***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[dathbgboy]

With the changing demographics in the country,I'm starting to believe that we've seen the last GOP won presidential election in my lifetime unless they have the dramatic change in platform/outreach like they were talking about after 2012 only to end up moving even further to the right not long after

Truth. Most of the younger generation who are eligible to vote or will be eligible will most likely vote Democrat.

Their platform won't change, they have been fighting for the rich for a long time and there are less of them than there are of non-rich people. You have those that believe that they have their best interest at heart but they're just foolish as some who are Democrats.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

I don't consider myself affiliated with any political party, but the stuff that comes out of GOP candidates' mouths is disgusting. How do they expect to get the minority vote when they straight ignore the topics affecting minorities or suggest we "build a wall" too keep more minorities out.

They're incredibly out of touch with how the majority of Americans think. The democratic nominee would have to goof on an epic level for anyone from the GOP to win the presidency.

 

[dathbgboy]

I do believe that there needs to be some overall in our immigration system. People are living longer, working later in life, less jobs being created, jobs leaving the country, but more people immigrating here. If this keeps up, no telling how bad this country will be in 20 years or so. But building a wall is stupid

 

[rico x hood]

It would be very easy for GOP to gain traction among black voters. All they'd have to do is appeal to overwhelming amount of Christian blacks. Blacks like Hispanics are social conservatives. But they choose to put their bank accounts over their morality. J

Contrary to what Rusty said, I am not far right. Im center right like the majority of the country. Young people gave been overwhelmingly democrats for decades. That isn't new at all. Because unfortunately they vote with their hearts and not their minds which is why as people age they begin to become more conservative. They begin to lookout for themselves more.


So what I'm hearing from Essential is that minorities have a herd mentality when it comes to voting, which would explain the ridiculous amount of support the Dems get from them. I agree 100%, I'm glad someone else sees it. Many in the minority community see the GOP as the bad guy and many minority voters are ridiculed or called sell outs if thet believe in anything the GOP stands for. So I can definitely understand why many would be scared or apprehensivr to "come out" as Republican. The cultural backlash may be too much to handle.

And people need to stop equating Illegal Immigrants to your run of the mill minority immigrants. As ridiculous as the wall idea is, Donald Trump as well as many in the GOP want to keep out ILLEGAL immigrants. There's a clear distinction.

 

[RustyShackleford]

As people as the become relatively more conservative because the younger generation coming up is more liberal.

The GOP has to become more liberal just to keep pace with the current generation. They won't age into the GOP's platform. The GOP will have to budge

Maybe their economic policies might be more appealing, but their social policies won't

-You're not center right Rico. Unless you very socially liberal to make up for you economic views

-Christian blacks are not going to go along with the GOP without major concessions. Which would again alienate the GOP's current base

 

[essential1]

Where do you get herd mentality from what I said?

You're mistaken on socially conservative that trend has gone vastly left as well as economic. The fact that you can't see it, is your own fault.

Good lord man the actual world landscape is impenetrable to you.

 

[dathbgboy]

And their economic policies may be appealing but their demeanor and lack of interest in racial and societal problems lead minorities to believe that those policies won't favor them.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

It would be very easy for GOP to gain traction among black voters. All they'd have to do is appeal to overwhelming amount of Christian blacks. Blacks like Hispanics are social conservatives. But they choose to put their bank accounts over their morality. J

Contrary to what Rusty said, I am not far right. Im center right like the majority of the country. Young people gave been overwhelmingly democrats for decades. That isn't new at all. Because unfortunately they vote with their hearts and not their minds which is why as people age they begin to become more conservative.

No.

They've been trying to do that. Christianity has always been a huge talking point for the GOP yet they've gained no traction in the black community. Fair or not, Republican is synonymous with racist for a good number of black Americans. The most determintal thing to the GOP gaining votes in the black community is Fox news. The constant bashing of minorities and general disrespect to black victims of police brutality has set the GOP back in a way they can't recover from anytime soon, especially in the 18-35 demographic. If they REALLY want to win over black people start talking about the prison industrial complex and ending police brutality. Otherwise, ain't nobody listening.

 

[rico x hood]

Well it is disheartening to hear you all talk like this. It is people like you all that are suppressing minorities from flourishing more. Your archaic ways of thinking are a detriment to ALL people of color. You call yourselves progressives but can't even progress pass your own ingrained outlook of the world. So continue on your same path of electing Dems every election cycle and keep wondering out loud why nothing ever changes for our communities. I pray that this newer generation isn't as jaded as you all. Lord knows we need more objective pepole voting if we're ever going to get back even a fraction of the wealth we lost under the Obama administration.

 

[RustyShackleford]

It would be very easy for GOP to gain traction among black voters. All they'd have to do is appeal to overwhelming amount of Christian blacks. Blacks like Hispanics are social conservatives. But they choose to put their bank accounts over their morality. J

Contrary to what Rusty said, I am not far right. Im center right like the majority of the country. Young people gave been overwhelmingly democrats for decades. That isn't new at all. Because unfortunately they vote with their hearts and not their minds which is why as people age they begin to become more conservative.

No.

They've been trying to do that. Christianity has always been a huge talking point for the GOP yet they've gained no traction in the black community. Fair or not, Republican is synonymous with racist for a good number of black Americans. The most determintal thing to the GOP gaining votes in the black community is Fox news. The constant bashing of minorities and general disrespect to black victims of police brutality has set the GOP back in a way they can't recover from anytime soon, especially in the 18-35 demographic. If they REALLY want to win over black people start talking about the prison industrial complex and ending police brutality. Otherwise, ain't nobody listening.

Pretty much

And like I said with Crc post. I said Democrats has diversity in their policies. I was alluding to criminal justice reform, immigration reform, education reform, etc.

Ole boy instantly counter with playing the welfare card.

Sad part I've seen a ton of conservatives do the same thing, and they don't see how insulting it is.

Like pa; poor, rich, progressive, liberal, conservative, educated, uneducated, middle class black folk all vote against your party.

Like you really feel all those folk from all walks of like just want some welfare

 

[RustyShackleford]

Well it is disheartening to hear you all talk like this. It is people like you all that are suppressing minorities from flourishing more. Your archaic ways of thinking are a detriment to ALL people of color. You call yourselves progressives but can't even progress pass your own ingrained outlook of the world. So continue on your same path of electing Dems every election cycle and keep wondering out loud why nothing ever changes for our communities. I pray that this newer generation isn't as jaded as you all. Lord knows we need more objective pepole voting if we're ever gping to get back even a fraction we losses under the Obama administration.

Da hell is this

 

[essential1]

That's all I have for that.

 

[dathbgboy]

Well it is disheartening to hear you all talk like this. It is people like you all that are suppressing minorities from flourishing more. Your archaic ways of thinking are a detriment to ALL people of color. You call yourselves progressives but can't even progress pass your own ingrained outlook of the world. So continue on your same path of electing Dems every election cycle and keep wondering out loud why nothing ever changes for our communities. I pray that this newer generation isn't as jaded as you all. Lord knows we need more objective pepole voting if we're ever gping to get back even a fraction we losses under the Obama administration.

What positive changes have occured for minorities during the Bush Administration? Hell, one of the first things he did in office was give himself a raise. Who got the bailouts, who lost jobs? Dems tend to be the lesser of two evils, that's all.

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Well it is disheartening to hear you all talk like this. It is people like you all that are suppressing minorities from flourishing more. Your archaic ways of thinking are a detriment to ALL people of color. You call yourselves progressives but can't even progress pass your own ingrained outlook of the world. So continue on your same path of electing Dems every election cycle and keep wondering out loud why nothing ever changes for our communities. I pray that this newer generation isn't as jaded as you all. Lord knows we need more objective pepole voting if we're ever going to get back even a fraction of the wealth we lost under the Obama administration.

 

[rico x hood]

Yup typical Rusty. I start making too much sense and he resorts to gifs and emojis.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Yup typical Rusty. I start making too much sense and he resorts to gifs and emojis.

Yes, yes, yes. Typical me

Because I'm the only one mocking your stupid post

 

[rico x hood]

What positive changes have occured for minorities during the Bush Administration? Hell, one of the first things he did in office was give himself a raise. Who got the bailouts, who lost jobs? Dems tend to be the lesser of two evils, that's all.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/armstrong-williams-blacks-lose-progress-under-obam/

That's some change for ya.

 

[rico x hood]

Yes, yes, yes. Typical me

Because I'm the only one mocking your stupid post

Herd mentality. Perfect example of what happens when black people don't subscribe to the typical "black stances"

 

[dathbgboy]

What positive changes have occured for minorities during the Bush Administration? Hell, one of the first things he did in office was give himself a raise. Who got the bailouts, who lost jobs? Dems tend to be the lesser of two evils, that's all.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/armstrong-williams-blacks-lose-progress-under-obam/

That's some change for ya.

You didn't answer any one of my questions. You are dismissed sir

 

[imreallydirknowitzki]

The Horowitz and Hanjal study is meh IMO

They don't take into account the partisan makeup of congress.

They do use a gap/buffer year to attempt to account for changes that could take place because of an administration after it is out of power, but idk how effective their methodology was.

 

[therealrell]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/armstrong-williams-blacks-lose-progress-under-obam/

That's some change for ya.

On top of that, if Obama passes any type of amnesty, African Americans specifically lower skilled with little to no education are most at risk when it comes to employment.

To talk about losing jobs and not talking about NAFTA (Clinton) or the Trans Pacific Partnership (Obama) shows how biased political discussions are on this site to the point where it isn't worth talking about because there is no constructive conversation. While people were bickering over the Confederate flag, Obama signed a deal that's going to cost more Americans jobs and bring on automation.

 

[RustyShackleford]

What positive changes have occured for minorities during the Bush Administration? Hell, one of the first things he did in office was give himself a raise. Who got the bailouts, who lost jobs? Dems tend to be the lesser of two evils, that's all.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/29/armstrong-williams-blacks-lose-progress-under-obam/

That's some change for ya.

-From the conservative journalist. Check ole boys other articles

-From a known biased conservative leaning newspaper

-Doesn't point to any policies Obama pushed to hurt blacks. Blames him for not speaking up for black folk, like the GOP doesn't flip their **** when he does

Yet wants up to accept it as fax.

Ok papi, ok

 

[rico x hood]

You didn't answer any one of my questions. You are dismissed sir

Because the article explains it all. If blacks are faring worse under Obama, then we were doing better under Bush.

 

[rico x hood]

-From the conservative journalist. Check ole boys other articles

-From a known biased conservative leaning newspaper

-Doesn't point to any policies Obama pushed to hurt blacks. Blames him for not speaking up for black folk, like the GOP doesn't flip their **** when he does

Yet wants up to accept it as fax.

Ok papi, ok

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/28/naacp-president-black-people-worse-under-obama/

 

[dathbgboy]

You didn't answer any one of my questions. You are dismissed sir

Because the article explains it all. If blacks are faring worse under Obama, then we were doing better under Bush.

Who shut down the government because they didn't get their way? Who cries when Obama signs an executive order to push something through that will benefit the public? Who publicly criticizes and name calls the Commander-in-Chief and his family?

And no the article didn't explain it all, I searched the page for Bush and it never popped up, which means that it wasn't going to give me the answers that I asked for. Now are you going to answer my question or deflect like the Grand Ole Party does so well?