This retro model > the OG's

I thought the CDP version of the xvi was actually a little better than the og.  The red stripe around the bottom was painted better and they were pretty much the same shoe otherwise.  Wish we could get the earlier J retros made closer to ogs.
 
idk the OGs look better in my opinion. the CDP 17's got way too dirty easily IMO.
 
EXACTLY

03 retros were dope,  the 09 bred 12s were whack

To begin with, the 2009 flugames were never meant to imitate the black/reds as it uses completely different upper. The 23 is also red instead of black.
Im sure jb will re-retro the black/reds XII with black tumbled leather sooner or later.
 
On the XII's:  Leather > Buck in my opinion.  However, I have the 09's and love them.  I wear the crap out of them and other than the slightly ashy sole, due to age, they still look brand new.  0 creasing.  I also have the black/black low 12's in durabuck.  Two of my fav pair of J's to wear out with no worries of them looking like ***** by the time I get home.  And, I didn't have to kill 6 people to cop. 

The 17's:  Buck > Leather in my opinion.

Disclaimer:  I've never killed anyone for anything.  Just in case big brother gets a hair up is rectum.
 
og infrared VI > retro infrared VI

og black red 12s> flu game 12s
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The suede on the 17 & 18 were dusty and scuff prone.

Now if they were to reretro those CDP18s with high grain leather . . . Maaaaannnnnnn!
 
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