"Drake is a hip hop infiltrator being pushed by powerful Jews"

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Originally Posted by Robby Valentino

That drawing is +@@...why does it look like Jay Electronica:lol:
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not surprising

blake is wack and doesnt have any business being in the industry

i'd love for that W' to get his $@! beat
 
i just don't see how Drake is the infiltrator and not Waka Floka or Gucci.

What's the point of Drake's infiltration? Diabolic plot to get people singing more? Emasculation? Because masculinity is definitely based in violence and crime, right? If you're not a violent criminal, you can't be masculine, right? Insidious plan to hypnotize people into thinking Canada is cool?

Answer me that. Why would Satan/Jews work with Jay-Z, Kanye, and Drake when these guys AREN'T promoting things that are bad for Blacks or people in general? Isn't that the whole point of it?

Is Amare Stoudamire in on it too? Is that why he's been dropping 30+ for 9 games now?

It just disgusts me how feeble minded and easily scared Black people are. Especially in the face of successful Black people.
 
You know this is a new theory that has been poppin up around here and i dont understand the basis of it. Nobody is linking Jay/ Ye because their successful black men
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, Hell i dont care if they took out ad time in the paper to say "im with the illuminati" it doesnt change the fact that they devoted their life to making legendary music. With that said people question them because they often place symbols and TONS of religious undertones in everything they do.

{on a smaller scale}

Me being a black man, if i suddenly started plastering my items with things synonymous with asian culture, my videos, my music, hell even my clothing, people would be inclined to believe that maybe i have a asian background or that im just highly interested in this stuff. Now after all this is clearly highlighted by people i go and say i have no idea why any of this is in my art? its quite strange
 
came back throught his thread the other day to see if any of these points are still valid and if you look at take care and hell even some of the weeknds stuff............
 
Originally Posted by Trent Ferris

i just don't see how Drake is the infiltrator and not Waka Floka or Gucci.

What's the point of Drake's infiltration? Diabolic plot to get people singing more? Emasculation? Because masculinity is definitely based in violence and crime, right? If you're not a violent criminal, you can't be masculine, right? Insidious plan to hypnotize people into thinking Canada is cool?

Answer me that. Why would Satan/Jews work with Jay-Z, Kanye, and Drake when these guys AREN'T promoting things that are bad for Blacks or people in general? Isn't that the whole point of it?

Is Amare Stoudamire in on it too? Is that why he's been dropping 30+ for 9 games now?

It just disgusts me how feeble minded and easily scared Black people are. Especially in the face of successful Black people.
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If anything, that's definitely part of it. Look at MTV brainwashing people with Real World. You got two ghey people, and two dudes who look like they could be ghey. Got the big dude giving himself facials every morning and *$%%. I do believe that the people running TV and music are trying to push the ghey community more and more til it becomes casually acceptable.
I wanna know what the deal is with ASAP Rocky. He came even MORE out of nowhere. Not even people down the street from where the guy lived knew who he was before he put out a couple songs on the internet and blew up to be the next big thing. And Drake of all people seemed to be pushing him.
 
As far as A$ap i just think he was prolly signed by his label before it was announced and they used there influence to get his buzz up real quick
 
Okay? But how did he get a deal like that with only having a couple songs out and not even people in his own neighborhood knew he was making music? He definitely has a relative who's big in the music industry or behind the scenes IMO. Atleast Drake was on a popular television show before he got big. This dude Rocky moved into a town home in New Jersey and became the next big thing out of absolutely nowhere.
 
Asap just benefited because he young and repped harlem so a %+!#* from harlem came and signed him up. His deal aint even that crazy. Dudes worse get signed everyday

Weeknd and dem got investors behind dem

Stop with the conspiracy theories
 
Very interesting and enlightening thread.

Even if i dont totally believe in a lotta viewpoints stated here, I will say that it's not a coincidence that Drake seemingly came outta nowhere. I do believe he was extremely well connected and had a push...his 3 mixtapes were stellar...but the rise didnt seem organic enough for me to think it was just off his sheer talent...even down to things like stage presence which an artist like Wiz learned to develop albeit that he was on the road a lot. If anything, Lyor said he was going to sign to Warner when he did a handshake agreement, but then he went to Sylvia's label. Lyor basically said that younger artists dont understand how to keep a handshake agreement. For someone like Lyor to be upset over missing out on Drake and to say what he said in the Complex intv (http://www.complex.com/music/2010/05/lyor-cohen) something's telling me there was more to it. Label heads are notorious for going out on limbs to get artists to sign. Ya'll heard about Tyler and Steve Rifkind and Lyor going to Long Beach for Warren G and all that.

I'd also heard how Drake's contract was worth like 2 Mil and he kept like 75% of the sales. Especially if they didnt 360 him, it makes it even more interesting.

One thing you all seem to have overlooked about Drake is that, whether or not he's "talented" in your opinions....homie has an unusually good sense of melody. Melody is basically the essence of music and the blueprint of what you listen to. His melodies and songs are constructed in a way so that he appeals to the ear. Think about his songs and how they're so easy to remember...then think about how they sound when you hear them in a club booming. Cats like Drake, Wayne, Ye, and Jay-z have the same thing down pat. It's all how your ear recognizes music and sends it to your brain and Drake has mastered that. 
Then you add all the other stuff...he's mixed, non threatening, has shown great marketing potential and execution....and even the fact that he's extremely calculating in his interviews. I read his interviews and I get the same thing from Jay-z: they're both good at feeding what they want the interviewer to believe, even if you dont get the vibe that they're letting it all out. It's more for intrigue's sake because like Jay said he basically told the same story 10+ albums over.

Regardless, what homie said about the industry being fraternal is all true. All the powers that be are all old rivals and comrades and either started out together then branched off or were competitors who decided to fall in lin e w/ each other. Doug Morris used to be at Universal now he's at Sony. Lyor used to be at Def Jam under Universal, now he's Warner's CEO. They're all in league with each other at the end of the day. What was a shocker to me was that they appointed a black chairman, Gee Roberson at the HNIC at Geffen.

If you dont know...Gee formerly was a head A&R at Rocafella working with Jay-z and was one of the founders of Hip Hop Since 1978, who brought Kanye West to the world.....who partnered up with Cortez Bryant and now co manages Lil Wayne...who formerly had Jeezy under the HH1978 umbrella before he went with Kevin Liles management.....who also manages Just Blaze and Drake under the HHs1978 umbrella....Who formerly was SVP or A7R at Atlantic Records with Hop being a top dog at Columbia Records.

It's all connected. Nothing is coincidence. Even now, you all will begin to see a more concerted push for hip hop in the media. Yo Raps will be coming back briefly. XXL will get chatter going with their 2012 Freshman list pretty soon. Spin did that article on the new jacks in hip hop. Cats like Childish Gambino are getting press in The NY Daily News. VH1 is doing a show for TI and Tiny. It's all a cycle.
 
Originally Posted by blackmagnus514

Very interesting and enlightening thread.


Even if i dont totally believe in a lotta viewpoints stated here, I will say that it's not a coincidence that Drake seemingly came outta nowhere. I do believe he was extremely well connected and had a push...his 3 mixtapes were stellar...but the rise didnt seem organic enough for me to think it was just off his sheer talent...even down to things like stage presence which an artist like Wiz learned to develop albeit that he was on the road a lot. If anything, Lyor said he was going to sign to Warner when he did a handshake agreement, but then he went to Sylvia's label. Lyor basically said that younger artists dont understand how to keep a handshake agreement. For someone like Lyor to be upset over missing out on Drake and to say what he said in the Complex intv (http://www.complex.com/music/2010/05/lyor-cohen) something's telling me there was more to it. Label heads are notorious for going out on limbs to get artists to sign. Ya'll heard about Tyler and Steve Rifkind and Lyor going to Long Beach for Warren G and all that.



I'd also heard how Drake's contract was worth like 2 Mil and he kept like 75% of the sales. Especially if they didnt 360 him, it makes it even more interesting.



One thing you all seem to have overlooked about Drake is that, whether or not he's "talented" in your opinions....homie has an unusually good sense of melody. Melody is basically the essence of music and the blueprint of what you listen to. His melodies and songs are constructed in a way so that he appeals to the ear. Think about his songs and how they're so easy to remember...then think about how they sound when you hear them in a club booming. Cats like Drake, Wayne, Ye, and Jay-z have the same thing down pat. It's all how your ear recognizes music and sends it to your brain and Drake has mastered that. 
Then you add all the other stuff...he's mixed, non threatening, has shown great marketing potential and execution....and even the fact that he's extremely calculating in his interviews. I read his interviews and I get the same thing from Jay-z: they're both good at feeding what they want the interviewer to believe, even if you dont get the vibe that they're letting it all out. It's more for intrigue's sake because like Jay said he basically told the same story 10+ albums over.

Regardless, what homie said about the industry being fraternal is all true. All the powers that be are all old rivals and comrades and either started out together then branched off or were competitors who decided to fall in lin e w/ each other. Doug Morris used to be at Universal now he's at Sony. Lyor used to be at Def Jam under Universal, now he's Warner's CEO. They're all in league with each other at the end of the day. What was a shocker to me was that they appointed a black chairman, Gee Roberson at the HNIC at Geffen.



If you dont know...Gee formerly was a head A&R at Rocafella working with Jay-z and was one of the founders of Hip Hop Since 1978, who brought Kanye West to the world.....who partnered up with Cortez Bryant and now co manages Lil Wayne...who formerly had Jeezy under the HH1978 umbrella before he went with Kevin Liles management.....who also manages Just Blaze and Drake under the HHs1978 umbrella....Who formerly was SVP or A7R at Atlantic Records with Hop being a top dog at Columbia Records.



It's all connected. Nothing is coincidence. Even now, you all will begin to see a more concerted push for hip hop in the media. Yo Raps will be coming back briefly. XXL will get chatter going with their 2012 Freshman list pretty soon. Spin did that article on the new jacks in hip hop. Cats like Childish Gambino are getting press in The NY Daily News. VH1 is doing a show for TI and Tiny. It's all a cycle.
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Its a new day and age. In the 90's label heads would have to leave their office to find new artist to sign but now all the label heads have to do is go to YouTube/Worldstar/blogs etc to find the newest and hottest rap stars. Plus, artist are getting smarter, the internet has name it possible for artist to get their music and videos out there without the help of label.

It's so easy (not really but you get my drift) to get shine these days. If an artist puts out one solid mixtape and or a free album the buzz will come. After the buzz starts to grow the said artist goes on a mini club tour, creates a twitter, vblog, music videos etc. IMO the biggest hurdle artist have to overcome is clearing samples. Everything else can be handled by the artist team, usually his crew or homeboys.

I for one don't think Drake had that many connections to start out with. Two reasons why I think that, when SFG came out Tdot was literally using NT to book shows for Drake and my own personal encounter with the OVO crew.

I also think Drake doesn't have anymore or less connects than Lil Wayne or Baby. The only difference is Drake has the "look" and "personality" that is more mainstream and doesn't "scare" away suits.

I think The Weeknd is the artist everyone should be on everyone radar, not to enjoy his music but how he handles his deal. If you believe the rumors, he turned down a 7 million dollar deal. I believe the only reason why a label would offer any artist that much money is due to the fact that the said artist could potentially mess up the music industry model. The Weeknd has the internet and people (some fans paid 200 plus for one of his shows) going nuts and he has yet to do an interview, music video (until a couple days ago), TV appearance etc.

I think The Weeknd will be more of an international star because of his Ethiopian and Canadian background and for the fact that he is not ashamed of it (see his newest video). Other artist who have worldwide appeal is Rihanna and Drake. Both of those artist embrace their home culture.



I'm sure my post will fall of deaf ears but oh well.
 
Personally, Weeknd is wack to me. He screams "knock off Dream" but he does have a lot of viral buzz. With that said, viral buzz doesnt always translate to sales...and a record company, especially in this day and age, are ruthlessly dedicated to the bottom line.
It's so easy (not really but you get my drift) to get shine these days. If an artist puts out one solid mixtape and or a free album the buzz will come. After the buzz starts to grow the said artist goes on a mini club tour, creates a twitter, vblog, music videos etc. IMO the biggest hurdle artist have to overcome is clearing samples. Everything else can be handled by the artist team, usually his crew or homeboys.
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If it were that easy everyone would be buzzing. Booking artists is harder than most people think...monitoring an artists twitter to make sure they're not gonna give you a PR meltdown is another thing. Music Videos have to be of good quality visually and creatively. Sample clearances are easy to overcome if the artist is messing with producers who give original beats. All the artist really has to do is sign a split with the producer/songwriters that ensures theyll get a piece of royalties/sales so no one gets jerked. There's plenty of producers who make original music...i dont know where artists get this obsession with using industry beats then selling a project and then worrying about lawsuits because they didnt handle the legalities. 

Everything can be handled, true, but it's hard work. Trust me. I know talented artists with original music they should be selling, but for whatever reason they dont. And they dont even get shows in their cities....and their twitters are used to bicker with people about foolishness. 

To me, the role of a manager is wild underrated. They handle ALL the business aspects of the artists career, basically finding the mkting/pr or even doing that if they aint got the budget for it....they gotta do mad stuff. But then again, a lot of managers arent really people with background in the business in my experience. Theyre really like friends who were forced into that position. Then if she's female you gotta worry about her reputation. It's a lotta xs and os. 
 
Niketalk=Nikeflock

Drake is also a male duck
male duck= AFLAC mascot
AFLAC= supplemental insurance
insurance= Noun:

1. A practice by which a company provides a guarantee of compensation for specified loss, damage, illness, or death in return for payment...
2. The business of providing such an arrangement.

Synonyms:
assurance - indemnity

therefore when you "buy" into this you are guaranteeing compensation for specified loss, damage, illness and/or death of good music
the code's been cracked

listen to what you like and support it
don't listen/support it if you don't
 
Niketalk=Nikeflock

Drake is also a male duck
male duck= AFLAC mascot
AFLAC= supplemental insurance
insurance= Noun:

1. A practice by which a company provides a guarantee of compensation for specified loss, damage, illness, or death in return for payment...
2. The business of providing such an arrangement.

Synonyms:
assurance - indemnity

therefore when you "buy" into this you are guaranteeing compensation for specified loss, damage, illness and/or death of good music
the code's been cracked

listen to what you like and support it
don't listen to it if you don't
 
Niketalk=Nikeflock

Drake is also a male duck
male duck= AFLAC mascot
AFLAC= supplemental insurance
insurance= Noun:

1. A practice by which a company provides a guarantee of compensation for specified loss, damage, illness, or death in return for payment...
2. The business of providing such an arrangement.

Synonyms:
assurance - indemnity

therefore when you "buy" into this you are guaranteeing compensation for specified loss, damage, illness and/or death of good music
the code's been cracked

listen to what you like and support it
don't listen/support it if you don't
 
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