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[flyny]

Do you hit your girl after? Or tempted to at all?

Physically? Na never that

I want to implement overhead presses in my routine, but Im scared. I don't want to hit my head and die.
Will OHP give me big Brolic shoulders?

 

[Deleted member 38307]

Have lost 10 lbs in like a week.
Had to go to the emergency room, apparently I have acute pancreatitis

Anyone ever deal with anything like this?

 

[suavamente]

Physically? Na never that

I want to implement overhead presses in my routine, but Im scared. I don't want to hit my head and die.
Will OHP give me big Brolic shoulders?

They invented safety pins for a reason...

a wise man once said "if the weight doesn't scare you a bit, then it's not heavy enough"

 

[QU!K]

Dumbells?

 

[mgrand15]

That's apparently the core of Mike Tyson's strength routine... underrated and great cardio IMO

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

I was looking through my old Boxing information, and i came across this information on Iron Mike's conditioning regimen up until 1988-1990. 500 press ups (good old traditional hard millitary style pushups), 800 dips, 2000 sit ups, 500 shrugs with a 30 kg barbell all within a hour timespan.


Also, according to the article, up until he fired Kevin Rooney in 1988, his ONLY diet was steak, pasta and fruit juice. How's that for discipline?


Daily Regime (7 days a week):

5am: get up and go for a 3 mile jog

6am: come back home shower and go back to bed (great workout for those huge legs of his)

10am wake up: eat oatmeal

12pm: do ring work (10 rounds of sparring)

2pm: have another meal (steak and pasta with fruit juice drink)

3pm: more ring work and 60 mins on the exercise bike (again working those huge legs for endurance)

5pm: 2000 sit-ups; 500-800 dips; 500 press-ups; 500 shrugs with a 30kg barbell and 10 mins of neck exercises

7pm: steak and pasta meal again with fruit juice (orange i think it was)

8pm: another 30 minutes on the exercise bike

then watch TV and then go to bed.


Before jogging in the morning he did a lot of stretching followed by 10 jumps onto boxes and 10 bursts of sprints, then he went jogging.

At 12pm he sparred.

At 3pm he did focus mitt work or heavy bag work inside the ring. He warmed up for all ring work with light exercises such as skipping or shadow boxing or speed ball.

At 5pm Tyson did 10 quick circuits, each circuit consisting of: 200 sit-ups, then 25-40 dips, then 50 press-ups, then 25-40 dips, then 50 shrugs, followed by 10 mins of neck work on the floor. What an animal!


Tyson said that the shrugs "built his shoulders up" to help unleash punches with his short arms whilst at the same time building endurance in the neck. It should be noted though that Tyson couldn't do any more than 50 sit-ups a day and 50 press-ups a day when he was 13, but gradually increasing the reps each week got him to a higher level over many years, so that he was doing 2000 sit-ups inside 2 hours every day by the time he was 20!


Mike told Ian Durke (Sky commentator) his above workout regime when he visited England to watch a Frank Bruno fight in March 1987. Durke told Mike that Bruno trained like a bodybuilder and asked Mike about this, but Mike said that floor exercises and natural exercises work better. Mike explained that his punch-power comes from nothing more than heavy bag work "works your strength through the hips" he said, despite doing shrugs with a barbell he said that lifting weights has about as much resemblance to punching as "cheesecake" (contradicting himself though due to doing shrugs).


His mentor Cus D'Amato realised that, due to Tyson's style, he needed punch-power (not that he didn't have it naturally anyway). So Cus got Mike very heavy bags to hit for a 13 yr old, and Cus gradually increased the weight of the bags Tyson used over time so that by the age of 18-19 Tyson was banging bags that no other man could budge! Also, Cus used to order Tyson to go jog 3 miles with 50lbs on his back because he didn't want Mike growing any taller (because it didn't suit his style)!


Whether Mike was exaggerating or telling tall tales (to frighten or confuse future opponent Frank Bruno), is not clear. However, you gotta remember this was Mike Tyson. He was already naturally very strong, bone structure of a dinosaur, unlike your average man, or any professional prize fighter for that matter!



The high reps dp make sense, though. Pushups and other calisthenics still build a lot of mental toughness and overall well being. You can also add resistance to your pushups by using a weighted vest or a power pushup strand.


I asked my dad, a boxing fan, what he remembered from his time in the gym. He heard that Sugar Ray Robinson, and Ali, never lifted weights. The way Ray Robinson trained back in the 1930's roughly the same way he trained in the 1960's.


Old fashioned boxing training was really just a specialized form of calisthenics. It is simple, effective and relatively inexpensive. The problem with it is that it becomes rather boring and that is why boxers are notoriously negligent with their training. Everything changed in 1977 when Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in a movie called Pumping Iron.


That is the point where weightlifting suddenly became a necessity in nearly every sport including boxing. Why you ask? The answer to that question is very easy, calisthenics are BORING! When you pump up your muscles you get a rush that you will never get from the old fashioned stuff. Training became fun when when the weights came out. Boxers are still negligent with their training, proper training that is. But I have noticed these past 30 years there are a lot more muscular boxers than there once was.


If you read Joe Frazier's book on boxing technique, he recommends not touching weights at all either. Calisthenics and cardio-type exercises can give you all the conditioning you need, aside from actual boxing workouts.


 

Banged these out this morning hitting 225x3x3 on OHP

Some of that Tyson stuff seems like exaggeration (making him wear a backpack while he ran so he could stay short ) but boxers put in serious, serious work. Floyd trains damn near all day. Really motivating.

 

[jphysique]

Physically? Na never that

I want to implement overhead presses in my routine, but Im scared. I don't want to hit my head and die.
Will OHP give me big Brolic shoulders?

I love OHP! it's a staple go mines and I got big shoulders haha

 

[ootherocoo]

Have lost 10 lbs in like a week.
Had to go to the emergency room, apparently I have acute pancreatitis

Anyone ever deal with anything like this?

Damn.  Hope you get better soon.

 

[hyper cutter]

I wonder if you put a bunch of weed in the heavy bags itself your testosterone might increase even more.

Or maybe just the aromatics of the weed being released as you punch the bag counter the test-aggression caused by contact with the bag.

Like a balance of effects.

 

[stuntman mike]

this is foolish. i'm impressed though. skip to about :50

 

[frank mucus]

Would it be weird bringing in my own weights to the gym?

I want to bring my tsunami barbell for that extra resistance when benching, deadlifting, and squatting.


For those who don't know about the tsunami barbell:

 

[stuntman mike]

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[bboy1983]

Beware of the heavy bag
Don't let it get to your head
It's a certain strand of testaterone that gets released when you hit a heavy bag. It's negative testaterone and it makes you violent. After hitting the heavy bag for 2 months, I notice a spike in my violence and my temper. The testaterone gets released when you hit a heavy bag, but during the resting phase, the levels spike and make you more tempermatic and violent than you were before. It's been confirmed. Or maybe it's just in my head. I be feeling unstoppable after hitting that bag with the heavy hitter combos. That feeling lasts a good 5 hours

When that happens....just beat yourself.....off. Lol. You crazy

 

[st1llundftd]

If i seen this at the gym i would hit em with the 

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[durden7]

Not sure how I feel about that bar.....

 

[flyny]

Made a huge mistake today. Went to Mcdonalds this evening. Had a mc double and a 4 piece nugget. Made me fall asleep instantly. Woke up feeling like ****, still went to the gym. Had 0 energy, 0 drive. Did about 1/2 the amount of work I would normally do.

Never again. Sticking to my PB sandwich and banana an hour before workout from now on out

 

[freeze]

If i seen this at the gym i would hit em with the  followed by

bruhhh

 

[everysingletime]

For me, I know not to eat heavy if I am planning on working out. Cuz I know once I eat big, it's a wrap for the day.

Before a workout session, I eat a piece of bread with peanut butter, and/or a banana or a small bowl of cereal.

 

[mplsdunk]

Would it be weird bringing in my own weights to the gym?

I want to bring my tsunami barbell for that extra resistance when benching, deadlifting, and squatting.


For those who don't know about the tsunami barbell:

Gonna look like the twerk team doing squats with that.

 

[mostly human]

 
If i seen this at the gym i would hit em with the 

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Says Sport Specific but then shows a guy doing that.  Unless he's fencing no sport makes you move like that.

 

[SuperJ5]

 
Says Sport Specific but then shows a guy doing that.  Unless he's fencing no sport makes you move like that.

Thats a kick step performed by O-linemen.

I have zero experience with that bar but I know some people who like it.

 

[picasso swerve]

For me, I know not to eat heavy if I am planning on working out. Cuz I know once I eat big, it's a wrap for the day.

Before a workout session, I eat a piece of bread with peanut butter, and/or a banana or a small bowl of cereal.

I eat big before and after a workout.

I know this topic has been beaten to death but im thinking of picking up a casein. Anyone use it religiously? I get my 175g+ of protein a day but I like the idea of a slow protein, and when I used to take it a while back I woudnt wake up as hungry.

 

[flyny]

What's the diff between whey and casein?

What will give me the best gains?

Anyone use C4?

 

[picasso swerve]

Fly you go to Planet Fitness dont you?

 

[stuntman mike]

dat dere negative testosterone

 

[mgrand15]

I can't tell if FlyNY is trolling or not but all his posts are comedy for some reason