Viva La Revolución! Cuba's socialist revolution marks 50 years.

[withapassion]

What happened was amazing and unbelievable but I think whats more amazing was the impact that it had on all nations almost as influential as the AmericanRevolution I could almost say. The American Revolution was much less controversial though but I think just as enlightening.

 

[jmaddness2345129]

Originally Posted by KingLouisXIV

Castro's regime executed tens of thousands of those in the Batista government and those considered counter to the revolution. Thousands left, or were focibly evicted from the island when Castro's forces seized major landholdings (mainly those owned and operated by U.S. citizens and wealthy Cubans). Castro nationalized some ~850 million US $ in capital, striking a major blow to U.S. markets, particularly agriculture. Also, as the supreme chief, Castro orchestrated as the sole patriarch - limiting general involvement in governance and subjecting the nation to his various labor and civic schemes.

Yeah dude, what a hero. He's Jesus embodied.

By all means, switch with one of the millions praying to get out and live there in their place. Report back in on how awesome you find him.

What a tool. Did you type this with your progressive, edgy Che shirt on?

 

[i r andre]

Originally Posted by JMaddness2345129

Originally Posted by KingLouisXIV

Castro's regime executed tens of thousands of those in the Batista government and those considered counter to the revolution. Thousands left, or were focibly evicted from the island when Castro's forces seized major landholdings (mainly those owned and operated by U.S. citizens and wealthy Cubans). Castro nationalized some ~850 million US $ in capital, striking a major blow to U.S. markets, particularly agriculture. Also, as the supreme chief, Castro orchestrated as the sole patriarch - limiting general involvement in governance and subjecting the nation to his various labor and civic schemes.

Yeah dude, what a hero. He's Jesus embodied.

By all means, switch with one of the millions praying to get out and live there in their place. Report back in on how awesome you find him.

What a tool. Did you type this with your progressive, edgy Che shirt on?

Why you hating on Guvera and Castro for? You sound like a player hater fam. Sippin that haterade. Not a good look at all. Mad cuz my %++%%%straight running countries and starting missle crisis' and $%%@. Get ya swag up and then you too can son an entire nation.

 

[ratxaxtat]

I like this one better.

 

[owl troutwig]

[h4]It's nice to celebrate the legacy of an oppressive Communist state from the comfort of one's home and cable modem connection. I betyou were wearing a slanket and sipping on some chai while you typed all that nonsense out.
[/h4]

 

[tbone95860]

Castro needs to go..... now.

 

[kickmatic23]

Originally Posted by CWrite78

checking in

great pic

 

[fede dpt]

The fact that this form of Gov't is being celebrated by a American citizen is scary in this day and age.



Ronald Reagan is looking down at this country in shame.

 

[sharpiepoint]

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

The fact that this form of Gov't is being celebrated by a American citizen is scary in this day and age.



Ronald Reagan is looking down at this country in shame.

It works on paper that's why it is embraced by certain what we call 'radical' individuals or groups. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

 

[GTA 809]

Originally Posted by KingLouisXIV



Aided by a highly organized student and labor movement...

The revolutionary government set up by Castro and his cadre instituted a series of land reforms, nationalizing industry (~99% of Cuban industry was U.S. owned prior to the invasion), and infrastructure construction and modernization (roads, schools, hospitals, universities).

... increasing representation of labor, Afro-Cubans, and women in civic and social life.

... fascinating example of resistence to U.S. imperialism in the 20th century.

These are the only parts that are appreciated.
Communism on paper FTW
Communism in practice FTL

 

[infamousod]

Originally Posted by blackngold1z

KingLouisXIV wrote:

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Aided by a highly organized student and labor movement...

The revolutionary government set up by Castro and his cadre instituted a series of land reforms, nationalizing industry (~99% of Cuban industry was U.S. owned prior to the invasion), and infrastructure construction and modernization (roads, schools, hospitals, universities).

... increasing representation of labor, Afro-Cubans, and women in civic and social life.

... fascinating example of resistence to U.S. imperialism in the 20th century.

These are the only parts that are appreciated.
Communism on paper FTW
Communism in practice FTL


yeah now its 100% owned by Fidel and Raul.


and of course women and blacks are working more, just like in the US white Cubans had more money and left ASAP. it's not a racism thing, it's reality,in the 50's just like in the US slavery had only been abolished about a century before so the blacks were still largely poor and some out of work. OFCOURSE the poor and unemployed are going to want a revolution so they all stayed while those who realized how the revolution took everything from bad to worseleft in a hurry.

 

[fede dpt]

Originally Posted by SharpiePoint

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

The fact that this form of Gov't is being celebrated by a American citizen is scary in this day and age.



Ronald Reagan is looking down at this country in shame.

It works on paper that's why it is embraced by certain what we call 'radical' individuals or groups. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Even on paper Communism isnt that great.

I mean seriously, take a minute and think about it. Everyone is equal, there is no room for improvement. You are controlled by the Gov't and you work forUnions who dictate productivity. Everything is State Sponsored, so anything you say that contrasts that, you go to jail. You have ZERO freedom becauseeverything is State Sponsored


We have a form of Socialism in this country, look at Labor Unions. Labor Unions are only beneficial for bad employees, because no matter what they do they wontbe fired because they are backed by "big bad labor unions" and the Unions dictate productivity of the company of the employees they represent.

 

[prurientsole]

How anyone can celebrate those two men is beyond me.

 

[nycknicks105]

Originally Posted by KingLouisXIV

The Cuban revolution has its merits, as well as criticisms. Castro's regime executed tens of thousands of those in the Batista government and those considered counter to the revolution. Thousands left, or were focibly evicted from the island when Castro's forces seized major landholdings (mainly those owned and operated by U.S. citizens and wealthy Cubans). Castro nationalized some ~850 million US $ in capital, striking a major blow to U.S. markets, particularly agriculture. Also, as the supreme chief, Castro orchestrated as the sole patriarch - limiting general involvement in governance and subjecting the nation to his various labor and civic schemes.

However, given what many consider to be neo-colonial control of Cuba by United States industrial agriculture throughout the 20th century, Castro's revolution can be seen as having upended the dominant power hierarchy. Those formerly impoverished found themselves employed and administered basic health and social sevices by the state. Higher education and life expectancies, large employment campaigns, and self-preserving sovereignty became hallmarks of the Castro regime.

Some of this is actually right.

 

[dirtylicious]

yeah..viva what?

 

[itz rolli]

slightly offtopic but did anyone watch the movie Che?

 

[forgot about jae]

Originally Posted by SharpiePoint

Originally Posted by Fede DPT

The fact that this form of Gov't is being celebrated by a American citizen is scary in this day and age.



Ronald Reagan is looking down at this country in shame.

It works on paper that's why it is embraced by certain what we call 'radical' individuals or groups. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Not in Cuba..

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by KingLouisXIV

The 26th of July Movement, a socialist-nationalist campaign led by a young Fidel Castro in 1953, culimanted in the overthrow of Cuban President General Fulgencio Batista January 1st 1959. Comprised of Cuban political exiles, Castro, among others including Che Guevara, waged a highly publicized armed revolt against Batista's army using guerrilla tactics based out of the heavily forested Sierra Maestra mountains.

Aided by a highly organized student and labor movement, as well as having the support of many subsistence communities in the countryside, a two-part military offensive and general strike prompted Batista to flee the island of Cuba in 1959.

The revolutionary government set up by Castro and his cadre instituted a series of land reforms, nationalizing industry (~99% of Cuban industry was U.S. owned prior to the invasion), and infrastructure construction and modernization (roads, schools, hospitals, universities).

Castro's Cuba became almost entirely dependent on trade with the Soviet Union following the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, Cuban missile crisis, and the ensuing trade embargo. The following Sovietization, or structuring of Cuba's economic and social structures similar to the Soviet Union's model, provided some benefits to Cuban citizens by increasing representation of labor, Afro-Cubans, and women in civic and social life. However, socializing all sectors of Cuban society hampered local commerce, freedom of the press, and mobility of men (but particularly women) in the Cuban political sphere.

While today many Americans remain unaware of the history of the staunch socialist republic 90 miles off our coast, I find Cuba and its revolution to be a fascinating example of resistance to U.S. Imperialism in the 20th century.

I agree. Somewhat

 

[air bonilla 23]

50 years????

Epic fail on USA's part.

 

[josebronx]

Originally Posted by Air Bonilla 23

50 years????

Epic fail on USA's part.

A straight smack to the face. La revolución was something impresive, but not the way those people live

 

[rellnye]

Did you wear your Che shirt while typing this? Go to Cuba and see how my people live and then make a new topic. There's a reason why people defect everysingle day. The living conditions are horrid there. People are buying supplies off of the black market because Cuba's currency is +%%$. I hate people thatidolize Castro and Che. Thinking its cool to look up to these people while not having a clue of what their actions caused.

 

[dirtylicious]

I find Cuba and its revolution to be a fascinating example of resistance to U.S. Imperialism in the 20th century.
do you find the current living conditions there fascinating too?

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

I find Cuba and its revolution to be a fascinating example of resistance to U.S. Imperialism in the 20th century.

do you find the current living conditions there fascinating too?
Nah, not by any means. But their resistance to U.S Imperialism, I think is

 

[fede dpt]

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

I find Cuba and its revolution to be a fascinating example of resistance to U.S. Imperialism in the 20th century.

do you find the current living conditions there fascinating too?

Nah, not by any means. But their resistance to U.S Imperialism, I think is

Do you know what Imperialism is?

 

[hazeleyed honey]

Hmmm...my opinion on this...

For the most part, I wonder if most Cubans love him or hate him. Whenever I ask, I get different responses. I am sure of course there are some who despise himfor his dictatorship and authoratarian rule. Castro is no saint and has just like any dictator has blood on his hands. But then again, he has done some goodfor his people too. For some Cubans that hate him, there are some who love and identify with Castro as everything that is Cuban.

Well, how I see it, the cuban revolutionaries came to be because of Batista's regime. Batista's corrupt, brutal, and repressive regime made Castro andtheir men rise out of their ashes. So the credit can go to the U.S. foreign policy in Cuba for creating Castro. As I mentioned, Batista was an American puppet.He was considered liberal and a good man by the U.S. government. The U.S. only went flip mode squad when Castro overthrew Batista. So my point being, if Castrosucked up to the Americans like Batista and was a puppet, no one in the U.S. govenrment would care if he was a dictator.

Again, I do not agree with Castro as painted as a saint, but then again depending on the way you see it, to some he is a liberator and to some he is adictator.

As how I see it with Cuba's economy, after 1959, their only main trading partner was the USSR. And after the collapse of the Soviet Union they had toendure with the U.S. embargo, privatize some aspects of their economy, and open up to tourism. What if the U.S. embargo was lifted, maybe their economy wouldbe better a bit? I don't know. I believe a bit of their suffrance can be due to the U.S. embargo in some ways.

Hopefully Cuba can be one day finally live in utmost freedom, not only had they had to live under Batista, then they got stuck with Castro.

A bit off topic, but I cannot wait to see that "Che" movie with Benicio Del Toro playing him, it looks good. I am curious to see how they paint himin the movie.