TX Muslim student arrested after bringing homemade clock to school. vol SMH

[Armada]

You shouldn't have

If you think those are the only relevant pieces of information, then I don't know what to tell you. Thanks for sprinkling in some "maybe's" and "probably's" for good measure, really fortifies the conclusion that you've seemed to come to.

Rhetorical question: What was given to the public? What did they react to? How did they react? etc. etc.
Hint: look at the title of the thread

I know you're better than that, b

I'm out, due to lost of interest, not the other one...

And i'm sure you didn't mean to rep it either 

 Should wait till I finish typing next time 

These are not the only pieces of information that are relevant I should have added more. Although I did mention their is a racial component to it.

And if we where just given that information are you saying thats not what happened, then what did happen?

And I can see the conclusion you have came to as well since you want to assume what mines is. 

You seem to be one of those dudes that waits for "facts" to come out that support what they already believe but won't say it yet because they want to pretend to be impartial, but when the facts you're looking for don't come out will just ignore the story.

Also a thread title on NT does not represent what the public was "given"

 But if you're out you're out.

 

[gwap]

exposed

 

[getyashinebox]

And i'm sure you didn't mean to rep it either   Should wait till I finish typing next time 

These are not the only pieces of information that are relevant I should have added more. Although I did mention their is a racial component to it.

And if we where just given that information are you saying thats not what happened, then what did happen?

And I can see the conclusion you have came to as well since you want to assume what mines is. 

You seem to be one of those dudes that waits for "facts" to come out that support what they want it to be even though it isn't and will just ignore the story if the facts you're looking for never come out.

 But if you're out you're out.

I'm compelled to respond, one more

You seem like one of those dudes that tries desperately to make something out of nothing. You're also not very astute, because your insinuation could not be further off the mark. But thanks for admitting your leaving out info, good man for that.

OF course I meant a rep, you're an upstanding gentleman, and I really mean it, because you resisted the urge to deflect (normally happens when I chime in ), I appreciate meaningful dialogue, opportunity for growth

 

[RustyShackleford]

exposed

 

[Armada]

I think the people that are trying to make something out of nothing are the people saying the kid planned to where a NASA shirt and that this dudes dad knew how the media as a whole and the president would react 

 but okay. 

And yeah I forgot to mention some facts by accident, i was trying to respond to quick thats on me.

 

[Nawzlew]

smart young man

Man just looking at that description ...

Kid wasn't invited to the White House because he built a clock. He was invited because of his treatment by his school and being labelled as a suspected terrorist.

 

[gwap]

man... why did bush sr. invite eazy e to the whitehouse instead of flava flav?

what is the world coming to?

 

[wr]

So it is less relevant because of who said it?

Considering what he was saying,

You misquote Bill Maher as saying not to take sides, yet he takes a side.

So yes, it is less relevant.

 

[jchambers]

So it is less relevant because of who said it?

Considering what he was saying,

You misquote Bill Maher as saying not to take sides, yet he takes a side.

So yes, it is less relevant.

I didn't misquote him. I wrongly attributed the quote to Bill Maher. Ok, Chris Matthews said that when events like this happen, everyone rushes to their battle stations without reviewing the facts. This is true and it applies to most of the posters here. People like RushtyShackleford were on the first page calling racism and he hasn't successfully argued against any of the facts that I have presented. I didn't even get in here until page 15 or so, and that was after I had read at least 30 different articles on the subject from left and right wing sources, both mainstream and alternative. Gwap doesn't understand the difference between Capitalism and Materialism and you are really the least relevant thing here.

 

[gwap]

 

 

So it is less relevant because of who said it?

Considering what he was saying,

You misquote Bill Maher as saying not to take sides, yet he takes a side.

So yes, it is less relevant.

I didn't misquote him. I wrongly attributed the quote to Bill Maher. Ok, Chris Matthews said that when events like this happen, everyone rushes to their battle stations without reviewing the facts. This is true and it applies to most of the posters here. People like RushtyShackleford were on the first page calling racism and he hasn't successfully argued against any of the facts that I have presented. I didn't even get in here until page 15 or so, and that was after I had read at least 30 different articles on the subject from left and right wing sources, both mainstream and alternative. Gwap doesn't understand the difference between Capitalism and Materialism and you are really the least relevant thing here.

yep.... damn those materialistic socialists.....

 

[RustyShackleford]

You haven't presented any facts though, none

Just conjecture

Lets not forget you started in this thread saying we should look at this logically...........the dad planned all this to happen

 

[jchambers]

You haven't presented any facts though, none

Just conjecture

Lets not forget you started in this thread saying we should look at this logically...........the dad planned all this to happen

I haven't clearly illustrated my point with numerous articles and sources?

"RAcist!! TExas!!! they hatin cause he is Muslim!! LIl man deserves a new car and a scholarship....This would never happen to a white kid!!!!"


JChambers posts numerous articles of other black and white children arrested and punished for similar reasons.


"mann,,,, that vid is from Bill Maher, he is white and racist and hates Muslims!"





Son, I have posted more articles in here than anyone and I didn't even get here til the 15th page. You were screamin' injustice on the first page after one CNN article.

 

[RustyShackleford]

You haven't presented any facts though, none

Just conjecture

Lets not forget you started in this thread saying we should look at this logically...........the dad planned all this to happen

I haven't clearly illustrated my point with numerous articles and sources?

"RAcist!! TExas!!! they hatin cause he is Muslim!! LIl man deserves a new car and a scholarship....This would never happen to a white kid!!!!"


JChambers posts numerous articles of other black and white children arrested and punished for similar reasons.


"mann,,,, that vid is from Bill Maher, he is white and racist and hates Muslims!"





Son, I have posted more articles in here than anyone and I didn't even get here til the 15th page. You were screamin' injustice on the first page after one CNN article.

So now you putting words in my mouth, great. All I said they wouldn't have treated a white girl like they did lil man.

And then I pointing out Bill Maher dislikes Muslims, but also talked about the content of your video

You call me pointless to argue with, but you continuously move the goal post around and misrepresent even the "evidence" you present

People like you are the ones going nuts on the race issue. Bringing up Muslim terrorist, ISIS, and all this other irrelevant nonsense

 

[jchambers]

You haven't presented any facts though, none

Just conjecture

Lets not forget you started in this thread saying we should look at this logically...........the dad planned all this to happen

I haven't clearly illustrated my point with numerous articles and sources?

"RAcist!! TExas!!! they hatin cause he is Muslim!! LIl man deserves a new car and a scholarship....This would never happen to a white kid!!!!"


JChambers posts numerous articles of other black and white children arrested and punished for similar reasons.


"mann,,,, that vid is from Bill Maher, he is white and racist and hates Muslims!"





Son, I have posted more articles in here than anyone and I didn't even get here til the 15th page. You were screamin' injustice on the first page after one CNN article.

So now you putting words in my mouth, great. All I said they wouldn't have treated a white girl like they did lil man.

And then I pointing out Bill Maher dislikes Muslims, but also talked about the content of your video

You call me pointless to argue with, but you continuously move the goal post around and misrepresent even the "evidence" you present

People like you are the ones going nuts on the race issue. Bringing up Muslim terrorist, ISIS, and all this other irrelevant nonsense

But they have treated other white and black children in the exact same manner. I previously posted numerous instances of this, your statement has been completely disproven.
Anything said by Bill Maher can be disregarded and is irrelevant. I posted the Maher video to highlight the statement about people like you,Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, etc., who rush to their battle-stations with a predetermined opinion before hearing the full story. I also wanted to highlight the fact that Mark Cuban spoke with Bombclock Boy and said that his sister was coaching him on what to say and that all he had to do was explain the situation, which he didn't do.

 

[RustyShackleford]

No they haven't

One white kid got arrested for having knives on campus. The others were stories of kids getting suspended and expelled. Stop acting like the examples were exactly the same

Plus Ahmed Mohammed's charges got dropped, and the school was ready to welcome him back. So they police and school both realized they goofed

And you keep calling this kid "Bombclock Boy" and trying to act like you don't have an agenda and already made up your mind on this matter

Child Please. Everyone sees right through you

You mad cause the kid ad his family flipped the script on the school and came out way ahead

You salty at a kid flourishin

 

[jchambers]

No they haven't

One white kid got arrested for having knives on campus. The others were stories of kids getting suspended and expelled. Stop acting like the examples were exactly the same

Plus Ahmed Mohammed's charges got dropped, and the school was ready to welcome him back. So they police and school both realized they goofed

And you keep calling this kid "Bombclock Boy" and trying to act like you don't have an agenda and already made up your mind on this matter

Child Please. Everyone sees right through you

You mad cause the kid ad his family flipped the script on the school and came out way ahead

You salty at a kid flourishin

They goofed for investigating a potential bomb threat at a public school? You are BSing about the the other articles that I posted and anyone who actually reads them will be able to see that. I'm not mad about anything. I think that anyone who believes the official narrative here is either uninformed, substantially prejudiced, or using it for a specific agenda. Then there are people like you who just want to be regarded as the most "tolerant" and "progressive", so you will follow along with any story that fits into your narrow worldview.



“this is once removed, right? So I talked to the people in Irving, Texas, that work with people at MacArthur, the school. And I said, ‘What happened? What did you hear?’ This is, again, secondhand. He said, the kid, Ahmed, took the clock, put it in the first class. Teacher said, ‘Great. Looks great. It looks great.’ Kid picks it up, takes it to the second class. Teacher said, ‘Okay, whatever. It’s great. It’s great.’ Ahmed didn’t really comment, from what I heard. Takes it to the third class, same thing. Then he got to a point, again, secondhand, where one of the teachers, an English teacher, apparently, said, ‘Look, you’ve got to put it in your backpack, because it’s going to make some people nervous, and it’s making me nervous.’ And again, secondhand, he didn’t — he wasn’t responsive to it at all. And so, it took six classes before anything happened.”--Mark Cuban

"We attempted to question the juvenile about what it was and he would simply only say it was a clock. He didn't offer any explanation as to what it was for, why he created this device, why he brought it to school," said James McLellan, Irving Police.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So multiple teachers gave him positive reinforcement, kinda seem like a reason why a kid would show it to more and more teacher to get more compliments

 

[jchambers]

So multiple teachers gave him positive reinforcement, kinda seem like a reason why a kid would show it to more and more teacher to get more compliments

He obviously got exactly what he was looking for.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So multiple teachers gave him positive reinforcement, kinda seem like a reason why a kid would show it to more and more teacher to get more compliments

He obviously got exactly what he was looking for.

I you know that he was looking for that negative reaction how?...............................Oh they that's right, you already said, he and his dad can predict the future

 

[duba169]

Bill maher doesn't hate muslims. He hates religion. He thinks the "big 3" religions are bad. Just because he has an opinion on one doing more damage than the others at this point and time... all of a sudden he is dismissed as a biggot. It's surreal. I find it strange that many left leaning people who hate religion become social justice warriors if it involves islam. I don't know when that alliance formed.

They hate religion and advocate rights for gays and women, but they also need to be respective of other cultures on some moral relativism tip. Must walk around with a headache all day.

 

[sea manup]

Bill maher doesn't hate muslims. He hates religion. He thinks the "big 3" religions are bad. Just because he has an opinion on one doing more damage than the others at this point and time... all of a sudden he is dismissed as a biggot. It's surreal. I find it strange that many left leaning people who hate religion become social justice warriors if it involves islam. I don't know when that alliance formed.

it becomes an issue when people of a religion (in this case muslims) are treated differently because of their religion

I will be the first one to engage in a debate with a muslim because I think their religion (along with all other religions) are a sham. But i'll also defend a muslim or any other religious person if he/she is being treated unfairly because of their religion

attack the religious ideals, not the people.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Bill maher doesn't hate muslims. He hates religion. He thinks the "big 3" religions are bad. Just because he has an opinion on one doing more damage than the others at this point and time... all of a sudden he is dismissed as a biggot. It's surreal. I find it strange that many left leaning people who hate religion become social justice warriors if it involves islam. I don't know when that alliance formed.

They hate religion and advocate rights for gays and women, but they also need to be respective of other cultures on some moral relativism tip. Must walk around with a headache all day.

If someone is getting done dirt because they happen to be christian, I will defend them too

I'm Atheist, I'm not a fan or supporter of Islam in anyway

And Maher has a special breed to vitriol for Muslims, unlike the jabs he throws at Christians

 

[jchambers]

Bill maher doesn't hate muslims. He hates religion. He thinks the "big 3" religions are bad. Just because he has an opinion on one doing more damage than the others at this point and time... all of a sudden he is dismissed as a biggot. It's surreal. I find it strange that many left leaning people who hate religion become social justice warriors if it involves islam. I don't know when that alliance formed.

They hate religion and advocate rights for gays and women, but they also need to be respective of other cultures on some moral relativism tip. Must walk around with a headache all day.

If someone is getting done dirt because they happen to be christian, I will defend them too

And Maher has a special breed to vitriol for Muslims, unlike the jabs he throws at Christians

Son, don't be in here straight up lying like that. I dont't remember you supporting any of those Christian children who had the same thing happen to them.





“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”---Eyman Mohamed


http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...med-moahmed-the-most-famous-boy-on-earth.html


So Bombclock boy's sister was previously suspended for terroristic threats in the same school district, but he had no idea that taking a clock apart and putting it in a suitcase would be suspicious?


The kid's father is a member of an organization that has a history of these types of stunts.


http://townhall.com/columnists/kyle...alsehood-that-raises-clock-questions-n2053831


"The school can’t tell its side of the story because the Ahmed’s family won’t allow it:

Irving Independent School District Communications Director Lesley Weaver said there is more information, but it cannot be released without a privacy waiver from the family.

“All they have to do is sign a release form and we’ll be able to give a different perspective of what happened that day in the classroom and the hours following,” she said."


Interesting backstory on the hoax here:


http://www.redstate.com/2015/09/20/standwithahmed-deadly-publicity-stunt/

 

[jchambers]

Bill maher doesn't hate muslims. He hates religion. He thinks the "big 3" religions are bad. Just because he has an opinion on one doing more damage than the others at this point and time... all of a sudden he is dismissed as a biggot. It's surreal. I find it strange that many left leaning people who hate religion become social justice warriors if it involves islam. I don't know when that alliance formed.

They hate religion and advocate rights for gays and women, but they also need to be respective of other cultures on some moral relativism tip. Must walk around with a headache all day.

This is gonna' lead to a major disconnect among the Liberal/Left/Demorat community in this country real soon. It will be akin to what is currently happening amongst the Conservative/Right/Neocon community where younger Libertarians/Constitutionalists are realizing that they have nothing in common with the big government Neocons.

 

[RustyShackleford]

-So since his sister got treated poorly in the pass, so he should have expected the same ****** treatment too

You realize you're not helping your case right?

-I saying if being christian was the cause of discrimination.