The Combat Jack Show Thread

Discussion in 'Music' started by romedadude, Dec 26, 2013.

  1. Cashflow

    Cashflow

    15,266
    7,362
    Joined
    Jan 31, 2007
    Tekashi got Joe shook
     
  2. VARNELL HILL

    VARNELL HILL

    7,861
    13,992
    Joined
    Apr 5, 2017
    Joe's OD'ing on the Kanye vitriol with every podcast now.
    If you canceled the *****...why do you still get so emotional when talking about him? :lol:

    He's being contrarian...JUST TO BE contrarian...and it's all centered around the Trump ****.

    I also think he actually IS listening to the albums :lol: Last week he said he didn't listen to the album AT ALL...and then 5 minutes later seemed to know the content of the outro song :lol:.
     
    tay1 and str8drop like this.
  3. tay1

    tay1

    26,422
    11,654
    Joined
    Aug 6, 2012
    Joe said Mal came through with the fire mid already rolled :lol:

    You hating on mid :lol: :lol:

    I'm tired of your boujee bowels:lol:
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2018
  4. a blinkin

    a blinkin

    15,592
    10,923
    Joined
    Jan 5, 2013
    Yo where’s the speed dating video :rofl:
     
  5. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    He made Cyhi look like a fool. Massa :lol: Cyhi is just happy when Kanye talks to him. Kanye did all that production and couldn't throw you one song or feature.

    Drake :smh: I saw the chick. They didn't mention that like they should have.

    I think it's more so he was getting annoyed by Rory. Rory acting like Kanye doing those numbers the past two weeks isn't a step back.
     
  6. VARNELL HILL

    VARNELL HILL

    7,861
    13,992
    Joined
    Apr 5, 2017
    I think this is a huge misconception people are running on without the context. Once we start talking about how streaming works, we can't keep looking at what they consider 1 album sale NOW...and judge it through the same lens we used 20 years ago. Very few people actually understand the ins and outs of this ****...and it gets even more murky when we consider that these numbers are probably being tampered with anyway.

    But from what I do know...If he puts 10 more songs on that album...that "album equivalent unit" number would look ALOT closer to what people think an artist of his stature "should" be selling.

    Jay Z did 174K first week w/ 444....and nobody would say he took a step back. And it went "platinum" based on however the hell they count this **** now.

    All I'm saying is...once we take off our new "I hate Kanye now" glasses and look at this objectively without bias...his music is selling. The "canceling of Kanye" was not reflected in the numbers. At least the numbers they're giving us. I read this **** streamed 100 million times just like the last one.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
    str8drop likes this.
  7. str8drop

    str8drop

    5,267
    3,588
    Joined
    Dec 29, 2012
    Yeah, idk how adding more tracks would've really effected the streams per track, but based on how it streamed it look like it would've did closer to that J Cole 300k+ area if it had a similar number of tracks

    Culture II was a streaming monster (199k, 225 million streams from 24 tracks) and he outdid their first week with 7 tracks. The Weeknd Ep was a similar length as ye and he outdid that as well.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
  8. tay1

    tay1

    26,422
    11,654
    Joined
    Aug 6, 2012
    Yeah saying 170k first week is bad is a dumb statement. I feel like people are smarter than that, but just because people don't **** with Ye, they wanna act differently .
     
  9. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    I don't know how you dudes can say it's not that bad, when Kanye's album sales have been steadily declining. He did over 300,000 with Yeezus when streams didn't count the way they do now.

    Kanye and Cudi is doing 100,000

    and a short album means you can play the album more. A short album didn't affect Pusha.
     
    harlemtothebronx likes this.
  10. tay1

    tay1

    26,422
    11,654
    Joined
    Aug 6, 2012
    Every rapper is declining in sales. Jay did like 200k. You know comparing Yeezus to his newest album is a false parallel. Streaming wasnt off like that when Yeezus was out.
     
  11. VARNELL HILL

    VARNELL HILL

    7,861
    13,992
    Joined
    Apr 5, 2017
    Drake has sold less total units with every album since Take Care.

    Is he declining...or is the music industry changing?
     
  12. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    Kanye is one of the top three most popular rapper probably of all time and sold nearly a million copies in one week a couple of times.

    Future sold 140 and 120 with his two albums.

    So Kanye is on Future's level now? And that's not a drop off?

    J Cole did 400
    Kendrick did 600

    So the excuse for Kanye is what?

    Is this new climate hurting Cole and Kendrick?

    So Em going out and doing 250 or whatever he did the first week wasn't considered a disappointment?
     
    harlemtothebronx likes this.
  13. blackcease

    blackcease

    2,395
    697
    Joined
    Jun 19, 2006
    Both things can be true. Artists in general aren’t doing the numbers they used to do. But also, in comparison to the other top artists that are moving units, Kanye is losing ground.
     
    VARNELL HILL likes this.
  14. VARNELL HILL

    VARNELL HILL

    7,861
    13,992
    Joined
    Apr 5, 2017
    I'll concede to that point. With a caveat...
    I don't believe Kanye West is still playing the same game as the other guys when it comes to the specific hustle of selling albums. On a much smaller scale...I feel the same way about ASAP Rocky. I don't think that *****'s primary focus is to sell you music anymore. It's a money grab to fund some other ****.

    For example, Jay-Z is the one of the most successful artists of all time...and during his run we saw several artists that routine sold MORE records than he did (Nelly, Eminem. 50 Cent). And yet NONE of them possessed the power that Jay had/has.

    Regardless, I don't think number of albums sold speak to influence...and I think that's my overall point. He's losing ground in selling albums in comparison to 3 specific artists. He's not losing ground on yielding a MASS amount of influence over pop culture.

    So...we can take the low hanging fruit and say "Kanye didn't sell" because it's cool to fake hate Kanye...but we're lying to ourselves if we believe that Trump **** is why Kanye isn't Drake, Cole, or Kendrick in '18. It's ya'll fault for believing in that ****ery when it should be CLEAR as day by now that it was an album rollout :lol:
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
  15. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    I think it's a combination of his music and his personality. A lot of people are turned off by both.

    The top rappers in the game, Cole, Kendrick and Drake aren't having a problem selling. Kanye is/was a top rapper in the game. And unquestionably Kanye is more popular than all of them.

    The album didn't suffer from lack of promotion. Between him and his wife and TMZ/Trump, everyone knew it was coming.

    So I'm sure a lot of people don't rock with Kanye over the past two months. Maybe you don't. I listened on Tidal a couple of times, and then uploaded it to my Google Play account where he won't get credit for my streams. That's even if I have the desire to go back to them.
     
  16. Maximus Meridius

    Maximus Meridius

    45,169
    29,639
    Joined
    Jan 3, 2010
    Pusha took Capone to get his license. :lol: I love these random hip hop facts.
     
  17. Maximus Meridius

    Maximus Meridius

    45,169
    29,639
    Joined
    Jan 3, 2010
    Joe a weird dude. :lol:

    He loves Post Malone but Jorja Smith (who's actually really talented) is a sham.
     
  18. VARNELL HILL

    VARNELL HILL

    7,861
    13,992
    Joined
    Apr 5, 2017
    Watching this Pusha Drink Champs.

    I'm glad he chose to "speak on the album" on this platform. NORE is who I want to hear him talk rap with.

    Why was anyone expecting an artist like Pusha to give deep dives on his album on platforms like Big Boy, TBC, etc? He was being a chatty patty...on platforms that bought him there to be a chatty patty. Angela Yee don't give a **** what the first verse on If You Know You Know means.
     
    str8drop, wavycrocket and ill steelo like this.
  19. nawghtyhare

    nawghtyhare

    39,189
    18,133
    Joined
    May 24, 2005
    no he aint
     
  20. Maximus Meridius

    Maximus Meridius

    45,169
    29,639
    Joined
    Jan 3, 2010
    Drink Champs be raggedy as hell but I love it. :lol:

    [​IMG]
     
    Magic33 likes this.
  21. clarkchaz1988

    clarkchaz1988

    1,288
    216
    Joined
    Sep 14, 2012
    not my baby jorja. what episode did he say that on?
     
  22. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    Yeah, he wanted to let his thoughts at times. He has ADD.

    It's really pretty good in a dysfunctional way

    Who's more popular? He's a Kardashian.

    Episode Wednesday.
     
  23. nawghtyhare

    nawghtyhare

    39,189
    18,133
    Joined
    May 24, 2005
    of all time like u said???
    2pac
    snoop for sure
    diddy
    notorious big to a certain extent
     
  24. Magic33

    Magic33

    30,937
    13,747
    Joined
    May 16, 2003
    Puff isn't a rapper

    and I would put him ahead of Snoop
     
  25. nawghtyhare

    nawghtyhare

    39,189
    18,133
    Joined
    May 24, 2005
    his albums he's put out
    WITH HIM RAPPING
    would say otherwise
    and it wasnt a list based on order