See What Stop Kony prepared you all for?

[finnns2003]

They are just pulling on the puppet strings.

 

[y0ung j33zy]

Originally Posted by knightngale

what are these "kits" people bought?

on one hand it is nice to know that a lot of people have good intentions but may be taken advantage of
one the other hand it is disappointing to see these same people jumping blindly into something

always be wary of people trying to go after your money

People bought these kits to satisfy their false sense of self-righteousness. The humble brags i've seen on my timeline were outright disgusting

 

 

[regis]

Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE

Originally Posted by crcballer55

How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?

I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to.  But I would like to speak about common sense.  We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW?  After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?  
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable.  Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes.  But ask yourself WHY NOW.  And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause?  Doesn't that seem suspect to you?    

It always gets me when people use the whole "Why now" thing?
-The US has enslaved African Americans for deccades why are we just NOW going to pass the 13th Amendment?

-Hitler killed millions of Jews why are we just NOW concerned with stopping him?

-Gadafi was in power for decades why did his people just NOW start this massive movement to take him out of power?

I could go on for days bro. Everything has to happen at some point. If you saw the video youll see that organization was around for years before we all saw that 30 minute video. Most of us are too concerned with our own first world problems to think about the world outside. Thats not really anyones fault but ours.

Im not in any way trying to legitimize that video cause obviously theres a lot of sketchy *%#$ going on but this whole "WHY NOW" line that these great thinkers keep using to call other people sheep is really not wassup.

 

[juggy4805]

Who knows what to believe? The article seems to be heresay also. He says the LRA has been inactive for 6 years but gives no sources on that statement. The sources he does credit are already known to be true.

Following this article blindly is being a sheep to nonconformity.

It's all BE ES.

 

[superblytrife]

Originally Posted by Regis

Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE

Originally Posted by crcballer55

How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?

I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to.  But I would like to speak about common sense.  We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW?  After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?  
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable.  Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes.  But ask yourself WHY NOW.  And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause?  Doesn't that seem suspect to you?    

It always gets me when people use the whole "Why now" thing?
-The US has enslaved African Americans for deccades why are we just NOW going to pass the 13th Amendment?

-Hitler killed millions of Jews why are we just NOW concerned with stopping him?

-Gadafi was in power for decades why did his people just NOW start this massive movement to take him out of power?

I could go on for days bro. Everything has to happen at some point. If you saw the video youll see that organization was around for years before we all saw that 30 minute video. Most of us are too concerned with our own first world problems to think about the world outside. Thats not really anyones fault but ours.

Im not in any way trying to legitimize that video cause obviously theres a lot of sketchy *%#$ going on but this whole "WHY NOW" line that these great thinkers keep using to call other people sheep is really not wassup.

I personally haven't called anyone a sheep regarding Kony 2012.  Heck, I still think the cause is noble and I can understand why people would be sympathetic to the cause.  What the dude did was awful.   
As far as the "why now" question, I guess that boils down to personal preference/beliefs.  For me, I have a hard time believing that anything done politically (and yes, at the core this is a political issue) is done just because the time has come for it to come to fruition.  But that's just me--doesn't mean you or anyone else is a sheep.   

 

[dior paint]

Screw the infowars article for a second. From the jump...the entire thing reeked of propaganda. In this day and age...when a viral video garners that much public awareness and support from influential members of society ranging from pop culture to politics...seeming overnight at that...there can't be too much legitimacy behind it. 

 

[puddinpopp]

Originally Posted by Rolaholic

Alex Jones huh

this... where is an unbiased source...Dudes will believe anything.

 

[deuce king]

We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW?  After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?  
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable.  Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes.  But ask yourself WHY NOW.  And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause?  Doesn't that seem suspect to you?    



100% Truth, can't believe dudes fell for the banana in the tailpipe.

 

[krazy88s]

I already donated half my paycheck

 

[faint dj3]

Kony said its all lies. He would never kill his brother/sisters. so ennhhh

 

[whywesteppin]

Originally Posted by Regis

Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE

Originally Posted by crcballer55

How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?

I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to.  But I would like to speak about common sense.  We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW?  After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?  
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable.  Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes.  But ask yourself WHY NOW.  And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause?  Doesn't that seem suspect to you?    

It always gets me when people use the whole "Why now" thing?
-The US has enslaved African Americans for deccades why are we just NOW going to pass the 13th Amendment?

-Hitler killed millions of Jews why are we just NOW concerned with stopping him?

-Gadafi was in power for decades why did his people just NOW start this massive movement to take him out of power?

I could go on for days bro. Everything has to happen at some point. If you saw the video youll see that organization was around for years before we all saw that 30 minute video. Most of us are too concerned with our own first world problems to think about the world outside. Thats not really anyones fault but ours.

Im not in any way trying to legitimize that video cause obviously theres a lot of sketchy *%#$ going on but this whole "WHY NOW" line that these great thinkers keep using to call other people sheep is really not wassup.

You're right. In general using "why not" as a reason not to do something is not legitimate. It's not about "why go after Kony now" for me. It's "why launch this campaign now." There could be good reasons but there could be not-so-good reasons.

Kony has been around for a while and so have many other terrible people/regimes committing atrocities around the world. And suddenly there is this well-coordinated effort to bring him to justice.

Now, no amount of time should diminish the need to bring him to justice. However, why Kony and why 2012? Why not launch a campaign to educate people about atrocities in general?

Further, there is so much resistance to intervening in other countries. The same people who were against the war in Iraq are probably now supporting going after Kony.

The problem to me is not a lack of empathy or goodwill. The problem is that we tend to have a lack of understanding. Providing some emotional plea that only fires up the former without addressing the latter is, if anything, detrimental.

The world is not black or white like we like to think. For every dollar we send towards stopping Kony, we don't send a dollar towards a child starving somewhere else. Or we don't donate the dollar to the homeless shelter. Or to preventing another 9-11. And so on. My point is that we have limited resources and, day in and day out, I think all of us balance our natural empathy with our natural desire to be selfish and survive. The makers of Kony 2012 are guilt-tripping us into playing what is a zero-sum game for everyone except for them.

It reminds me of the "vote or die" campaign, which was really saying, "vote for my candidate or die."

 

[thunderchunk69]

Originally Posted by Faint Dj3

Kony said its all lies. He would never kill his brother/sisters. so ennhhh

 

[Jordan8]

Damned if they did nothing "Oh America doesnt care about Africa"

Damned if they do "It was a setup to invade Africa for the oilz"

The conspiracy theorists' convenient advantage

An indy filmaker with an agenda vs. freakin Alex Jones

 pick ya poison

Sheep on both sides

 

[beh235]

This is the result of the facebook/twitter generation. Stupid kids...smh

 

[superblytrife]

Originally Posted by cartune


Damned if they did nothing "Oh America doesnt care about Africa"

Damned if they do "It was a setup to invade Africa for the oilz"

The conspiracy theorists' convenient advantage

An indy filmaker with an agenda vs. freakin Alex Jones

 pick ya poison

Sheep on both sides

What about what native Ugandans are saying though?  If anyone would have knowledge of Kony, it'd be his victims and the people of that country.  Where's all the love from them for this movement?  From all accounts I've seen, the atrocities happened years ago and they're still picking up the pieces, as is expected.  But that isn't how the Kony 2012 movement portrays things, IMO.  That alone is a big, red flag.    

 

[thunderchunk69]

Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE

Originally Posted by cartune


Damned if they did nothing "Oh America doesnt care about Africa"

Damned if they do "It was a setup to invade Africa for the oilz"

The conspiracy theorists' convenient advantage

An indy filmaker with an agenda vs. freakin Alex Jones

 pick ya poison

Sheep on both sides

What about what native Ugandans are saying though?  If anyone would have knowledge of Kony, it'd be his victims and the people of that country.  Where's all the love from them for this movement?  From all accounts I've seen, the atrocities happened years ago and they're still picking up the pieces, as is expected.  But that isn't how the Kony 2012 movement portrays things, IMO.  That alone is a big, red flag.    

they're saying he moved on
the filmmaker said... he moved on but he made a promise to that boy

those aren't conflicting statements 

the only thing I found wrong with the video was that it was aimed towards the self serving motives of attention horses that wanted to "buy kits(posters/shirts/bracelets)" and show their facebook friends that they cared.

I'm not saying the conspiracy theorists are wrong but I'm more offended at the aim of the video... and that it worked 

 

[ryda421]

lol which NTers will admit to being a sheep

 

[avenue35]

smh

 

[cap1229]

I hate calling people sheep that wanted to genuinely help. It sets a bad precedent.

 

[dmoney82]

 

[send one]

All of a sudden now everybody "knew" from the jump.

 

[tkthafm]

Let's see what Ugandans in Uganda who were actually affected by the LRA have to say....

http://blogs.aljazeera.co...s-react-anger-kony-video

The audience was at first puzzled to see the narrative lead by an American man – Jason Russell – and his young son.

Towards the end of the film, the mood turned more to anger at what many people saw as a foreign, inaccurate account that belittled and commercialised their suffering, as the film promotes Kony bracelets and other fundraising merchandise, with the aim of making Kony infamous.

One woman I spoke to made the comparison of selling Osama Bin Laden paraphernalia post 9/11 – likely to be highly offensive to many Americans, however well intentioned the campaign behind it.

The event ended with the angrier members of the audience throwing rocks and shouting abusive criticism, as the rest fled for safety, leaving an abandoned projector, with organisers and the press running for cover until the dust settled.

It seems that the while the film has a viral power never seen before in the online community, it did not go down nearly so well with the very people it claims it is meant to help.

 

[coolnclutch]

It's all about making a nice documentary and getting it to trend on Twitter and you're set 

Hustling

 

[ninjahood]

suckers...lol

 

[korean krossover]

He's the hero Uganda deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him, because he can take it. He's not a hero, he's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...a dark knight.