The N Word & Non Black POC (People of color)

HEADdetective said:
The word has BEEN played.

Only clowns use it.

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yea i just try not to use it. especially around non blacks
 
freakydestroyer said:
Wait until the West Coast NTers chime in, they're going to say it has no racial meaning where they're from. It's synonymous with the word "dude".
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I'm from the west and it's terrible how everyone uses it. I cringe when non blacks say it but the more I see it's like it's becoming acceptable for everyone one. I've stopped using it I mean I use to get a pass cause I'm black well in a sense but after getting called er and knocking some teeth in stopped using all together
 
cobra kai cobra kai dam that line about being in k-8 so true. And I'm not even black try being the only dark skinned kid in an all Hispanic and white school. Everytime some ish about slavery came up everyone looked at me smh dam
 
Fresh112 said:
dude i dont know about having a degree that separates you from anyone else, but I have the same feel. I got an AA at a junior college and barber license, so i use to listen to songs in the barber shop and when white dudes, and asians were in the shop I would pray the song was edited. just for comfort of everyone.


but on a side note, i have met wwhite dudes from DC, and Chicago, also Asians that grew up in the southend & i swear they are more black thru and thru than some blacks i know. 

Like these dudes would be offended if a preppy black guy said it around them..smh. 
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^ Sorry bruh, i didn't mean it like that. I meant, having knowledge of different events in our past causes me to react differently than those who don't.

Also, being black doesn't have anything to do with growing up in a metro area. the only people that can be black are those that are born black. it's not a state of mind or a way you're raised.

airedweezy said:
cobra kai cobra kai dam that line about being in k-8 so true. And I'm not even black try being the only dark skinned kid in an all Hispanic and white school. Everytime some ish about slavery came up everyone looked at me smh dam
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Yeah, dudes on the cub scouts i was in used to call me "choco" and say mad racist ****. Last day of class we were cleaning the classroom, kid sprayed 409 in my eye. Teacher brings me outside and says turn the other cheek (catholic school.).

As soon as she let me go, I ran in and kicked dude across the face.
 
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Drones said:
IMO a big issue we have is certain rapper sand entertainers openly encouraging nonblack people to say it. Tyler the Creator and Schoolboy Q do this a lot,there's a HOT97 interview where Tyler says he wants Rosenberg to say it because people who are offended by it keep racism alive...which is patently BS.

I was at a Schoolboy Q concert and there were tons of nonblacks around me saying it in concert with the performance. Then I saw an interview where he says 'its 2014, I don't care if you say it...'

As black people we have to be more open and unafraid about checking people who've been enabled by rappers and Toms to think they can use it freely around us.
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CashBanks said:
if its a friend or someone you know of course you just cut em off

but I'm not getting disrespected out here

say what you want but words can get you punched in the mouth and rightfully so IMO

people shouldn't be allowed to just bump off at the mouth with no consequences

I treat folks with respect everywhere I go expect the same or be ready for things to go left
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understood but you gotta pick your battles.  

if some douchey frat kid or whoever says it knowing he's trying to get a rise out of you and you put the hands on him your going to be the one getting in trouble.      it's not right but not everything works off what's morally right or wrong in this world.    i've seen people try and pull funny stuff, run their mouths but when it's time to do something their the first ones to run to the cops or press charges.   not worth losing what you've worked hard for or going through unnecessary inconviences because of some stupid idiot who got just what he wanted out of you.  it's a bunch of dudes with assault charges on their records or doing time because someone disrespected them.    now if they want to get down and put the hands up, by all means handle that situation the way it needs to be handled.      all i'm saying is, i don't wanna see no one catch a case over a stupid situation where the other party clearly provoked it, but the courts and cops won't see it that way.

i agree, people shouldn't be able to pop off with no consequences but the powers that be don't see it that way.  it's screwed up yes, but i've been in a previous situation where a dude tried to run his mouth, said some overly disrespectful stuff that warranted a beat down.  the second i pressed him, he pulled his phone out and started recording talking about if i lay one hand on him he's going straight to the cops and pressing assault charges.   i  just told him that his dad must be ashamed that he raised a chump for a son and kept it moving.   some may say i handled it like a weenie but it was a no win situation, and not putting hands on him just exposed him for the chump he was in front of everyone who witnessed the altercation.  
 
I Lax Bro said:
So you also allow white people to use it as much as they should too? If you don't, doesn't that qualify as racism? Its a sticky situation haha

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sooperhooper said:
So many black people preach for racial equality and how everyone should be afforded the same justices, yet forbid people from doing something based on their race.
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TreyStylezPopz said:
You do know that the N word is just a utter of sound right? To give it meaning you have to interpret it however YOU choose. For you to ask someone else is pointless. In retrospect the word is only given principle by you. NO ONE ELSE.

Think of your name, let's say its Alex if you were in a room full of people and they all had your same name. Say someone walks in the room and yelled Alex. Everybody would all assume attention to that person. But if that person yelled mike nobody would give a ****. If you were the only Alex in that room you'd be the only one to give attention to that person. Like I said its a utter of sound you choose to give it meaning.

The N word is just a sound that majority of people CHOOSE to give a negative meaning to. Its your choice. Interpret it however you want.
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stayblessed said:
Let your boy cook and stop being so emotional, there are bigger things to worry about.
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Ecook0808 said:
How do people feel about other races using it while singing a song? The song is on and that other race person is just following along with the lyrics...
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I generally avoid saying the word but its does slip out of my mouth from time to time (not often though). i don't want guys misinterpreting my usage of the word and i end up fighting on something petty like that (aint having someone tell me what words i can and cant use, nobody has that authority). in todays culture the use of the word isint derogatory and insulting so it shouldn't be taken that way (yet people still do). now if you use the -er ending version or say it in an insulting way that's a different story.
 
Fresh112 said:
Cobra Kai said:
My Asian roommate used to say it extensively before we became roommates. I know because of his music choices, clothing, culture he emulates, and the discussion we had on the topic.


My other black roommate asked me why I had a problem with my Asian roommate saying the word, if I say it. I wasn't surprised at his statement, but it's funny that me being from the midwest and him being from the south, I've schooled him on a lot of black issues in America. I also have a certificate in African American studies.


My stance was, I say it to and only around black people, and black people I know are comfortable with that word.

When others get into my car, the initial question I ask them is does the n-word offend them in music? I listen to other music, it doesn't have to be rap we ride around to.


I explained, my Asian roommate does not/will not/ and doesn't want to know what it's like to walk outside and be judged and perceived as a "N-R".

You don't know what it's like to be pulled over and with instinct, roll your windows down and stretch your hands out of the car. Or be asked to step out of the car and searched on suspicion. Followed through stores because you may steal, or have purses clutched when you walk by.


Be seen as uneducated, I hold one bachelors in business marketing degree, an african american studies certificate and will receive my masters of fine art in the fall.


You've never been in a private elementary school, k-8 and been the one of three blacks, and dealt with kids saying "N-R" before you even fully understood what the word meant.

Knowing that you can't and never will walk in my shoes makes you unable to use the word around me. I can't control what you do on your own time, but in my presence it ain't flying.


I think too often, other races see the N-word as the coolest portion of our culture, but since schools don't teach enough about black/white relations in America, and when they do, it's sugar coated. Other races don't understand the history that we as blacks get taught in our home. They just see the word "N-A" as something cool to say to friends.


YG "My N, My N" is such a hard thing to swallow, on one hand, i like the song. On the other, I cringe if it's played in mixed company. Now that I've gotten older, I hate hearing the N-word in mixed company. It stands out so much.


This of course, is un-policable at hip hop concerts, that's an L you just gotta take.
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dude i dont know about having a degree that separates you from anyone else, but I have the same feel. I got an AA at a junior college and barber license, so i use to listen to songs in the barber shop and when white dudes, and asians were in the shop I would pray the song was edited. just for comfort of everyone.


but on a side note, i have met wwhite dudes from DC, and Chicago, also Asians that grew up in the southend & i swear they are more black thru and thru than some blacks i know. 

Like these dudes would be offended if a preppy black guy said it around them..smh. 
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How can someone be "more black" than a black person?

Can't nothing make a non black person more black than a black person. The way you act can't make you any darker than my skin.

I don't care how you carry yourself or how you talk. Thats not being black.


It sounds like they just act more ignorant than some other black folk you know.
 
Also, people need to stop slipping the word up.

N_a and n_er are the same ******* word. All urban society is doing is giving a people a pass on using the word because of the way they pronounce it.

Its the same **** man.


If Billy can't say n_er, then Jose can't say n_a just cause he grew up on your block. If one word is offensive, then they both are.

That **** honestly makes me sick to my stomach. Dudes giving people "n***a passes" just cause hey grew up in your neighborhood, but then when someone from the other side uses it, its a problem.

If the word is a problem once, then it should always be a problem

Is a problem when non blacks use it right? Well then stick by your word. Don't only come down on one race for using it.

Matter fact, be an advocate for ALL races to stop using it.
 
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PRIME said:
Also, people need to stop slipping the word up.

N_a and n_er are the same ******* word. All urban society is doing is giving a people a pass on using the word because of the way they pronounce it.

Its the same **** man.


If Billy can't say n_er, then Jose can't say n_a just cause he grew up on your block. If one word is offensive, then they both are.

That **** honestly makes me sick to my stomach. Dudes giving people "n***a passes" just cause hey grew up in your neighborhood, but then when someone from the other side uses it, its a problem.

If the word is a problem once, then it should always be a problem

Is a problem when non blacks use it right? Well then stick by your word. Don't only come down on one race for using it.

Matter fact, be an advocate for ALL races to stop using it.
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I agree with almost everything you said. And this is the new stance I'm taking in regards to ALL Non-Black races. As for myself and other black people. We can communicate amongst ourselves however we see fit. No one gets to tell us what slang, idioms, words, etc are acceptable and not acceptable for us to use.
 
gotJz said:
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I agree with almost everything you said. And this is the new stance I'm taking in regards to ALL Non-Black races. As for myself and other black people. We can communicate amongst ourselves however we see fit. No one gets to tell us what slang, idioms, words, etc are acceptable and not acceptable for us to use.
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Contradiction to the fullest.
 
gotJz said:
Contradiction when it's looked at non-contextually. When you place it into proper context, anyone who believes or thinks that with the history given can go to hell.
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so no one can tell you what slang, idiom, words are acceptable for you to use, yet you want to restrict what slang, idioms, words are acceptable for others to use. yea, i totally took that out of context.
 
sn00pee said:
so no one can tell you what slang, idiom, words are acceptable for you to use, yet you want to restrict what slang, idioms, words are acceptable for others to use. yea, i totally took that out of context.
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In the context of a people who have been subjected forcefully to the desires, expectations, culture, religion, dominion, etc. of another group of people that enslaved them mentally, physically, spiritually, etc...........when reclaiming our self-worth, self-validation, pride, etc it is not only OK, but more than justified on any basis you want to look at it at for blk people to declare that we are going to communicate among ourselves however we so please. And that no other cultures, especially the culprits of what has led us to this current condition is going to have a say in dictating how we relate.

Should white people use it in the privacy of their own homes? No. Do they have the freedom to? Yes.

It's similar to the whole Washington "Diplomats" debate. No other people (ESPECIALLY WHITE PEOPLE) have the right or are in any semblance of a position to tell Native Americans what's offensive and what isn't. If they say a word offends them, who the hell would I think I am to tell them otherwise?

Think deeper. Think better. Think more humanistic.
 
gotJz said:
In the context of a people who have been subjected forcefully to the desires, expectations, culture, religion, dominion, etc. of another group of people that enslaved them mentally, physically, spiritually, etc...........when reclaiming our self-worth, self-validation, pride, etc it is not only OK, but more than justified on any basis you want to look at it at for blk people to declare that we are going to communicate among ourselves however we so please. And that no other cultures, especially the culprits of what has led us to this current condition is going to have a say in dictating how we relate.

Should white people use it in the privacy of their own homes? No. Do they have the freedom to? Yes.

It's similar to the whole Washington "Diplomats" debate. No other people (ESPECIALLY WHITE PEOPLE) have the right or are in any semblance of a position to tell Native Americans what's offensive and what isn't. If they say a word offends them, who the hell would I think I am to tell them otherwise?

Think deeper. Think better. Think more humanistic.
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Think deeper. Think better. Think more humanistic.
you say this, yet think a word used to degrade and dehumanize us, and is STILL used in the same manner, should be given a free pass to be used amongst us.

Think deeper: this word still continues to hold us down, it still reeks of ignorance and foulness, no matter how much you try to spin it.
Think better: There are a million more choices to use as a term of endearment, some that have strived in and out of the black community for years, the N word should never be one of them.
Think more humanistic: Yes i understand that language does change, but now the N word has not changed its meaning and it will take years upon years to lose its original meaning, if that ever happens... but as a human, now, there are far more positive words we could be implanting in the minds of young black men than this word. once that happen, maybe other races too will follow suit and stop using the ugly word also.
 
This thread seems familiar >D

OP I'll just tell you that if he doesn't go out and educate himself on the word then there isn't too much you can do if he's not in your presence. He'll learn sooner than later though
 
I think the n-word is racist no matter who says it.

It's a call back to division. A reference in bad taste. 
 
sn00pee said:
Think deeper. Think better. Think more humanistic.
you say this, yet think a word used to degrade and dehumanize us, and is STILL used in the same manner, should be given a free pass to be used amongst us.

Think deeper: this word still continues to hold us down, it still reeks of ignorance and foulness, no matter how much you try to spin it.
Think better: There are a million more choices to use as a term of endearment, some that have strived in and out of the black community for years, the N word should never be one of them.
Think more humanistic: Yes i understand that language does change, but now the N word has not changed its meaning and it will take years upon years to lose its original meaning, if that ever happens... but as a human, now, there are far more positive words we could be implanting in the minds of young black men than this word. once that happen, maybe other races too will follow suit and stop using the ugly word also.
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1. This word does NOT hold us down. It's merely a word. I can name countless other things (both self-inflicted and inflicted by others) that have a far more detrimental affect in impeding progress/change with regards to the struggle.

2. That is correct. There are a million more choices, but the beauty of it all is that WE will be deciding what we're going to use or not use. Not others outside of the house.

3. The other races that need US to stop using the word amongst ourselves in order to stop using a word that spews such hate, ignorance, malicious intent WHEN used by other races are just bad people.

P.S- It's like telling your mother or father that if their friends are able to call them by their first name, you should be able to too. And if they don't want you calling them by their first name, they need to make sure they don't refer to themselves or let their friends call them by their first name......

Dumb argument.
 
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