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I finally got around to stoping by eb games earlier today and picked up one of the new DS4 controllers.  I tried to take the best pictures but these are from my iPhone.
First off when I was using the DS4 with the PS3 it needed to be plugged in, it uses usb micro (used on alot of smartphones these days) versus the usb mini on the DS3 and all the buttons and funtions work other then the touchpad, share button and home button (the options button works as the start button).  Im not sure if it uses the SIXAXIS stuff as it didn't mention it on the box and I dont have any games I could test that use it.
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 The controller as well does not vibrate.

Overall it is a bit bigger then the previous controller but I found it really fit well in my hand and the overall shape and grip felt really nice and much improved from the DS3.  Mind you I liked the DS3, but going back to it after really made me recognize the improvements on the new controller.  

I found the sticks were much more firm but I would say still allow more movement compared to the xbox controllers.  Whatever the material that is used on the sticks is noticeably more grabby, the concave is also a nice addition. The L3 and R3 buttons are still there and I noticed its alot easier to actually click in when you have the stick pulled up or down. (Ex. toe drags if anyone plays nhl)

The triggers are awesome, I don't usually play shooters so I cant judge them in that context but they feel great and its pretty near impossible for your fingers to slip off of them anymore.

People had also complained about light reflecting off of the tv from the controller, I looked from different angles and even tried turning lights on and off but could not notice any reflections.

I'd say its a bit heavier but also feels a lot more sturdy.

I'll do my best to answer questions if anyone else is interested.
 
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PS4 System Software Update 1.50 Details
We wanted to shed some light on system software update version 1.50 for PS4, which will launch simultaneously with the system’s official North American launch on November 15th, 2013. By updating to system software version 1.50, you’ll be able to experience a variety of new features in addition to the basic functions of PS4.

The system software update 1.50 is approximately 300 MB, and will include the following features:

Remote Play
Users will be able to access PS4 titles displayed on their living room TVs and play them on a PS Vita system over Wi-Fi networks by using PS4 Link (Depending on network environment or titles, remote play performance may vary outside of the home). We anticipate that most PS4 titles will be playable on the PS Vita system through Remote Play. The latest PS Vita system software version, to be released soon, will be required to use PS4 Link.


Second Screen
Users can use the PS4 Link application for the PS Vita system, and PlayStation App for iPhone, iPad, and Android-based smartphones and tablets, to use these devices as second screens in supported titles. PlayStation App has the ability to enable users to interact with games with their mobiles devices. For example on The Playroom, a title pre-installed in all PS4 systems that requires PlayStation Camera, users can draw pictures on their mobile device screens and flick them towards the TV. The images then appear as a 3D object within the game.


Record, take screenshots, and upload gameplay effortlessly
The PS4 system provides dedicated, “always on” video encoding systems that enables seamless uploading of gameplay. Users can share their epic triumphs by simply hitting the Share button on DualShock 4, take screenshots or scan through the last 15 minutes of gameplay, tag it and return to the game—the video uploads as the user plays. At the PS4 system’s launch in North America, users will be able to share their images and videos with friends on Facebook and screenshots with followers on Twitter, though users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Facebook and Twitter.


Broadcast and spectate gameplay
The PS4 system also enhances social spectating by enabling users to broadcast their gameplay in real-time to game fans around the globe, using Ustream and Twitch live internet streaming services (users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Ustream and Twitch). There are two ways for users to view live broadcasts. First, the Live from PlayStation application on PS4 aggregates streams from all PlayStation users. Second, users can spectate friends’ PS4 gameplay from PCs, and applications such as Ustream, Twitch, and browsers, which are installed on their mobile devices. These applications can be easily started up via PlayStation App, and users can also use these applications to post comments to gameplay broadcasts. Furthermore, users with PlayStation Camera can stream camera images and microphone sounds along with their live gameplay broadcast.


Play as you download
This feature enables users to play supported digital titles as they are being downloaded. The time it takes to begin playing will vary depending on game data size and network environments, and not all titles will support this feature When a game is purchased, users can start playing after PS4 downloads a portion of the data, while the rest of the game is downloaded in the background during actual gameplay. Games may be downloaded in stand-by mode.


Multi log-in
A maximum of four users can log-in to a single PS4 system simultaneously. These players can use their own save data to play games, and also earn trophies on their own Sony Entertainment Network accounts even when playing a multiplayer game together on a single PS4 system.


Party (Voice chat)
By using the Mono Headset bundled with the PS4 system, users will be able to chat with up to eight friends enjoying different applications or games. Furthermore, users can use Party to chat between PS4 and PS Vita systems.


Face recognition and voice commands
Users with PlayStation Camera will be able to register their facial image onto their PS4 system, and login to their system using facial recognition instead of DualShock 4. Furthermore, users can use either the microphone of the Mono Head set connected to DualShock 4, or PlayStation Camera to navigate through the PS4 home screen (PlayStation Dynamic Menu) with voice commands to start up games and shutdown the system, among other features; please refer to PS4’s online manual for recognizable voice commands.


Background music player
Users can enjoy gameplay while listening to music in the background with Music Unlimited, a cloud-based digital music service. Users can also voice chat with friends while listening to music. Learn more about Music Unlimited here.


Online Multiplayer
PlayStation Plus members will be able to play PS4 titles online with other players via the network. PS Plus makes it easy for members to join available online multiplayer matches in a variety of ways, including the ability to easily join a game from a live stream broadcast or Party voice chats.


Blu-ray Disc and DVD player
Users can enjoy not only gaming on their PS4 system, but also Blu-ray and DVD video contents. When using for the first time, users must connect to the internet to activate this feature.


Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game. We will provide additional information about system software update version 1.50 and features available at the PS4 system’s North America launch, and features that will be available after launch, in the near future.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/

Disappointing that the suspend feature won't be there at launch
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They better make it quick

I didn't know the camera will use facial recognition for logging in. Voice commands works like Kinect too.

Multiple users logging in is great. Especially with the remote play co-op on Vita. Great for the trophy hunters too.

WTF we gotta connect and update to use the bluray/dvd feature
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It's just a one time connect.
its the principality of the whole thing that irks me
What's the issue if you're going to download the update anyway?

Like if that wasn't in the update, you were still gonna download it, correct?
 
If any NT brethren know of any deals on compatible hard drives.
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Just to be sure. The PS4 is still compatible with 9.5mm 2.5" SATA II hard drives right? I read that post on the last page and it said 12.5mm, but I couldn't find any. That's just Sony future proofing for larger capacity drives right? And should I stick with the 5400 RPM ones? If I go with a higher RPM, will that be a bad idea?

I played it safe with the PS3 hard drive. 2.5" 9.5mm SATA II 5400 RPM and everything worked out great. I don't know what the recommended drive specifications are for the PS4 though. I'm not very knowledgeable on this stuff. What's the verdict on SSD's?
In my experience I would't use an SSD.  They're great for speed but because of the way they work, they don'y usually last as long; it has to do with how data is written and read.  Ideally SSD's are used to install programs or OS, something that will be written onto the drive once and not often changed or edited.  The continuos "changing" of information will make the drive die a lot sooner.  Im not sure how the PS3 handles all the data on its hard drive but my guess would be it isn't too much different from a computer.
 
I finally got around to stoping by eb games earlier today and picked up one of the new DS4 controllers.  I tried to take the best pictures but these are from my iPhone.


First off when I was using the DS4 with the PS3 it needed to be plugged in, it uses usb micro (used on alot of smartphones these days) versus the usb mini on the DS3 and all the buttons and funtions work other then the touchpad, share button and home button (the options button works as the start button).  Im not sure if it uses the SIXAXIS stuff as it didn't mention it on the box and I dont have any games I could test that use it.:\ :lol:  The controller as well does not vibrate.

Overall it is a bit bigger then the previous controller but I found it really fit well in my hand and the overall shape and grip felt really nice and much improved from the DS3.  Mind you I liked the DS3, but going back to it after really made me recognize the improvements on the new controller.  

I found the sticks were much more firm but I would say still allow more movement compared to the xbox controllers.  Whatever the material that is used on the sticks is noticeably more grabby, the concave is also a nice addition. The L3 and R3 buttons are still there and I noticed its alot easier to actually click in when you have the stick pulled up or down. (Ex. toe drags if anyone plays nhl)

The triggers are awesome, I don't usually play shooters so I cant judge them in that context but they feel great and its pretty near impossible for your fingers to slip off of them anymore.

People had also complained about light reflecting off of the tv from the controller, I looked from different angles and even tried turning lights on and off but could not notice any reflections.

I'd say its a bit heavier but also feels a lot more sturdy.

I'll do my best to answer questions if anyone else is interested.

Thanks for the impressions.

How's the travel on the triggers?
I know they're great for shooters but I'm interested in driving games which need them.

If you have a Vita, how does the DS4's dpad compare to the DS4.


In my experience I would't use an SSD.  They're great for speed but because of the way they work, they don'y usually last as long; it has to do with how data is written and read.  Ideally SSD's are used to install programs or OS, something that will be written onto the drive once and not often changed or edited.  The continuos "changing" of information will make the drive die a lot sooner.  Im not sure how the PS3 handles all the data on its hard drive but my guess would be it isn't too much different from a computer.


1TB SSD prices :x :x
Amazon product ASIN B00E3W16OU
 
I thought that ssds were supposed to lasl longer than hdd since they don't have any moving parts?
 
 
 
 
PS4 System Software Update 1.50 Details
We wanted to shed some light on system software update version 1.50 for PS4, which will launch simultaneously with the system’s official North American launch on November 15th, 2013. By updating to system software version 1.50, you’ll be able to experience a variety of new features in addition to the basic functions of PS4.


The system software update 1.50 is approximately 300 MB, and will include the following features:

Remote Play

Users will be able to access PS4 titles displayed on their living room TVs and play them on a PS Vita system over Wi-Fi networks by using PS4 Link (Depending on network environment or titles, remote play performance may vary outside of the home). We anticipate that most PS4 titles will be playable on the PS Vita system through Remote Play. The latest PS Vita system software version, to be released soon, will be required to use PS4 Link.


Second Screen

Users can use the PS4 Link application for the PS Vita system, and PlayStation App for iPhone, iPad, and Android-based smartphones and tablets, to use these devices as second screens in supported titles. PlayStation App has the ability to enable users to interact with games with their mobiles devices. For example on The Playroom, a title pre-installed in all PS4 systems that requires PlayStation Camera, users can draw pictures on their mobile device screens and flick them towards the TV. The images then appear as a 3D object within the game.


Record, take screenshots, and upload gameplay effortlessly

The PS4 system provides dedicated, “always on” video encoding systems that enables seamless uploading of gameplay. Users can share their epic triumphs by simply hitting the Share button on DualShock 4, take screenshots or scan through the last 15 minutes of gameplay, tag it and return to the game—the video uploads as the user plays. At the PS4 system’s launch in North America, users will be able to share their images and videos with friends on Facebook and screenshots with followers on Twitter, though users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Facebook and Twitter.


Broadcast and spectate gameplay

The PS4 system also enhances social spectating by enabling users to broadcast their gameplay in real-time to game fans around the globe, using Ustream and Twitch live internet streaming services (users will need to sign up for individual accounts to use Ustream and Twitch). There are two ways for users to view live broadcasts. First, the Live from PlayStation application on PS4 aggregates streams from all PlayStation users. Second, users can spectate friends’ PS4 gameplay from PCs, and applications such as Ustream, Twitch, and browsers, which are installed on their mobile devices. These applications can be easily started up via PlayStation App, and users can also use these applications to post comments to gameplay broadcasts. Furthermore, users with PlayStation Camera can stream camera images and microphone sounds along with their live gameplay broadcast.


Play as you download

This feature enables users to play supported digital titles as they are being downloaded. The time it takes to begin playing will vary depending on game data size and network environments, and not all titles will support this feature When a game is purchased, users can start playing after PS4 downloads a portion of the data, while the rest of the game is downloaded in the background during actual gameplay. Games may be downloaded in stand-by mode.


Multi log-in
A maximum of four users can log-in to a single PS4 system simultaneously. These players can use their own save data to play games, and also earn trophies on their own Sony Entertainment Network accounts even when playing a multiplayer game together on a single PS4 system.


Party (Voice chat)

By using the Mono Headset bundled with the PS4 system, users will be able to chat with up to eight friends enjoying different applications or games. Furthermore, users can use Party to chat between PS4 and PS Vita systems.


Face recognition and voice commands
Users with PlayStation Camera will be able to register their facial image onto their PS4 system, and login to their system using facial recognition instead of DualShock 4. Furthermore, users can use either the microphone of the Mono Head set connected to DualShock 4, or PlayStation Camera to navigate through the PS4 home screen (PlayStation Dynamic Menu) with voice commands to start up games and shutdown the system, among other features; please refer to PS4’s online manual for recognizable voice commands.


Background music player

Users can enjoy gameplay while listening to music in the background with Music Unlimited, a cloud-based digital music service. Users can also voice chat with friends while listening to music. Learn more about Music Unlimited here.


Online Multiplayer

PlayStation Plus members will be able to play PS4 titles online with other players via the network. PS Plus makes it easy for members to join available online multiplayer matches in a variety of ways, including the ability to easily join a game from a live stream broadcast or Party voice chats.


Blu-ray Disc and DVD player
Users can enjoy not only gaming on their PS4 system, but also Blu-ray and DVD video contents. When using for the first time, users must connect to the internet to activate this feature.


Some features will not be available at launch, such as “suspend/resume mode” which is a feature that keeps the PS4 system in a low power state and promptly takes users back to their game. We will provide additional information about system software update version 1.50 and features available at the PS4 system’s North America launch, and features that will be available after launch, in the near future.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/10/25/ps4-system-software-update-1-50-details/


Disappointing that the suspend feature won't be there at launch :smh: They better make it quick


I didn't know the camera will use facial recognition for logging in. Voice commands works like Kinect too.


Multiple users logging in is great. Especially with the remote play co-op on Vita. Great for the trophy hunters too.



WTF we gotta connect and update to use the bluray/dvd feature :smh:


It's just a one time connect.
its the principality of the whole thing that irks me

What's the issue if you're going to download the update anyway?

Like if that wasn't in the update, you were still gonna download it, correct?
like im saying what if i didnt have internet connection i cant even watch a bluray or dvd movie out the box because it needs an update just to play a movie
 
PlayStation App Release Date Announced

Sony Computer Entertainment Announces North American And European Release Of PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App, A New Application That Enhances The PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]4 Experience
PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App enables smartphones and tablets to interact with PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]4 systems and offers smooth and easy access to PSN(SM) features.

TOKYO, Oct. 25, 2013 /PRNewswire/ -- Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCEI) announced that it will release PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App, a new application for mobile devices, on November 13, 2013 in North America, and on November 22, 2013 in Europe. PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App will be available free of charge.


PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App can be downloaded onto various mobile devices, such as iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch and Android[emoji]8482[/emoji] based smartphones and tablets, from the App Store and Google Play*1. Once installed, these devices can be used as second screens in supported PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]4 (PS4[emoji]8482[/emoji]) titles, and users can easily access PSN(SM) features such as Friend Lists and Trophies. Furthermore, users will be able to exchange messages with members of their Friends List, and browse through news and information on the official PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji] website. PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App comes with a variety of features that allow users to seamlessly access and enjoy the world of PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji].

The following features are available on PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App:


  • Directly access various PSN(SM) features and information
  • Users can access their own profile screen.
  • Users can access/compare their own and friends' Trophy accomplishments.
  • Exchange messages between PS4 systems, PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]3 (PS3[emoji]8482[/emoji]) systems,
  • PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]Vita (PS Vita) systems, and mobile devices installed with PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App.
  • Access and filter friend profiles.
  • Notify users about their friends' shared activities on "What's New".
  • Notify PS4 users when they receive any new notifications or game invitations. Users can also display their lists of game items.
  • Browse the official PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji] website and access information
  • Users can access the PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji] official website to browse through news, blogs and game information.
  • The language and content of the website will depend on the country the user's Sony Entertainment Network account is registered.
  • PS4 Second Screen Feature
  • Users can install PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App on to their mobile devices to use as a second screen in supported games. For example on THE PLAYROOM, a title pre-installed in all PS4 systems that requires PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]Camera, users can draw pictures on their mobile device screens and flick them towards the TV. The images then appear as a 3D object within the game.
  • Spectate other PS4 users' gameplay
  • When users' friends upload or begin live streaming their gameplay on PS4 systems, the friends' activities are displayed on "What's New" of the PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App screen. When users tap on this notification, they can boot pre-installed applications, such as browsers, to spectate the uploaded gameplay. Users can also post comments on gameplay screenshots, footage and live streams.
  • Purchase game content on PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]Store
  • Users can purchase game content*2 while away from home and download it directly onto their PS4, PS3, and PS Vita*3 systems.
  • Use a mobile device as a simple remote to control the PS4 system
  • Once installed, users can use their PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App to control their PS4 system as long as both devices have access to the same Wi-Fi access point. For example, users can switch their PS4 system to standby mode, startup their PS4 system from standby mode, and use their mobile phone as a keyboard for their PS4 system.[/SIZE][/B]


SCE will continuously enrich services and features of PS4, while striving to further expand the PlayStation ecosystem.

*1 Depending on the version of OS or device limitation, users may not be able to use the application. PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App will be displayed according to the mobile device's resolution.

*2 Video contents cannot be purchased through PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]App.

*3 A User must be a member of PlayStation[emoji]174[/emoji]Plus to download content directly to a PS Vita system.

Bolded all the good stuff :pimp:
 
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Since both next-gen consoles use BD, does that mean that they could make their console play the opposing console's discs?
 
 
Since both next-gen consoles use BD, does that mean that they could make their console play the opposing console's discs?
did you ask this same question when ps2 and xbox both used DVDs?  Sounded like, "man that ps2 is whack is doesnt even play xbox games."
 
Since both next-gen consoles use BD, does that mean that they could make their console play the opposing console's discs?

I don't think so . There is code put in the disc that is used for the machine to recognize the disc and to start it. Theoretically, if a PS4 game disc is placed in a PS3, the PS3 will not play it because the PS4 is using a different infrastructure due to a different processor being used. Therefore, the PS3 wont be able to read the PS4 game code that is on the disc.
 
Good question iyen but you already know it ain't going to be possible

It's just like when ps2 and xbox used DVD
 
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This is a glimpse of ‪#‎DRIVECLUB‬ in action. The video was captured direct from ‪#‎PS4‬, showing a cool ‪#‎PS4SHARE‬ moment from a race up on a 7,703 ft tall mountain in Norway.

The sun, the clouds and the ambient lighting inside the car will all look better soon, because we're about to upgrade the lighting and atmospheric optics. When we do, we will share a full race with you. You won't have to wait much longer
 
I'm excited about Drive Club. I'm not a fan of Gran Turismo at all anymore. GT just got stale for me; it was basically the same 2-3 races over and over. Forza had variety, and I'm hoping DC is more like that than GT
 
What I'm saying is that since both sony and m$ are using BD. 

They COULD make it so that their consoles read the both xb1/ps4 discs. Assuming that m$ and sony decided to become bffs.

Right?
 
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