The Official Rick Ross Appreciation Thread. TEFLON DON JULY 20th

All I came to Say is that John jr and Carmine Gotti aint gonna do $%*@ ..

Yea that's their Bloodline ..

But them $!*!+# ain't bout the Father's/Grandfather's Life ..

The Gangsta Legacy Died with John Gotti when he got sentenced..

And he was a sucker in Jail , Got the Breaks beat off him .. This I know from Old Heads who was in Prison with him ..
 
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Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley

Word??...

Neva said that, I just KNOW a sucka when I see one...

I see one in you...

How you think you could EVER punk me on the internet if you couldn't punk me in the streets?? What part of the game is that...
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lol you can't see me though, thanks for proving my point about running your mouth about things you know nothing about... internet tuff guy
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You're a coward... If YOU or ANYone else has a problem with what I say...

DO somethin about it... Its a small world...

Much too small for someone like YOU to feel comfortable enuff talkin to someone like ME like that...

What part of the game is that??

But I guess I'm bein an "internet tuff guy" for askin you to live by the BS you type to get attention from other men... You tellin me to "shut up" online, in the safty of your home, but I'd bet MY life as well as YOURS you wouldn't take that tone with me in real life...

You have EVERY oppurtunity to prove me wrong...

So you look up to John Gotti, Ricky Ross, Big Meech, etc. I guess you wanna give all these "Real Gangsta's" a HJ for being so hard. Who cares what they think? They haven't earned anything but the opportunity to rot in jail.

He's getting paper and he ain't gotta commit crimes to do it? How is that a bad thing? I don't care if he's fake, it's entertainment. I deal with fake people every day at work. Hell, I gotta act happy and smile and pretend to have mainstream opinions when I don't want to, but it's keeping food on the table. Do what you gotta do to pay the bills, and don't worry about what other people think.
Another guy that can't read...

Where did I say I look up to John Gotti, Ricky Ross, Big Meech??
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 Now you wanna get disrespectful... What part of the game is that??

How you goin say:
Who cares what they think? They haven't earned anything but the opportunity to rot in jail.
Then turn around and say:
Do what you gotta do to pay the bills, and don't worry about what other people think.
You think they were commiting crimes because it was fun?? They was makin a way for themselves and their family...

How would you feel if a N took ya grandfathers moniker and was tryin to make money off that image?? I guess it wouldn't matter to a person that thinks like you as long as the beats were DOPE...

It just so happened to be deemed illegal by a set of rules that wern't written by the ancestors of John Gotti, Rick Ross or Big Meech... What they did is no different then what corperate execs do, or what the cut throats on Wall St do... So to speak down upon another man because of his actions being condemend by a racists backwards soceity makes you look stupid...

I'm not sayin any of the 3 of those dudes were choir boys, no one would say that, but the people that may have died due to their actions were involved in the SAME lifestyle, so if you don't feel sorry for the victor for being a "gangsta" how can you feel sorry for the victin for being a statistic that wasn't stropng enuff to withstand the vengence of the lifestyle they chose to lead?? Its no difference... None of those 3 asked for, nor do they want OUR sorrow... They did what they did, knew the consequences and chose to go that route ANYway...

My issue is with someone that lived an honest life, by the book acting as if he lived a life contrary to that in order to feed their family as if being in the street is fun and glamerous... That ##!+ is wrong, you guys can call it entertainment if you want, but tell that to those actually effected by the conditions some of these rappers make their living off of exploiting...
  
All I came to Say is that John jr and Carmine Gotti aint gonna do $%*@ ..

Yea that's their Bloodline ..

But them $!*!+# ain't bout the Father's/Grandfather's Life ..
Carmine isn't about that life... As he shouldn't be, he grew up privelaged because of the work his granfather and uncle put in...

But if you think John Gotti Jr isn't capable of doin ANYthing to a rapper you are sadly mistaken...

John Gotti Jr is a chip off the OLD block, the moment he is bothered by Rock Ross using that moniker, a lot of Ns on NT is gonna have to find a NEW fav rapper...

Gotti Jr may not be as smart as his father, but he's JUST as ruthless...

Has/had MORE power than Big Meech or Larry Hoover to be completely honest... & no disrespect to those 2 brothas either... But lets just be real about it...
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Ross music is good.

To be honest thats all I really know about him and I probably wont meet him

so lets quit with the bickering lol
 
Listen Fam ..

John Jr ..

Isn't gonna do $$!% man ..

I'm POSITIVE he's heard Ross ..

If he anything he shouldve been said something, if he felt some way about it

If he speaks on it .. He'll just speak on it ..

That's about it ..

And to say he has more power then Meech ( when he was free) and King Larry (Both Free and in Prison)?!

You buggin ..

If anything Larry/Meech are SELF MADE and was RESPECTED

John Jr was just a beneficiary of being the Son John Gotti ..

What work has put in? Prolly none ..

Like I said the Gambino family Power Died when John sr. got sentenced ..

I wouldn't be surprised if the Feds are keeping a close eye on the family to this day ..

But it's whatever G ..

Make me no difference ..
 
Originally Posted by MASERATI HARM

Listen Fam ..

John Jr ..

Isn't gonna do $*%! man ..

I'm POSITIVE he's heard Ross ..

If he anything he shouldve been said something, if he felt some way about it

If he speaks on it .. He'll just speak on it ..

That's about it ..

And to say he has more power then Meech ( when he was free) and King Larry (Both Free and in Prison)?!

You buggin ..

If anything Larry/Meech are SELF MADE and was RESPECTED

John Jr was just a beneficiary of being the Son John Gotti ..

What work has put in? Prolly none ..

Like I said the Gambino family Power Died when John sr. got sentenced ..

I wouldn't be surprised if the Feds are keeping a close eye on the family to this day ..

But it's whatever G ..

Make me no difference ..
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Did you HAVE to post that 3 times My G...
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Gotti Jr is worried about ANOTHER fed indictment and being housed with people that seek employment in William Robert's old profession...

While William Roberts tries to convince kids that he lived the life of a Gotti or Gotti Jr...

Their priorities are TOTALLY different, Gotti Jr is trying to ERASE the reputation that he and his name have built for him, while Wiliam Roberts is trying to solidify his credibility off of the names of others...

To say John Gotti Jr never put in work just lets me know your uninformed on the subject, he's faced and essentially beat the VERY charges that got Hoover, Meech and his father put away for life...

He's as SELF MADE as ANYone else, cause in reality he'd be dead if he didn't put in work... On a physical, street level did put MORE work than his father ever did or had to...
  
He NEVER claimed to be a gangster (tho he is), he shuns ANY comparison to his father (tho it's justified), he's damn near dedicated the last 6-8 years of his life trying to erase the history of his name because at any given moment he'll face ANOTHER fed case...

When the day ends, Rick Ross steps out the booth and becomes William Roberts, and doesn't have to face the same circumstances as those he tries to emulate in his music...

That obviously doesn't bother some...
 
Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley

Originally Posted by undefinedinc

Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley

Word??...

Neva said that, I just KNOW a sucka when I see one...

I see one in you...

How you think you could EVER punk me on the internet if you couldn't punk me in the streets?? What part of the game is that...
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lol you can't see me though, thanks for proving my point about running your mouth about things you know nothing about... internet tuff guy
ohwell.gif
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You're a coward... If YOU or ANYone else has a problem with what I say...

DO somethin about it... Its a small world...

Much too small for someone like YOU to feel comfortable enuff talkin to someone like ME like that...

What part of the game is that??

But I guess I'm bein an "internet tuff guy" for askin you to live by the BS you type to get attention from other men... You tellin me to "shut up" online, in the safty of your home, but I'd bet MY life as well as YOURS you wouldn't take that tone with me in real life...

You have EVERY oppurtunity to prove me wrong...

So you look up to John Gotti, Ricky Ross, Big Meech, etc. I guess you wanna give all these "Real Gangsta's" a HJ for being so hard. Who cares what they think? They haven't earned anything but the opportunity to rot in jail.

He's getting paper and he ain't gotta commit crimes to do it? How is that a bad thing? I don't care if he's fake, it's entertainment. I deal with fake people every day at work. Hell, I gotta act happy and smile and pretend to have mainstream opinions when I don't want to, but it's keeping food on the table. Do what you gotta do to pay the bills, and don't worry about what other people think.
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Another guy that can't read...

Where did I say I look up to John Gotti, Ricky Ross, Big Meech??
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 Now you wanna get disrespectful... What part of the game is that??

How you goin say:
Who cares what they think? They haven't earned anything but the opportunity to rot in jail.
Then turn around and say:
Do what you gotta do to pay the bills, and don't worry about what other people think.
You think they were commiting crimes because it was fun?? They was makin a way for themselves and their family...

How would you feel if a N took ya grandfathers moniker and was tryin to make money off that image?? I guess it wouldn't matter to a person that thinks like you as long as the beats were DOPE...

It just so happened to be deemed illegal by a set of rules that wern't written by the ancestors of John Gotti, Rick Ross or Big Meech... What they did is no different then what corperate execs do, or what the cut throats on Wall St do... So to speak down upon another man because of his actions being condemend by a racists backwards soceity makes you look stupid...

I'm not sayin any of the 3 of those dudes were choir boys, no one would say that, but the people that may have died due to their actions were involved in the SAME lifestyle, so if you don't feel sorry for the victor for being a "gangsta" how can you feel sorry for the victin for being a statistic that wasn't stropng enuff to withstand the vengence of the lifestyle they chose to lead?? Its no difference... None of those 3 asked for, nor do they want OUR sorrow... They did what they did, knew the consequences and chose to go that route ANYway...

My issue is with someone that lived an honest life, by the book acting as if he lived a life contrary to that in order to feed their family as if being in the street is fun and glamerous... That ##!+ is wrong, you guys can call it entertainment if you want, but tell that to those actually effected by the conditions some of these rappers make their living off of exploiting...
  
All I came to Say is that John jr and Carmine Gotti aint gonna do $%*@ ..

Yea that's their Bloodline ..

But them $!*!+# ain't bout the Father's/Grandfather's Life ..
Carmine isn't about that life... As he shouldn't be, he grew up privelaged because of the work his granfather and uncle put in...

But if you think John Gotti Jr isn't capable of doin ANYthing to a rapper you are sadly mistaken...

John Gotti Jr is a chip off the OLD block, the moment he is bothered by Rock Ross using that moniker, a lot of Ns on NT is gonna have to find a NEW fav rapper...

Gotti Jr may not be as smart as his father, but he's JUST as ruthless...

Has/had MORE power than Big Meech or Larry Hoover to be completely honest... & no disrespect to those 2 brothas either... But lets just be real about it...

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Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley

The sensative guy from the Drake Thread...

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Your Stupid if you want kiss Drake's %*% then go ahead. We are talking about RICK ROSS
 
Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley

Music aside...

Ross Is Just Offending Too Many REAL Gangstas, Tryin To Impress Everyday People...

I like what Carmine said, John Gotti EARNED that nickname, the SAME way Freeway Ricky Ross EARNED his, this N is just tryin take other Ns lives...

Just like with "BMF" N talkin bout, "I think I'm Big Meeeeeech... Larry Hoover"... Nah, YOU think you Rick Ross, But YOU William Leonard Roberts...

Don't get me wrong the N makes good music, but if there's no beat being played in the background, I could NEVER listen to what this N gotta say, cause his REAL life doesn't exist, he's bought into his own image... Its gonna end up costing him in the long run, weather that be financially, or having to pay with his life...
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Real Talk.
I was trying to explain this to my homeboy the other day.

I enjoy Ross's music but I'll never buy his cd out of the store.

I just can't contribute to his act. (If that makes any sense)
 
I wonder if Gotti 'nem got BIG killed, kuz he was the first "rapper" to coin the phrase "Teflon Don".

I understand everything Nay is sayin and agree to a certain extent, but Ross
isnt the first and wont be the last rapper to "use" a real gangster's name or
show some type of appreciation. Albeit he lived a total different lifestyle than
the one he currently portrays.

Dude is a clown that makes good music. If someone feels a certain, we're gonna have to wait for them to express their point of view.
/discussion
 
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@ Carmine being mad.

If Ross threw those boys in one of his current videos (like Fat Joe) he probably wouldn't have said @@@*.
 
Gotti Jr is worried about ANOTHER fed indictment and being housed with people that seek employment in William Robert's old profession...



EXACTLY WHY I SAID THIS ..


Listen Fam ..


John Jr ..

Isn't gonna do $*%! man ..

I'm POSITIVE he's heard Ross ..

If he anything he shouldve been said something, if he felt some way about it

If he speaks on it .. He'll just speak on it ..

That's about it ..


While William Roberts tries to convince kids that he lived the life of a Gotti or Gotti Jr...



No different than any other rapper except Ross got exposed .. He's not the first nor the last that is gonna convince kids that they are who they say they are ..

Their priorities are TOTALLY different, Gotti Jr is trying to ERASE the reputation that he and his name have built for him, while Wiliam Roberts is trying to solidify his credibility off of the names of others...


first part .. Refer to the 1st answer .. Second part Refer the 2nd answer


He's as SELF MADE as ANYone else, cause in reality he'd be dead if he didn't put in work... On a physical, street level did put MORE work than his father ever did or had to...



His name Gains him respect .. He didn't start from the Bottom Like Meech And Larry or John Gotti ..



To say John Gotti Jr never put in work just lets me know your uninformed on the subject, he's faced and essentially beat the
VERY charges that got Hoover, Meech and his father put away for life...




Please inform me then ..

@##%%$ know I love talking about street and gangsta +$!# .. I have no problem learning new +$!# ..

But whatever he Faced .. wasn't NEARLY as bad as to what them 3 had to deal with..

+$!# would've been headline news ..

And I said PROLLY He could have or he couldn't have .. His Name is a double edge sword ..



He NEVER claimed to be a gangster (tho he is), he shuns ANY comparison to his father (tho it's justified), he's damn near dedicated the last 6-8 years of his life trying to erase the history of his name because at any given moment he'll face ANOTHER fed case...



refer to my 1st answer please ..


Check it This +$!# don't bother me any .. Cuz it's ENTERTAINMENT ... +$!# is WWE ..

ART imitates Life ...

85% of these rappers haven't done HALF the +$!# they rap about ..

Yet you sitting here still bothered , Writing thesis and +$!# ..

If you don't rock with him cool .. thats what it is ..

but you're pouring TOO much energy into this +$!# ..

Like I said from Jump Street .. JGjr isn't gonna do +$!# , you trippin if you believe he is
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Eminem’s four-play may well be about to end.
The hip-hop superstar’s four straight weeks at #1 with his Shady/Aftermath/ Interscope album Recovery is being threatened this week by Def Jam/IDJ Miami rapper Rick Ross, whose Teflon Don is on target to do between 170-180k in sales.
 
Yall give rappers more credit then the guys who they try to emulate in their music...

You can't compare what Ross does to what other rappers have done...

How many COs are there rapping as if their druglords out there??

Just like dude from YouTube said, William Leonard Roberts used to watch Ns that did the crimes he glorifies in his music, take showers and check they %*$ for razors...

Of course there prolly no rappers that are 100% real, but THIS N is 100% FAKE...
 
Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt

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@ Carmine being mad.

If Ross threw those boys in one of his current videos (like Fat Joe) he probably wouldn't have said @@@*.
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Yeah I get that same vibe, too.
Dude just saw a opportunity to get his name in the paper...he don't really give a #!%+...
 
Originally Posted by The Kid Nimley


Yall give rappers more credit then the guys who they try to emulate in their music...

You can't compare what Ross does to what other rappers have done...

How many COs are there rapping as if their druglords out there??


Just like dude from YouTube said, William Leonard Roberts used to watch Ns that did the crimes he glorifies in his music, take showers and check they %@$ for razors...

Of course there prolly no rappers that are 100% real, but THIS N is 100% FAKE...
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Yall give rappers more credit then the guys who they try to emulate in their music...


How am I giving these ##++$$ Credit When Say More than 85% of them .. ( including your heroes) .. haven't lived the life they rap about

You can't compare what Ross does to what other rappers have done...


Why can't I ?

Rappers LIE ..When Nas was going thru that Escobar Phase did you think he was flippin keys in his raps?

What made him more believable? When he was on that same @%$@?

The Wu? When they was calling them selves Wu-Gambino's?

How many COs are there rapping as if their druglords out there??


As far ##++$$ know.. just ross

But whats your point?

there plenty of rapper who have had worse transgression than being a CO ..

ALOT We don't/won't know about ..

Hel,l Mase got caught with a ****** .. But because he's irrelevant , No one thinks about it ..

Like I said ..

You wasting too much energy on Trivial @%$@ ..

There is a PLETHORA of CB4 ##++$$ .. Ross isn't the 1st nor will he be the last ..

@%$@ got you lookin like you be losin' sleep over this @%$@ ..

I like his music ,, @%$@ can't be denied .. even you gave the $@$!* his props ..

I just leave the @%$@ at that
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