TEAM AIR FORCE 1 VOL. 6 AKA STOP PM'ING US

I mean't to argue with a seller when they decline your offer is disrespectful.

And I have 50 pairs of ds vintage forces. I have owned at least 80 pairs but I sell to keep a small quality collection. I can tell you a lot about what things are worth. Show me more ds pairs golfinguru.

Actually canvaslover2533 sounds a lot more like FendiNYC than golfinguru 8)
 
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Goldenrod 98's 
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goldenrod jewels lows or mids are fire :smokin

sidenote: i finally got these crossed off my grail list. couldnt be more happier!

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some USA's as well

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^nice pickups doodadee...crimsons lookin like they just came out

do anyone have pics of 02 all white lows?

edit- size 8-9.5 heads get at me
 
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Really nice stuff in here guys aside for the BS. we had this convo recently on the Teams FB page and i dont believe any one person or group of ppl can determine the value of a sneaker all you have is your opinion and what you may be willing to pay. I Hate the logic that if your willing to spend more that makes you a True collector, ill be the first one to tell you i dont see most sneakers period being worth over $200 call me cheap w/e but im not gonna leave them in the box as conversation pieces im gonna eventually wear them into the ground and id rather not have spent soo much money to do so.
 
wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo yall still using the thread i made so long ago nice...


sooo

anyone have a lead on a size 9 in them new pythons that dropped? a buddy of mine is looking for them.. inbox me
 
I stayed away purposely out of respect for the thread because I knew I'd get into it if I kept replying. I do want to clarify my perspective, but I'm not trying to argue, just to offer things as I see them and do so calmly and civilly.

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This market isnt large enough to be a stable market. The amount of people that are into vintage forces just isnt big enough for there to be set prices on things like there are for jordans and what not.
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Personally, I think this is pretty true as well.

The subtly of my point that was lost as well was that I was continuously speaking about "the market," or at least my perception thereof. I wasn't making judgments as to what I think they are worth - I'm viewing them in relation to other potential deals I see in the future.

There are a lot of different ways to look at things. For example, Nadel only buys DS. I have a lot of DS pairs, but also buy a lot of used pairs as well. So, for me a $400 pair, not only has to be weighed against the chances of that pair popping up again DS and the likelihood of getting it for less, plus what else I can buy for $400 (AF1 or otherwise), but also the price of a well-kept used pair and the chances of finding one of those.

But, it still kind of comes back to what GG says because if there was a truly established market, we wouldn't be having this argument. Again - note that I'm not talking about whether I think a shoe is worth a certain amount (to me), but whether there's a measurably better deal on the same shoe to be found. Were there such a firmly established market, I'd simply just say I'm willing or not willing to pay that. ...It's not that I'm not willing to pay a certain amount, it's that I don;t think I HAVE TO. Subtle, but profound difference there.

Finally, let me just lay out my macro perspective on things. Again, this is just my philosophy - I'm not speaking for anybody else or arguing this is how anybody else should feel. The quest for Forces is endless. This isn't like Jordans where I basically have every shoe in the line I care about (maybe missing 3 or 4) and I'm just stacking multiples when I find deals. There's always another pair of Forces to obtain. That's why I can't even use the term "grail." There's a want list, but once I acquire one, there are dozens more lining up to take its place. Collecting Forces is like Lucy in the candy factory.

...And, no matter how much I want a single pair, once I acquire it, it just goes in a pile atop hundreds of others. Sometimes it gets tons of wear, sometimes it never touches the ground, and most of the time somewhere in between. But - at the risk of sounding like I have no passion anymore (that's not the case at all) - it's just another pair of shoes; I'm in the same exact position the day after buying them as I was the day before. Peeing in the ocean. So, if I don't get this pair, or get this pair at the price I want, there's always a next pair, and I'll get that one. Sure, I like some pairs more than others, but that's not necessarily reflected in the prices of things. If I knew that my collection was 5 pairs away from being complete, I'd have no problems spending $500 each to finish it off. But, because the AF1 is unconquerable, I can fold any hand I want and there's a new deal already in process.

If I ever reach the point where all I want to finish my collection is that one pair of gold canvas that I could have had for $480 back in 2013, then I'll just find the person who bought it and offer him $650. Until that day comes, I'll continue to play the field, and frankly, I expect that I'll find a pair for less at some point in my future pursuits - I don't plan on them ending anytime soon.
 
what the heck on the prices of those downtown lows. i actually want a pair eventually. hopefully we see a price drop :x
 
thank you thank you to BIP for helping me out. rarely buy anything nowdays but these are pretty nice.

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BIP, I need Olives! Help!
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My man.

Dude, ain't much I can do... except sell you mine. That's not currently in my plans, but you can try to get me drunk enough to change my mind if you want. :tongue:

I actually copped the camos in store. I hopped off on my way to work to check the line and it didn't seem so bad, so I just bit my lip and waited. (Line was fine - it was the checkout process that took forever.) Anyway, dude in front of me was only there for gear - turned out to be a real cool super tall Aussie. I was already happy; not being stuck next to somebody who'd be tempting me to catch a case was already a win. I was talking to dude and since Supreme only allows you one item - not one per color - we wound up agreeing that I would buy him a second piece of clothing and he'd buy me a second pair of shoes. I decide to get a second camo instead of a first black or olive because I assumed that I'd have to get the other two colors in the secondary market, so I just went for the pair that I thought would get me the most on the resale to help offset the price of the other two pairs. However, I happened to get real lucky in that when I got home I caught a restock on their site too. Using two different CCs w/ 2 different sets of info, I was able to get pairs of the other 2 colors too. So, I was left with an extra camo. I owe Stuntman like 100 favors, so I hit him up and promised them to him for retail.

I can keep a look out for you though.

Oh, and no need for any of you to trouble yourselves, I'll get this one for myself

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MNadel said:
I mean't to argue with a seller when they decline your offer is disrespectful.
And I have 50 pairs of ds vintage forces. I have owned at least 80 pairs but I sell to keep a small quality collection. I can tell you a lot about what things are worth. Show me more ds pairs golfinguru.
Actually canvaslover2533 sounds a lot more like FendiNYC than golfinguru
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Just because you buy a lot of DS pairs of vintage air forces, that doesn't mean you know what they sell for. A market has to be large enough to account for outliers, high and low. And they just dont come up for sale often enough to really say. But this whole argument is futile, since you are stubborn and won't listen to anything me (or Bip, or anyone else) says. As for my collection, only about 20% of it is Air Forces so youre right you probly have more than me. But just in general, I can show you dozens of shoes you could/will never own just in terms of price and rarity. Im not here to get into a sneaker battle though... be easy Mikey. 

Oh, and I really cant believe that you still think Im Fendi. Keep on thinkin that though. Funny that you brought him up though, because he keeps tellin me that hes gonna come back in here one day and just shut down this entire thread (dude has more DS vintage pairs than you mike). 
 
BIP Roberts said:
I stayed away purposely out of respect for the thread because I knew I'd get into it if I kept replying. I do want to clarify my perspective, but I'm not trying to argue, just to offer things as I see them and do so calmly and civilly.
Personally, I think this is pretty true as well.
The subtly of my point that was lost as well was that I was continuously speaking about "the market," or at least my perception thereof. I wasn't making judgments as to what I think they are worth - I'm viewing them in relation to other potential deals I see in the future.
There are a lot of different ways to look at things. For example, Nadel only buys DS. I have a lot of DS pairs, but also buy a lot of used pairs as well. So, for me a $400 pair, not only has to be weighed against the chances of that pair popping up again DS and the likelihood of getting it for less, plus what else I can buy for $400 (AF1 or otherwise), but also the price of a well-kept used pair and the chances of finding one of those.
But, it still kind of comes back to what GG says because if there was a truly established market, we wouldn't be having this argument. Again - note that I'm not talking about whether I think a shoe is worth a certain amount (to me), but whether there's a measurably better deal on the same shoe to be found. Were there such a firmly established market, I'd simply just say I'm willing or not willing to pay that. ...It's not that I'm not willing to pay a certain amount, it's that I don;t think I HAVE TO. Subtle, but profound difference there.
Finally, let me just lay out my macro perspective on things. Again, this is just my philosophy - I'm not speaking for anybody else or arguing this is how anybody else should feel. The quest for Forces is endless. This isn't like Jordans where I basically have every shoe in the line I care about (maybe missing 3 or 4) and I'm just stacking multiples when I find deals. There's always another pair of Forces to obtain. That's why I can't even use the term "grail." There's a want list, but once I acquire one, there are dozens more lining up to take its place. Collecting Forces is like Lucy in the candy factory.
...And, no matter how much I want a single pair, once I acquire it, it just goes in a pile atop hundreds of others. Sometimes it gets tons of wear, sometimes it never touches the ground, and most of the time somewhere in between. But - at the risk of sounding like I have no passion anymore (that's not the case at all) - it's just another pair of shoes; I'm in the same exact position the day after buying them as I was the day before. Peeing in the ocean. So, if I don't get this pair, or get this pair at the price I want, there's always a next pair, and I'll get that one. Sure, I like some pairs more than others, but that's not necessarily reflected in the prices of things. If I knew that my collection was 5 pairs away from being complete, I'd have no problems spending $500 each to finish it off. But, because the AF1 is unconquerable, I can fold any hand I want and there's a new deal already in process.
If I ever reach the point where all I want to finish my collection is that one pair of gold canvas that I could have had for $480 back in 2013, then I'll just find the person who bought it and offer him $650. Until that day comes, I'll continue to play the field, and frankly, I expect that I'll find a pair for less at some point in my future pursuits - I don't plan on them ending anytime soon.
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lol @ shut down the thread. measuring your dingle by what shoes you own is so solecolllector. tell your buddy to stop threatening and just do it already or shut up. hope shawnyyy and sgt****zle start posting more porn. or someone tell kazi to wow us!
 
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