

Try to record yourself to check your form. I go bare bar with hands as close to head as possible, foot stance slightly wider than shoulders.

Here's a good page with lots of info on them: http://stronglifts.com/how-to-squat-with-proper-technique-fix-common-problems/

 

[DPancakes]

Absolutely my favorite exercise is the barbell squat. Either $!+-to-grass or box squats will get you more explosive.

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

Do NOT listen to this.

Do not listen to what? Facts are facts, if you have bad knees you should NOT be doing squats, and I would NOT jump into squats after a year out of the gym, dudes on this board are so funny.

OP never said he had bad knees. Of course its fine to jump right back into squats even after a long time off. The weight wont be the same, but theres no harm in going right back to the exercise.

I wasnt trying to be funny. I simply made a statement that the advice you gave was poor.

OP did say he had to get his knees checked out, if you didn't have knee problems or had some concern regarding your knees you wouldn't need to get your knees checked out. personally if i have been out of the gym for a year with minimal activity i would not start with squats, as i stated earlier in this thread i would try a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do some negative squats using only your body weight just to ease you into it and minimize any injuries

He said he had to get his knees look at AFTER you made your original comment to stay away. You made your comment thinking he was perfectly healthy.

As long as the weight on the bar is appropriate and form is fine theres NO injury risk doing squats. Explain to me what the injury risk is of squats.

Just because YOU think youre going to get injuried doing it doesnt mean that everyone else will.

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

Do NOT listen to this.

Do not listen to what? Facts are facts, if you have bad knees you should NOT be doing squats, and I would NOT jump into squats after a year out of the gym, dudes on this board are so funny.

OP never said he had bad knees. Of course its fine to jump right back into squats even after a long time off. The weight wont be the same, but theres no harm in going right back to the exercise.

I wasnt trying to be funny. I simply made a statement that the advice you gave was poor.

OP did say he had to get his knees checked out, if you didn't have knee problems or had some concern regarding your knees you wouldn't need to get your knees checked out. personally if i have been out of the gym for a year with minimal activity i would not start with squats, as i stated earlier in this thread i would try a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do some negative squats using only your body weight just to ease you into it and minimize any injuries

He said he had to get his knees look at AFTER you made your original comment to stay away. You made your comment thinking he was perfectly healthy.

As long as the weight on the bar is appropriate and form is fine theres NO injury risk doing squats. Explain to me what the injury risk is of squats.

Just because YOU think youre going to get injuried doing it doesnt mean that everyone else will.

You obviously did not read my first comment i said "I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt yourback and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar justa different feel." Notice i stated IF YOUR FORM IS OFF YOU CAN HURT YOUR BACK AND YOUR KNEES, i didn't state that just because he did this particularexercise that is going to happen but as someone that has SERIOUSLY trained for over 14 years I've seen more people doing it wrong than doing it right whenyou've been out of commission for a while I would not jump back into that exercise immediately. Personally I wouldn't do squats at all, my kneeshaven't been that great for years due to injury and I prefer leg presses

 

[doyung9]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

Do NOT listen to this.

Do not listen to what? Facts are facts, if you have bad knees you should NOT be doing squats, and I would NOT jump into squats after a year out of the gym, dudes on this board are so funny.

Misconception.

I strained my MCL 8 years ago when I was a sophomore in HS playing basketball, and from then until this year, I never did squats ever again all because I had a "bad knee".

That's an EXCUSE

Three months ago, I realized the only thing holding me back in the gym was ME, added squats back into my routine. Best workout decision ever. I'm quicker, stronger, and faster than I was when I was 18, when I was in much better "athletic" shape than I am now.

Unless you have that Alvin Mack from The Program knee injury, you don't have a bad enough knee not to do squats. Matter of fact, it's having a bad back that you would really need to have concern over. My roommate had never done squats in his life when he started doing them with me. And while he struggled, had to use very very light weight and get used to it, he does them now.

How old are you? Give it some time I know more than a few people that have had to have knee surgery on both knees, say what you want some people just don't have the genetics if you do more power to you a lot can change in a short time TRUST me on that.

22.

But seriously, age should not matter. I know 50 year old men who do squats. They do them correctly, of course. Seriously, you sound like one of those guys inthe gym who makes excuses. "My genetics don't let me get bigger" or "I don't go down all the way on squats because of my badknee"...

And for the record, I know a guy who tore his MCL, ACL, and PCL, all at once in a wakeboarding accident, and he continues to do squats, as recommended by hisDOCTOR.

All we're trying to say is squats, when done with correct form, technique, and appropriate weight, offer NO risk of injury.

 

[i3]

Squats are a beautiful thing.

If you really want some explosivity then squats, lunges, deadlifts are the way to go. IMO I was also scared of hurting my knees, back etc. qith squats, but itsjust a matter of practising correct form and using the appropriate weight.

Hell, I just started with a SMITH machine, got up to around 110lbs, then decided I was ready for the barbell. Little did I know it was a totally differentsensation as there was more focus on self-stability and balance - so I ended up just squatting the bar. About a year later im squatting 170lbs ATG 3x10 and Iweigh in at a !!@# 135lbs. My goal is to get to maybe 200lbs by end of year mid next year.

 

[N41D]

Originally Posted by Mez 0ne

Dumbbell squats are money especially with toe raises at the peak of each squat.

Yep... I've been doing them that way ever since my injury... It's probably a mental block, but I just don't like getting under the barand doing them that way anymore...

I do lunges with dumbbells too, even though I see a lot of dudes doing them with the bar...

 

[got shoes]

Love and Hate squats. Lunges and deadlifts are necessary also.

 

[scofosho]

i was afraid of squats for the longest time. ive had 2 knee surgeries and have a partially torn acl at the momment. i started doing squats again about 3 monthsago. i was doing only the bar. now im up to 195 with perfect form. my knees are getting stronger and hurt far less than ever before. there is no need to put alot of weight on ur squats tho. as long as you have proper form you will be fine. you can do squats with the bench at ur butt or ball squats. they are alleffective. lunges are hardest for me though.

 

[trethousandgt]

Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

Do NOT listen to this.

Do not listen to what? Facts are facts, if you have bad knees you should NOT be doing squats, and I would NOT jump into squats after a year out of the gym, dudes on this board are so funny.

Misconception.

I strained my MCL 8 years ago when I was a sophomore in HS playing basketball, and from then until this year, I never did squats ever again all because I had a "bad knee".

That's an EXCUSE

Three months ago, I realized the only thing holding me back in the gym was ME, added squats back into my routine. Best workout decision ever. I'm quicker, stronger, and faster than I was when I was 18, when I was in much better "athletic" shape than I am now.

Unless you have that Alvin Mack from The Program knee injury, you don't have a bad enough knee not to do squats. Matter of fact, it's having a bad back that you would really need to have concern over. My roommate had never done squats in his life when he started doing them with me. And while he struggled, had to use very very light weight and get used to it, he does them now.

How old are you? Give it some time I know more than a few people that have had to have knee surgery on both knees, say what you want some people just don't have the genetics if you do more power to you a lot can change in a short time TRUST me on that.

22.

But seriously, age should not matter. I know 50 year old men who do squats. They do them correctly, of course. Seriously, you sound like one of those guys in the gym who makes excuses. "My genetics don't let me get bigger" or "I don't go down all the way on squats because of my bad knee"...

And for the record, I know a guy who tore his MCL, ACL, and PCL, all at once in a wakeboarding accident, and he continues to do squats, as recommended by his DOCTOR.

All we're trying to say is squats, when done with correct form, technique, and appropriate weight, offer NO risk of injury.

Are you serious? Genetics have no influence on you getting bigger than the next man? Thats an excuse?

what a joke. Genetics have ALOOOOOOOOT to do withyour max potential and how you should train thank you for that laugh. Heres some information YOU need to read because its obvious you have A LOT of learning todo. http://www.projectswole.com/weight-training/body-types-mesomorph-ectomorph-endomorph/

 

[rafool]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

This.

Even though it's not a good thing for me to do, I avoid them when I can.

 

[superbowlhomeboy217]

Anyone who doesn't think squats are at least a top three exercise (debatable between squats, dl, and pull up) for getting strong, doesn't know anythingabout working out.

Squats don't hurt your knees. Doing squats wrong hurts them.

The most important thing to remember is that you need good form. Make sure your knees don't extend past your toes and you keep your eyes on the ceiling.Also, get low. I see too many dudes at the gym doing quarter squats and not getting anywhere.

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

Do NOT listen to this.

Do not listen to what? Facts are facts, if you have bad knees you should NOT be doing squats, and I would NOT jump into squats after a year out of the gym, dudes on this board are so funny.

OP never said he had bad knees. Of course its fine to jump right back into squats even after a long time off. The weight wont be the same, but theres no harm in going right back to the exercise.

I wasnt trying to be funny. I simply made a statement that the advice you gave was poor.

OP did say he had to get his knees checked out, if you didn't have knee problems or had some concern regarding your knees you wouldn't need to get your knees checked out. personally if i have been out of the gym for a year with minimal activity i would not start with squats, as i stated earlier in this thread i would try a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do some negative squats using only your body weight just to ease you into it and minimize any injuries

He said he had to get his knees look at AFTER you made your original comment to stay away. You made your comment thinking he was perfectly healthy.

As long as the weight on the bar is appropriate and form is fine theres NO injury risk doing squats. Explain to me what the injury risk is of squats.

Just because YOU think youre going to get injuried doing it doesnt mean that everyone else will.

You obviously did not read my first comment i said "I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel." Notice i stated IF YOUR FORM IS OFF YOU CAN HURT YOUR BACK AND YOUR KNEES, i didn't state that just because he did this particular exercise that is going to happen but as someone that has SERIOUSLY trained for over 14 years I've seen more people doing it wrong than doing it right when you've been out of commission for a while I would not jump back into that exercise immediately. Personally I wouldn't do squats at all, my knees haven't been that great for years due to injury and I prefer leg presses

So your advice should have been "theyre fine as long as your form is correct" not "dont do them". Theres a big difference between the twobut you took the liberty to just blindly say dont do them. Just because you havent done them in rouhgly a decade doesnt mean theyre bad for people to do.

Its your advice that was poor.

Heres some information YOU need to read because its obvious you have A LOT of learning to do
You obviously dont get what he was trying to say....

 

[trethousandgt]

^^^ no because i also stated that he has been out of the gym for a while and should start off with a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do somenegative squats using only his body weight just to ease him into it and minimize any injuries, your the dude just pumping out random crap without a logicalapproach and that genetics thing just sealed it for me.

 

[durden7]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

^^^ no because i also stated that he has been out of the gym for a while and should start off with a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do some negative squats using only his body weight just to ease him into it and minimize any injuries, your the dude just pumping out random crap without a logical approach and that genetics thing just sealed it for me.

You said all of that AFTER your initial post. You found out information AFTER you originally said dont do them.

What random crap am i pumping out? Any examples? Ahhh yes, that genetics thing... because obviously what I said showed you that im just saying random crap.

You dont get it.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Originally Posted by Durden7

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

^^^ no because i also stated that he has been out of the gym for a while and should start off with a partial squat using dumbbells and a bench and do some negative squats using only his body weight just to ease him into it and minimize any injuries, your the dude just pumping out random crap without a logical approach and that genetics thing just sealed it for me.

You said all of that AFTER your initial post. You found out information AFTER you originally said dont do them.
What random crap am i pumping out? Any examples? Ahhh yes, that genetics thing... because obviously what I said showed you that im just saying random crap.

You dont get it.

Fellas, chill out. I appreciate any and all different advice, information, and points of view.
Yes, my knees are next to shot; but i feel like the only thing that would help (besides stretching out) would be to strengthening it. The Genetics thing I feelis BS. All my life I had been scrawny and then I just switched up my day to day routines and a year later and 60 pounds bigger I was scrawny no more.

 

[mez 0ne]

Make sure you take it easy (go slow if you have to) and strengthen the other parts of your leg as well.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

^what other leg stuff should i work on?

 

[jdb1523]

Carlos Tevez nailed it on the head, once again, in this thread.

Since getting back into my routine I've been warming up with cardio, and only putting 45s on each side, doing 12-15 reps per set, and doing only 3 sets.Coupled with the cardio, it keeps you lean and burns fat in a number of areas. YOU SHOULD be doing squats from what you're telling us.. YOU SHOULD NOT bedoing squats if you have bad knees, and you also SHOULD NOT use heavy weights if you're getting back into it.

 

[shoeking2101]

I do not know much about squats...


But I do know they give you bounce. Started doing them, and now I'm straight bouncy. Dunking and everything. But im 17. If you hoop, then squats are aplus.

 

[ioround3]

Originally Posted by trethousandgt

I would avoid squats unless your playing an organized sport, if your form is off you can hurt your back and your knees, im 28 haven't done squats since i was 19 i try to minimize my injury risk as much as possible but when i did i would go bare bar just a different feel.

This is bad advice. Everyone should do squats. You don't have to do a lot of weight but you must get your form correct. Squats is at least a top 3exercise.... your body builds so much muscle, stemming from your legs...

 

[everysingletime]

Originally Posted by JDB1523

Carlos Tevez nailed it on the head, once again, in this thread.

Since getting back into my routine I've been warming up with cardio, and only putting 45s on each side, doing 12-15 reps per set, and doing only 3 sets. Coupled with the cardio, it keeps you lean and burns fat in a number of areas. YOU SHOULD be doing squats from what you're telling us.. YOU SHOULD NOT be doing squats if you have bad knees, and you also SHOULD NOT use heavy weights if you're getting back into it.

I fail, word to my right knee.

 

[jdb1523]

^Same my man. I just got back into my routine a little over a month ago and even though I was doing low weight/high rep squats, I def. tweaked something in myright knee.

 

[smedroc]

did me a leg workout after a fair while today...

tried walking lunges out in the carpark

....my legs are gonna be shot for like a week