Ray Rice Vol. Knocks out fiancée, carries her out of the elevator

I do find it a bit strange that video suddenly changes everything. Everyone saw her slumped out in front of the elevator months ago. Why does seeing the actual punch change things?

DeAndre Liggins...a bum in the NBA...beat his girlfriend up and dropped an Xbox on her head...and still was signed by the Heat last season. If there was a video...would he have been banned?
 
I do find it a bit strange that video suddenly changes everything. Everyone saw her slumped out in front of the elevator months ago. Why does seeing the actual punch change things?

DeAndre Liggins...a bum in the NBA...beat his girlfriend up and dropped an Xbox on her head...and still was signed by the Heat last season. If there was a video...would he have been banned?

yea people are full of ****
 
Damn :smh:

Ray a sucker for letting her tweet that **** about his bm (if the child was born then...no idea of the age) ...mad disrespectful

But


Teyana seem crazy so I know that box probably grade A :smh:
 
I do find it a bit strange that video suddenly changes everything. Everyone saw her slumped out in front of the elevator months ago. Why does seeing the actual punch change things?

DeAndre Liggins...a bum in the NBA...beat his girlfriend up and dropped an Xbox on her head...and still was signed by the Heat last season. If there was a video...would he have been banned?

Have you been in any domestic violence thread on NT? In these cases, women were wilding out, acting up, beating up the man, provoking him, nearly killing him until there's evidence proving otherwise. Now that there's video, those guys have to backpedal a tiny bit.
 
Have you been in any domestic violence thread on NT? In these cases, women were wilding out, acting up, beating up the man, provoking him, nearly killing him until there's evidence proving otherwise. Now that there's video, those guys have to backpedal a tiny bit.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

I'm speaking on the NFL. Why does video of the situation affect the ruling?
 
Hard to grasp domestic violence unless you grew up seeing it or have been a victim of it.

Personally only seen it once from a dude and it was when I was younger. Dude was like the deebo of the city and would smack the fire outta his girlfriends. I was like 'damn'

He ended up pulling a murder/suicide on his bm and it was in front of their kid smh

I've seen plenty of women attacking their bf/**** buddy after the club/bar and usually the dudes just restrain her or push her away
 
I do find it a bit strange that video suddenly changes everything. Everyone saw her slumped out in front of the elevator months ago. Why does seeing the actual punch change things?

DeAndre Liggins...a bum in the NBA...beat his girlfriend up and dropped an Xbox on her head...and still was signed by the Heat last season. If there was a video...would he have been banned?

It's almost like seeing the cow slaughtered before it ends up on your plate. We know it was bad but seeing it go down...
 
It's almost like seeing the cow slaughtered before it ends up on your plate. We know it was bad but seeing it go down...

I get that from an emotional standpoint. But I don't understand that from a legal standpoint as far as the ruling was concerned.

I mean...did anyone think that he had just lightly tapped her for to be laying unconscious?
 
I get that from an emotional standpoint. But I don't understand that from a legal standpoint as far as the ruling was concerned.

I mean...did anyone think that he had just lightly tapped her for to be laying unconscious?

In a legal standpoint it is what you can prove in court. We knew what happened based on what Rice alleged. However now we have damning evidence. That is my guess. Its what you can prove.
 
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I don't know what that has to do with anything.

I'm speaking on the NFL. Why does video of the situation affect the ruling?

Well, the NFL is a different story. They're probably going to say that they never saw the video and that when Rice and his wife explained the situation, it made the wife seem like the aggressor (hence her apologizing). The video paints a different picture.
 
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The latest excuse for Roger Goodell shifts the blame to Janay Rice: http://deadsp.in/wPK033y



In conversations about the Rice case over the summer, the owner said, Goodell privately told other owners that during his investigation, in a meeting with the Rices in June, Janay Rice said she had struck her then-fiancée and that she believed she was partly at fault for the incident. Goodell also said he left the meeting believing that Janay Rice had become unconscious because she had fallen during the scuffle.

After Goodell suspended Rice for two games in July, this person said, Goodell told several NFL owners that he felt it would have been insensitive to question Janay Rice's story because it would have come across as an indictment of her character. Two people familiar with the commissioner's thinking, including the owner, said they believe the thoroughness of the investigation, and Goodell's decision to suspend Rice for two games, both reflected Goodell's discomfort with challenging Janay Rice's story.

This is insane.

It is insane because it blames Janay for "[believing] she was partly at fault," which is at the top of the page on any description of battered woman syndrome.

It is insane because Roger Goodell met with Janay Rice in a crowded conference room. It was Janay and six men, including Goodell, Ravens brass, two NFL executives, and the man who hit her. Any counselor, cop, or attorney experienced in domestic violence issues could have and should have told the NFL that victims will often blame themselves, defend their abusers, and even change their stories, all in the name of protecting the man they love. The NFL's judiciary should have disregarded anything Janay Rice told them, especially anything she said while sitting next to Ray Rice and five other men with vested interests in Ray Rice not getting in trouble.

But it is insane mostly because two people close to the commissioner, including one NFL owner, genuinely believe that absolute ignorance of the universally accepted dynamics of abusive relationships is a valid excuse for Goodell's investigative failures. The Old Boys' Club is quite comfortable falling back on "If anything, he cared too much."
 
No, Its insane for Goodell to have taken a word for word account of what happened when there was a video to coincide. He's lying and just made it worse for himself. He's outta here...
 
The NFL was going to sweep this under the rug, like they have done for decades, TMZ dropped the vid, people freaked out and now the NFL is back peddling in fear of losing sponsors.

No one REALLY cares. Everyone is acting like they care because they think they're supposed to, which is a damn shame.

I wouldn't be surprised if they quietly let Ray back in the league next year.
 
If this whole thing gets Goodell canned...then this is the one time I'm happy a dude knocked a girl out.
 
The NFL was going to sweep this under the rug, like they have done for decades, TMZ dropped the vid, people freaked out and now the NFL is back peddling in fear of losing sponsors.

No one REALLY cares. Everyone is acting like they care because they think they're supposed to, which is a damn shame.

I wouldn't be surprised if they quietly let Ray back in the league next year.

THIS. As sexist as this sounds, this is a man's world. And the women of today making an uproar over this are only adding to this ideology. They stopped being equals and want to be viewed as victims world wide. Have any of these woman groups expressed their desire for Janay Palmer to leave Ray Rice? Or will their be more shock if he strikes her again...
 
The NFL was going to sweep this under the rug, like they have done for decades, TMZ dropped the vid, people freaked out and now the NFL is back peddling in fear of losing sponsors.

No one REALLY cares. Everyone is acting like they care because they think they're supposed to, which is a damn shame.

I wouldn't be surprised if they quietly let Ray back in the league next year.
Jason Kidd approves this post. But seriously, its a problem that Professional sports is dealing with according to the outcry by the public. This has been the highest profile case in a while. Convictions are public record so a lot of players could get hemmed up in the wake if the NFL starts backtracking...
 
Have you been in any domestic violence thread on NT? In these cases, women were wilding out, acting up, beating up the man, provoking him, nearly killing him until there's evidence proving otherwise. Now that there's video, those guys have to backpedal a tiny bit.

I don't know what that has to do with anything.

I'm speaking on the NFL. Why does video of the situation affect the ruling?
Maybe because they ruled based on his wife's statement which was "they" got into a altercation.
 
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