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The optimist in me reads that as in the calendar year, like within the next 5 weeks 
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A healthy MEJ would be a bigger impact than Aldon imo.
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That's fact.
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No doubt. Jelly and Justin not gettin pressure up the middle. Latham and Autry been a surprise tho.
If healthy tho, MEJ would be the missing piece that's hurtin us right now.
If healthy tho, MEJ would be the missing piece that's hurtin us right now.
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It's hard to say having MEJ throughout the season makes us any better record-wise. Maybe the Falcons game is different.
Moreso, it would have given us perhaps more comfortable wins. But there's something to be said about this young team fighting each week for a win and coming out on top. That kind of experience is normally very limited and takes place over years. The confidence we've gained this season cannot be overstated.
Moreso, it would have given us perhaps more comfortable wins. But there's something to be said about this young team fighting each week for a win and coming out on top. That kind of experience is normally very limited and takes place over years. The confidence we've gained this season cannot be overstated.
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yeah, MEJ could have contributed to less stressful wins for sure.
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Autry has played surprisingly well. Didn't he block a PAT yesterday?
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Crabtree sharing wisdom.
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Love this team man 
Sucks I was able to be more active on here when we were trash but it's good to see all of us that stuck this **** out finally seeing some of this waiting pay off.
Can only imagine how good we'd be if McG was running the offense
Sucks I was able to be more active on here when we were trash but it's good to see all of us that stuck this **** out finally seeing some of this waiting pay off.
Can only imagine how good we'd be if McG was running the offense
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Just look at Mack's stats last year. His number went up when MEJ became a starter.
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had it rough since making Raiders and clippers my team since 05Love this team man
Sucks I was able to be more active on here when we were trash but it's good to see all of us that stuck this **** out finally seeing some of this waiting pay off.
Can only imagine how good we'd be if McG was running the offense
just glad to see we finally got a QB that doesn't think running is what a QB should do.
and is it 100% for sure they're moving to Vegas? cuz if so I might have to change my team... I won't support a damn Las Vegas team
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Word, that's what I was alluding to
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Didnt know the number from the offense but you knew it was good. But the surprise of 0 pts from the defense is crazy
Didnt know the number from the offense but you knew it was good. But the surprise of 0 pts from the defense is crazy
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still can't believe Olsen didnt bring that catch in
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It was a tough throw from Cam and a tough catch for Olsen to make.
If Cam could have literally dropped it between the LB's and the Safety they deserved that tie...Glad he felt that pressure coming from the edge
If Cam could have literally dropped it between the LB's and the Safety they deserved that tie...Glad he felt that pressure coming from the edge
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yeah it would have been tough but he had it in his hands, I expected him to come down with it. obviously i'm glad he didnt tho
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At some point you just gotta wonder if this is some Angels in the Outfield scenario...We got SD botching FG's. Greg Olsen dropping a big time pass. Lasers being shot into Brock
Bruh, I BELIEVE!!!!!
Bruh, I BELIEVE!!!!!
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So I read on ESPN that there's talk of us playing in Mexico City again next year.
Against the Patriots.
Here's the link: http://dlvr.it/MmZ09m
Against the Patriots.
Here's the link: http://dlvr.it/MmZ09m
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At some point you just gotta wonder if this is some Angels in the Outfield scenario...We got SD botching FG's. Greg Olsen dropping a big time pass. Lasers being shot into Brock
Bruh, I BELIEVE!!!!!
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here's Carr and Mack's cleats for this week
Khalil
Derek
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Khalil
Derek
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Damn those are clean. What are they sponsoring tho?
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I think it looks like Mack is supporting a family member and Carr has the name of this son Dallas and Valley Children health care.
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I'm guessing Khalil's is domestic violence related cause of the color scheme.
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Mack is probably Lupus.
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[h2]Outline emerges of Oakland stadium deal to keep Raiders[/h2]
By Matier & Ross
November 29, 2016 Updated: November 29, 2016 4:36pm
With the clock ticking, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf is betting big that a combination of $600 million in private money from Ronnie Lott’s investment group, $200 million in public money and an equal amount from the National Football League will be enough to keep the stadium-hungry Raiders from moving to Las Vegas.
At this point, the deal — which is being shuttled between the Oakland City Council and the Alameda County Board of Supervisors for approval — is just a broad outline of possible funding sources. There has been no input from Raiders owner Mark Davis, who down the road may be asked to sell part of the team to Lott and his partners.
“That’s something they will talk about after the stadium deal gets done,” said one source who is privy to the talks but not authorized to speak on the record.
Davis would be asked to kick in an additional $300 million.
Still unresolved is the outstanding $95 million city and county debt from the Coliseum renovation that lured the Raiders back from Los Angeles in the 1990s, according to a knowledgeable source.
[h4]ALSO[/h4]
Nevertheless, with the NFL poised to vote on a Raiders move to Las Vegas as early as January, the heat is on for Oakland to come up with a plan countering the deal being offered by casino king Sheldon Adelson, which includes $750 million in hotel tax money already approved by the state of Nevada.
In Oakland, both the city and Alameda County would be asked to put plenty of skin in the game. Under terms of the deal being proposed, sources say, the city and county would jointly put up $200 million to upgrade infrastructure at the Coliseum site. That money would be repaid from revenue generated by the stadium project.
The city and county would also lease 125 acres of Coliseum property to the Oakland City Pro Football Group, led by former 49er and Raider Lott and fellow former NFL player Rodney Peete. About 90 acres would be reserved for the new 55,000- to 58,000-seat stadium, plus about 8,500 parking spaces. The remaining 35 acres would be devoted to a mixed-use retail development, probably featuring restaurants, sports bars and other forms of entertainment — plus, possibly, a hotel.
In exchange, the city and county would share some percentage of non-football revenues at the stadium — from concerts, soccer matches, college football championships and the like — plus new taxes generated by the commercial development. There has been talk that some of the money could be used to pay the debt from the 1990s.
The big money behind the deal would come from Fortress Investment Group of New York, which sources say has pledged up to $600 million.
While declining to discuss specifics, Gordon Runté, managing director at Fortress, confirmed for the first time Tuesday that his group is working with others “to structure a stadium financing and development deal that we believe would provide an attractive alternative for the Oakland Raiders.”
“A lot of work remains to be done,” he added, “but we are pleased with progress made to date in creating a framework for a potential deal.”
Add in the Raiders’ money and $200 million from the NFL stadium building fund, and you have a development deal worth north of $1.3 billion.
Right now, however, Schaaf needs to show she has the backing of Alameda County supervisors and the Oakland City Council, which jointly oversee the stadium site.
The mayor fumbled the snap on her first play for approval when she announced out of the blue on KTVU-TV that she was sending the deal to the Alameda County Board of Supervisors for a preview in closed session last week.
“It was a holiday week — we didn’t even have a full board,” said one county supervisor who asked not to be named because of the sensitive nature of the talks.
The supervisor said the deal was also lacking a “stress test” by independent auditors to see whether the income projections would hold up in an economic downturn and not leave taxpayers holding a mega-million dollar bag of debt, as happened with the 1990s deal.
As a result, the Board of Supervisors took no action, but some members were left fuming at what they perceived as grandstanding by the mayor.
The next stop was a closed session review by the Oakland City Council on Tuesday.
It’s the second time that the “outline” of the deal was presented to the council. The first, delivered last month, was met with a flurry of questions.
One sticking point the Oakland deal sidesteps is the call for Davis to take on Lott and his partners as minority owners — something the NFL reportedly would like to see happen, but which also would mean another set of complicated negotiations.
Instead, the plan is to present the outline directly to NFL owners — along with votes of support from city and county officials — to show that the locals are ready to put up serious money to keep the team in place.
The hope is that the show of support will be enough for the NFL owners to block the team’s move to Nevada and open the door to the locals talking directly with Davis, which he has refused to do as long as the Las Vegas deal is on the table.
And what happens to the Oakland A’s, who share a home with the Raiders at the Coliseum?
Team officials have already made it clear they’re willing to give up their Coliseum lease if the Raiders stay.
And in fact, the A’s — who just announced a major shakeup of their front office — are more focused than ever on finding a new home closer to downtown. The mayor and the Port of Oakland are pressing the team to build a ballpark at Howard Terminal, just north of Jack London Square.
Whether Schaaf can pull it all together in time for the NFL meeting remains to be seen. Alameda County supervisors are not taking well to Schaaf trying to call the shots. Her relations with the Oakland City Council are rocky as well, with members feeling they are being given a back seat in the negotiations.
It’s also interesting to note that Schaaf has no vote on the county board and can only vote at the City Council if there is a tie.
On the other hand, the Raiders are winning, and recent polls show that 30 percent of Oakland voters feel that keeping the team should be a high priority.
By Matier & Ross
November 29, 2016 Updated: November 29, 2016 4:36pm
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With the clock ticking, Oakland Mayor Libby Schaaf is betting big that a combination of $600 million in private money from Ronnie Lott’s investment group, $200 million in public money and an equal amount from the National Football League will be enough to keep the stadium-hungry Raiders from moving to Las Vegas.
At this point, the deal — which is being shuttled between the Oakland City Council and the Alameda County Board of Supervisors for approval — is just a broad outline of possible funding sources. There has been no input from Raiders owner Mark Davis, who down the road may be asked to sell part of the team to Lott and his partners.
“That’s something they will talk about after the stadium deal gets done,” said one source who is privy to the talks but not authorized to speak on the record.
Davis would be asked to kick in an additional $300 million.
Still unresolved is the outstanding $95 million city and county debt from the Coliseum renovation that lured the Raiders back from Los Angeles in the 1990s, according to a knowledgeable source.
[h4]ALSO[/h4]
Outline emerges of Oakland stadium deal to keep Raiders
Raiders quarterback Derek Carr grabs win with only 9 fingers
Nevertheless, with the NFL poised to vote on a Raiders move to Las Vegas as early as January, the heat is on for Oakland to come up with a plan countering the deal being offered by casino king Sheldon Adelson, which includes $750 million in hotel tax money already approved by the state of Nevada.
In Oakland, both the city and Alameda County would be asked to put plenty of skin in the game. Under terms of the deal being proposed, sources say, the city and county would jointly put up $200 million to upgrade infrastructure at the Coliseum site. That money would be repaid from revenue generated by the stadium project.
The city and county would also lease 125 acres of Coliseum property to the Oakland City Pro Football Group, led by former 49er and Raider Lott and fellow former NFL player Rodney Peete. About 90 acres would be reserved for the new 55,000- to 58,000-seat stadium, plus about 8,500 parking spaces. The remaining 35 acres would be devoted to a mixed-use retail development, probably featuring restaurants, sports bars and other forms of entertainment — plus, possibly, a hotel.
In exchange, the city and county would share some percentage of non-football revenues at the stadium — from concerts, soccer matches, college football championships and the like — plus new taxes generated by the commercial development. There has been talk that some of the money could be used to pay the debt from the 1990s.
The big money behind the deal would come from Fortress Investment Group of New York, which sources say has pledged up to $600 million.
While declining to discuss specifics, Gordon Runté, managing director at Fortress, confirmed for the first time Tuesday that his group is working with others “to structure a stadium financing and development deal that we believe would provide an attractive alternative for the Oakland Raiders.”
“A lot of work remains to be done,” he added, “but we are pleased with progress made to date in creating a framework for a potential deal.”
Add in the Raiders’ money and $200 million from the NFL stadium building fund, and you have a development deal worth north of $1.3 billion.
Right now, however, Schaaf needs to show she has the backing of Alameda County supervisors and the Oakland City Council, which jointly oversee the stadium site.
The mayor fumbled the snap on her first play for approval when she announced out of the blue on KTVU-TV that she was sending the deal to the Alameda County Board of Supervisors for a preview in closed session last week.
“It was a holiday week — we didn’t even have a full board,” said one county supervisor who asked not to be named because of the sensitive nature of the talks.
The supervisor said the deal was also lacking a “stress test” by independent auditors to see whether the income projections would hold up in an economic downturn and not leave taxpayers holding a mega-million dollar bag of debt, as happened with the 1990s deal.
As a result, the Board of Supervisors took no action, but some members were left fuming at what they perceived as grandstanding by the mayor.
The next stop was a closed session review by the Oakland City Council on Tuesday.
It’s the second time that the “outline” of the deal was presented to the council. The first, delivered last month, was met with a flurry of questions.
One sticking point the Oakland deal sidesteps is the call for Davis to take on Lott and his partners as minority owners — something the NFL reportedly would like to see happen, but which also would mean another set of complicated negotiations.
Instead, the plan is to present the outline directly to NFL owners — along with votes of support from city and county officials — to show that the locals are ready to put up serious money to keep the team in place.
The hope is that the show of support will be enough for the NFL owners to block the team’s move to Nevada and open the door to the locals talking directly with Davis, which he has refused to do as long as the Las Vegas deal is on the table.
And what happens to the Oakland A’s, who share a home with the Raiders at the Coliseum?
Team officials have already made it clear they’re willing to give up their Coliseum lease if the Raiders stay.
And in fact, the A’s — who just announced a major shakeup of their front office — are more focused than ever on finding a new home closer to downtown. The mayor and the Port of Oakland are pressing the team to build a ballpark at Howard Terminal, just north of Jack London Square.
Whether Schaaf can pull it all together in time for the NFL meeting remains to be seen. Alameda County supervisors are not taking well to Schaaf trying to call the shots. Her relations with the Oakland City Council are rocky as well, with members feeling they are being given a back seat in the negotiations.
It’s also interesting to note that Schaaf has no vote on the county board and can only vote at the City Council if there is a tie.
On the other hand, the Raiders are winning, and recent polls show that 30 percent of Oakland voters feel that keeping the team should be a high priority.
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