"The Decision" in retrospect

[tunnel vision]

Originally Posted by TonyReali

Originally Posted by Tunnel Vision

Originally Posted by TonyReali

He was just the only thing that the city of Cleveland had going for them. Now look at them


My opinion that Lebron is an ignorant, pompous **!%*!% will never change, but hey its not really his fault. Just look at his mom.

I just feel that if you're gonna %$+% on the town that did so much for you during your tenure there, at least give them a heads up and let them know beforehand that you would be taking your talents to south beach.

How exactly did he %*+% on the town? Don't say because he left with a special show on ESPN.
And what did Cleveland do for him that would not have been done in any other city that had the opportunity to draft a once in a generation athlete like Lebron?
You act like he needed Cleveland more than they needed him.

I've also never gotten the point of forming an opinion on someone you know from TV and only TV. You as an adult should know that the media dictates what they want you to see and how they want you to perceive someone. 

If you know him personally, then I figure you entitled to your opinion on the guy, but all that here say stuff is irrelevant to me.

LOL at fans thinking they know these athletes personally.

I never said I personally know Lebron James, but when you're a celebrity, you're personality is gonna be judged by what people see when you're in public... And publicly, Cabron James is a pompous arrogant certified %@*-clown... and It's been published that Cleveland did everything they did during his time there to accommodate Bron Bron and his boy boys.

I definitely recognize that he is one of the top 2 or 3 players in the L right now, but he went about everything the wrong way and I'm sure he would say the same thing (whether he admits it or not).

I can understand your judging from public perception but you must know from experience, perception is NOT equal to reality. Hell, just look in General,where some of these guys would have you thinking their the baddest guys around when u know in real life that ain't the case. 
Of course all the jerk things you do will be magnified but I'm sure you never hear about good things he does. Does that mean he never does good things? Of course not. 

Yea I'm sure he would do it over but for the life of me, I just cant understand the hatred that's come from people. I consider myself a huge sports fan and its a mystery to me. I just think its petty behavior. 

 

[tonyreali]

Originally Posted by Gottips3

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak



Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs

[Chris Brown] Not sure how you can hate from outside of the playoffs......Y'all can't even get in [/Chris Brown]

  

 

[tonyreali]

Originally Posted by Gottips3

Originally Posted by ThrowedInDaGame

Originally Posted by mYToAsterspeak



Good luck getting out the second round in the playoffs

[Chris Brown] Not sure how you can hate from outside of the playoffs......Y'all can't even get in [/Chris Brown]

  

 

[in yo nostril]

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

Originally Posted by Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers

this thread is pretty much a %@+% on kobe while slurping lebron thread, kinda corny but it's just as lame when dudes make threads to slurp kobe at lebrons expense. same way how some dudes get uptight on here when you criticize lebron in any way shape or form even if it's justified. no player is immune to criticism.

at the end of the day if lebron wins rings in miami he made the right move, i could care less about the sidekick talk and all that b.s because lebron isn't a sidekick nor is dwayne wade, that whole batman and robin talk is dumb, if they both play a huge role and part in winning rings for their team then that's all that matters. regarding him leaving cleveland however, how he handled it, anyone who thinks "the decision" was an acceptable way to go about it is a damn fool and is letting their biased views affect their common sense but that's normal on here.

came in here to say SUBTLE KOBE BASHING thread. dude ignored everyones opinion on the first page except people who brought up Kobe.

Who's bashing Kobe? So if people don't say that Kobe is the best it's "Kobe bashing"?

The dude is still a top 10 player and played better this season than last season. But to say that he plays with legitimate talent around him (including Gasol, who is at LEAST as valuable as he is) isn't "bashing", it's FACT. Fact that can be supported by plenty of evidence.Also, I love how some people are quick to hate LBJ for his flaws and yet are enamored with Kobe.

Way to root for a modern-day "saint" instead of the evil LBJ!

dude, he made a topic asking why people were mad about the decision. he brought up Kobe in his initial post. people point out that most people dont care that he left cleveland, just the way in which he did it. OP ignores all those logical comments and only responds when Kobe is brought up and now look at the %%#% storm this thread is.

 

[in yo nostril]

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

Originally Posted by In Yo Nostril

Originally Posted by Cedric Ceballos 1995 Lakers

this thread is pretty much a %@+% on kobe while slurping lebron thread, kinda corny but it's just as lame when dudes make threads to slurp kobe at lebrons expense. same way how some dudes get uptight on here when you criticize lebron in any way shape or form even if it's justified. no player is immune to criticism.

at the end of the day if lebron wins rings in miami he made the right move, i could care less about the sidekick talk and all that b.s because lebron isn't a sidekick nor is dwayne wade, that whole batman and robin talk is dumb, if they both play a huge role and part in winning rings for their team then that's all that matters. regarding him leaving cleveland however, how he handled it, anyone who thinks "the decision" was an acceptable way to go about it is a damn fool and is letting their biased views affect their common sense but that's normal on here.

came in here to say SUBTLE KOBE BASHING thread. dude ignored everyones opinion on the first page except people who brought up Kobe.

Who's bashing Kobe? So if people don't say that Kobe is the best it's "Kobe bashing"?

The dude is still a top 10 player and played better this season than last season. But to say that he plays with legitimate talent around him (including Gasol, who is at LEAST as valuable as he is) isn't "bashing", it's FACT. Fact that can be supported by plenty of evidence.Also, I love how some people are quick to hate LBJ for his flaws and yet are enamored with Kobe.

Way to root for a modern-day "saint" instead of the evil LBJ!

dude, he made a topic asking why people were mad about the decision. he brought up Kobe in his initial post. people point out that most people dont care that he left cleveland, just the way in which he did it. OP ignores all those logical comments and only responds when Kobe is brought up and now look at the %%#% storm this thread is.

 

[north dade represent]

From what I see, Lebron James is an arrogant, egotistical, jerk.
From what I see, the majority of superstar atheletes are arrogant, egotistical, jerks.

Don't know why Lebron gets hated on so much more than the rest of these guys. I root for him as an athelete because he plays for my team and because he's fun to watch. His personality is irrelevant in my opinion.

 

[north dade represent]

From what I see, Lebron James is an arrogant, egotistical, jerk.
From what I see, the majority of superstar atheletes are arrogant, egotistical, jerks.

Don't know why Lebron gets hated on so much more than the rest of these guys. I root for him as an athelete because he plays for my team and because he's fun to watch. His personality is irrelevant in my opinion.

 

[bc2310]

I know BS isn't well respected on this forum but what he said on the subject 

He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP.

Biggest 'Look at Me' moment in sports. (something along those lines anyway)

Old topic but this parody never gets old to me

 

[sensaciondelbloque]

does anybody think Lebron will retire in Miami? I dont think so.

 

[sensaciondelbloque]

does anybody think Lebron will retire in Miami? I dont think so.

 

[bc2310]

I know BS isn't well respected on this forum but what he said on the subject 

He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP.

Biggest 'Look at Me' moment in sports. (something along those lines anyway)

Old topic but this parody never gets old to me

 

[sensaciondelbloque]

double

 

[chrisblazinnj]

The Heat went wrong when they underestimated the championship process.

 

[chrisblazinnj]

The Heat went wrong when they underestimated the championship process.

 

[sensaciondelbloque]

double

 

[onetrust]

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:

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Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.

 

 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?

Who brought up how well they'd do in the playoffs???  You were acting like without your "almighty" Kobe that the Lakers would be some lottery team.  Kobe fans like you always try to make up some mythical "chuck norris" type @@!# when it comes to Kobe as if they don't have a winning record WITHOUT kobe already.

SO yeah, you proved my point, the Lakers would STILL be a playoff team without your boy.

Oh and

 at you dissing Ron Artest.  Y'all should be saying "THANK GOD for Ron Artest" after saving y'all in game 7.    

 

[onetrust]

Originally Posted by Mister Friendly

OneTrust wrote:

---

Remember, Pau Gasol (who would then be the guy carrying the Lakers) wasnt Pau Gasol until he teamed up with Kobe.  Just sayin.

Yeah, he was just a guy that took his team to the playoffs without Kobe more than ONCE.

 

 at the Lakers NOT being a playoff team without Kobe.  I guess people forgot Gasol took Memphis MULTIPLE times to the playoffs.  Give him a Bynum, Odom, Artest and Phil Jackson and you're telling me they won't make the playoffs??? Yeaaaaa okaaaay. 





Why do people kept mentioning Artest like hes good or something?

The people who keep mentioning Artest obviously havent seriously watched the NBA for a couple years. Artest is averaging 8 PPG and constantly miss wide shot open shots, they dont even guard half of the time. Ok if Kobe was gone, he may average 10 PPG. Artest is a pure role player at this point.

Of yeah I forgot Gasol had been to the Playoffs MULTIPLE times because he went and was promptly swept every time he went...... So okay I react my earlier statement... The Lakers would be fighting for the 7th or 8th spot then get promptly swept by the Spurs, Thunder or Mavericks.

Is that better?

Who brought up how well they'd do in the playoffs???  You were acting like without your "almighty" Kobe that the Lakers would be some lottery team.  Kobe fans like you always try to make up some mythical "chuck norris" type @@!# when it comes to Kobe as if they don't have a winning record WITHOUT kobe already.

SO yeah, you proved my point, the Lakers would STILL be a playoff team without your boy.

Oh and

 at you dissing Ron Artest.  Y'all should be saying "THANK GOD for Ron Artest" after saving y'all in game 7.    

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by acidicality

IMO, the Lakers team would absolutely be a playoff team in the West without Kobe. Their frontcourt alone is enough to give many teams problems, and having a great frontcourt in the NBA (and basketball, in general) is a recipe for success. I'd put them anywhere between the 5-8 seed without him. 

Strongly disagree.  The way the Lakers are currently constructed, you take Mamba off the team, you have a slightly better version of the current Utah Jazz.  And the Jazz played with Deron Williams for over half the season.  So the Deron Williams for half the season completely eliminates the slight edge that the Kobeless Lakers would have over the Jazz.  The Jazz have won 36 games this year.

Just sayin.  Back to the topic.

QFT.

Lakers without kobe will basically be the memphis grizzlies of '04-'06.
  

 

[westcoastsfinest]

Originally Posted by dland24

Originally Posted by acidicality

IMO, the Lakers team would absolutely be a playoff team in the West without Kobe. Their frontcourt alone is enough to give many teams problems, and having a great frontcourt in the NBA (and basketball, in general) is a recipe for success. I'd put them anywhere between the 5-8 seed without him. 

Strongly disagree.  The way the Lakers are currently constructed, you take Mamba off the team, you have a slightly better version of the current Utah Jazz.  And the Jazz played with Deron Williams for over half the season.  So the Deron Williams for half the season completely eliminates the slight edge that the Kobeless Lakers would have over the Jazz.  The Jazz have won 36 games this year.

Just sayin.  Back to the topic.

QFT.

Lakers without kobe will basically be the memphis grizzlies of '04-'06.
  

 

[lukethejediknight]

"He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP."

You act as if this is something to be ashamed about

 

[lukethejediknight]

"He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP."

You act as if this is something to be ashamed about

 

[luong1209]

Anti LeBron people will always find something to NOT like about him.

 

[luong1209]

Anti LeBron people will always find something to NOT like about him.

 

[bc2310]

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

"He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP."

You act as if this is something to be ashamed about

He wants to make himself his own brand (the biggest brand). He took some steps back with 'the decision.' I'm not mad at him. Just sayin
On another note, he could prolly pull some strings and get his moms on the next seas of celebrity rehab

 

[bc2310]

Originally Posted by LuketheJediKnight

"He could have chose Winning, Chicago. Loyalty, Cleveland, Immortality, New York. In the end he chose HELP."

You act as if this is something to be ashamed about

He wants to make himself his own brand (the biggest brand). He took some steps back with 'the decision.' I'm not mad at him. Just sayin
On another note, he could prolly pull some strings and get his moms on the next seas of celebrity rehab