The 2015 NBA Draft Thread: Draft Day Is Here

[JD617]

 

[rck3sactown]

whoa George McCloud is a scout for the Kings, had no idea...... haven't heard that name in 10+ years 

 

[jpzx]

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[awwsome]

Watching every game of LaVine/Wiggins/Towns.

Fast breaks are going to be .


The defense potential between Wiggins and Towns is crazy too, really excited to watch that next year.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

So we not gonna discuss how he dominated in high school?

I guess we can't evaluate players based on the eye test and what they did at the previous level anymore huh?

We can, but you also have to point out he played for a loaded UK team and really wasn't put in a position to showcase all of his talents.

Just wanted to clarify that Randle's UK team was NOT loaded ...that was the squad that struggled during the season then got hot in the tourney ...he had to play with the Harrison twins , and James young...wcs was the best other talent on the team and at that point he was still learning basketball ...besides a few random 3's from young randle was actually the go to guy and he produced ...Cal let him cook even more than he let Towns do his thing

I'm a huge UK and PayPal Cal fan, that team was loaded fam so I don't need any reminders

When I say loaded, I mean it wasn't just Randle on the squad by himself. A few random 3s by Young, you serious? he was one of the most consistent scorers on the team when we went through those Chicago Bulls-like offensive droughts. Then you had the selfish play of the Harrisons and you still had Poythress trying to find himself. Add WCS & Dakari to the equation as well. Cal had a lot of mouths to feed, not just Randle is what I was saying.

If a team has potentially 8 pros on it...that's loaded.

QFT.

 

[wavycrocket]

That team def wasn't loaded. They came in as an 8 seed, and some saw that as generous. They had names, but the names hadn't cought up to the actual production on the floor.

Randle and WCS led the way. Young was just a chucker who hit bailout 3's. He shot a bad percentage all season long. UK got hot that year thanks to the talent coming together, and some ridiculous shots by the Harrison's and Young,

Had they lost that close game to Wichita State in the round of 32...nobody would be saying they were "loaded".

 

[wavycrocket]

When I think of "Loaded" I think of 2009 UK, 2012 UK. The 2013 UK team that got bounced in the NIT could be considered "Loaded" by the same metric of pros they had on that team.

Maybe just a difference of opinion on how we define loaded.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

You guys are over analyzing what is being said. Has nothing to do with what they did during the season, the comment was in regards to the amount of players had to cater too.

 

[6 man]

What a team actually does doesn't have any bearing on what the team was assembled to be.

It doesn't really require that much thinking. In college basketball, if you have a team of of 7-8 guys that were HS all Americans...that is loaded. It has never not meant loaded.

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

What a team actually does doesn't have any bearing on what the team was assembled to be.

It doesn't really require that much thinking. In college basketball, if you have a team of of 7-8 guys that were HS all Americans...that is loaded. It has never not meant loaded.

QFT (again)

 

[6 man]

That 2012-2013 team wasn't anywhere close to the 13-14 team. There were two 1&done Gus (one of which wasn't expected to be) on that team and they were led by Ryan Harrow.

 

[wavycrocket]

What a team actually does doesn't have any bearing on what the team was assembled to be.

It doesn't really require that much thinking. In college basketball, if you have a team of of 7-8 guys that were HS all Americans...that is loaded. It has never not meant loaded.

Ehh. A team of 5 or 6 Juniors & seniors that have played together and averaged over 10ppg is "loaded" to me. Like this past Wisconsin team. But they just lost to a team full of freshman All Americans. So you have a point lol.

I think it matters more on "who" the players are. More so than they're HS accolades.

 

[frshstunna]

If you wanna use the High school all american and pros argument than the NIT team was "loaded" too, cant have it both ways

 

[6 man]

I can't believe we're even debating this. Yall got short term memory. They were getting pubbed as the best recruiting class since the fab 5. There was a ridiculous amount of hype for that team early on.

Just because they "struggled" doesn't mean they weren't loaded.

 

[6 man]

If you wanna use the High school all american and pros argument than the NIT team was "loaded" too, cant have it both ways

Fam...put both rosters next to each other and tell me there isn't a significant difference in talent

 

[wavycrocket]

That 2012-2013 team wasn't anywhere close to the 13-14 team. There were two 1&done Gus (one of which wasn't expected to be) on that team and they were led by Ryan Harrow.

Your looking at the result though. This team was ranked #1 preseason. Harrow had been "killing it in practice" against the AD led team, and was projected as a 1st rounder before the season began.

At the beginning of 2012-2013...a lineup of

Harrow
Goodwin
Pothryess
Wiltjier
Nerlens

And Cauley Stein off the bench

Gave Bball insiders hard-ons and final four projections.

 

[frshstunna]

If you wanna use the High school all american and pros argument than the NIT team was "loaded" too, cant have it both ways

Fam...put both rosters next to each other and tell me there isn't a significant difference in talent

Both teams had mutliple hs all americans and pros so whats the difference? one team just had a worse season than the other but they still technically both loaded right?? you said it not me, dont back track

 

[6 man]

Aren't you looking at the results too with what you're saying about next years team?

They were considered one of the greatest recruiting classes of all time by virtually every reputable outlet that exists. That game they had in Barclays had Scouts from 30 teams in attendance. How was that team not loaded?

 

[6 man]

Both teams had mutliple hs all americans and pros so whats the difference? one team just had a worse season than the other but they still technically both loaded right?? you said it not me, dont back track

Back tracking from what? You didn't make a single point just now. You're using "multiple all Americans" as a way to make it seem like both teams has the same amount. That isn't true. UKs entire freshmen class were top 25 that year. That's unheard of. They were not at all the same type of teams in talent

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

But anyways, no way in hell the Sixers pass on Russell or Mudiay. You can't take the kid from overseas especially if Saric is staying overseas for another year. Their fanbase would riot

 

[6 man]

Kentucky reloads: Calipari ushers in 'best ever' freshman class - http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...s-best-in-college-basketball-history/3171357/

Video: Is Kentucky class the best ever? - http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebask...d/83630/video-is-kentucky-class-the-best-ever

I guess I made this all up

 

[wavycrocket]

But anyways, no way in hell the Sixers pass on Russell or Mudiay. You can't take the kid from overseas especially if Saric is staying overseas for another year. Their fanbase would riot

Sixers are about to have like 4 Bigs all from the past few drafts. Mudiay or Russell is the obvious choice.

I see Mudiay sliding to 7 and Denver snatching him up

 

[captainsneakerhead23]

But anyways, no way in hell the Sixers pass on Russell or Mudiay. You can't take the kid from overseas especially if Saric is staying overseas for another year. Their fanbase would riot

Sixers are about to have like 4 Bigs all from the past few drafts. Mudiay or Russell is the obvious choice.

I see Mudiay sliding to 7 and Denver snatching him up

Would be nice.

Where do you see Lawson ending up?

 

[wavycrocket]

Would be nice.

Where do you see Lawson ending up?

Honestly, idc at this point lol. I'd be content trading him for an expiring contract and a 1st round pick next year.

Ty is my guy, but he wants out of Denver and loves the thots a lil too much.

 

[the gr8est]

Someone just called Okafor = Eddie Curry.

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Yall take everything out of context in here.

Yall also quickly forget that at one time Curry was considered a rising star in the NBA with a revolutionary post game that combined power with an uncanny quickness for a player of his stature. He was labeled by some as a modern Shaq.

From his NBADRAFT.net scouting report:

NBA Comparison: Shaquille O'Neal

Strengths: Has more strength and polish than Shaq at the same age. The only thing that can stop Eddy Curry from becoming the next dominant force in the NBA is Eddy Curry. Has off the charts strength. athleticism is very good for a player his size. Has learned to score despite constant double and triple teams. Has a nifty turn around, can even knock down the occaisional 18 footer. Unlike Shaq and Wilt, does not have the achilles freethrow curse.

He also averaged 20 PPG. But he never had the work ethic to make it in this league. **** happens.

I never said it will happen, or that it will probably happen, or even that I think it will happen. But Okafor could definitely go down that road if he lets himself.

Sometimes yall act like these kids are ******* invincible and there is no possible way they wont succeed in the league. The cold hard fact is that these dudes are just kids. We dont know how they will pan out down the road. The scouts dont know, Chad Ford doesnt know, the teams dont know, and even the players dont ******* know.

Okafor has EXTREMELY SIMILAR positives and weaknesses as Curry did as a prospect. Similar kind of hype and both Chicago kids as well (even though that is kind of irrelevant). If he is a lazy piece of **** in the NBA like Curry was, and doesnt develop his all around game, Okafor could very well wind up having an Eddy Curry type career.

It is an accurate FLOOR, despite the fact that some of you Okafor homers fail to acknowledge this. Like I said before, if you dont at least see similarities to Eddy Curry in Jahil Okafor, you either do not know/remember Eddy Curry besides the dude on the Heat bench or you are just an Okafor fanboy/homer.

You may not think he will pan out this way, I dont either necessarily, but the similarities are definitely there. And they should be acknowledged as much as we like to acknowledge the "Tim Duncan" comparisons. 

All these dudes have floors. I dont care how much you love prospect X, nobody is a sure thing. If you would have said what Curry's career became back in 2002, you wouldnt have believed it either.

I love D'Angelo Russell for instance. I really think he could get into that guard tier with Steph Curry, Harden, Westbrook and them. That is his CEILING. I personally think he will pan out and be near that ceiling. That is why I like him. But I wont be ******* blind in all the hype and say that there is no chance he could become more like Jerryd Bayless or some **** like that. I don't know. I might think one way, and I do, but I dont ******* know. Neither do any of yall.

If you want to hype all of these prospects based on what they can become in a positive light, you also need to acknowledge what they could be if they dont pan out. You cant have it both ways, No matter how much you believe in a kid, None of us ******* know what will happen. The more you acknowledge your own ignorance, the less of a know-it-all D-Bag you sound like.

Stop taking **** out of context.