Ebola

So it was a V6? After all that arguing that it wasnt.

And it can beat a stock GTR? Oh boy :lol:
An SRT Chally coudnt even sniff a GTR's exhaust fumes in a race. :lol:
 
So if a U.S. citizen goes to Africa for a safari he's allowed to fly back since he's a citizen? But a non naturalized person can't come to the U.S. from Africa?

Chill with the hysteria guys. Turn off the TVs.
 
So if a U.S. citizen goes to Africa for a safari he's allowed to fly back since he's a citizen? But a non naturalized person can't come to the U.S. from Africa?

Chill with the hysteria guys. Turn off the TVs.
a us citizen can't be denied entry to their home country. But, I think temporarily suspending us visas for foreign nationals from the affected countries won't eliminate the threat of the disease coming here, but it would definitely minimize that risk. Like I said before, then thomas duncan wouldn't have been granted entrance to the us and passed the disease to two us health care workers and possibly more. I don't think it's hysteria, some people definitwly, but it's not a bad thing to think of all possible scenarios. There is the potential for this to be even more devastating than its already been. The disease needs to be isolated and brought under control, as thoroughly as possible, in the affected countries in west Africa. And, it's not that no one from africa should be able to travel here, it's that citizens from the highly affected countries are not given us visas, until this outbreak can be controlled.
 
But they're gonna still be able to travel to other countries right? So it's ok if they go to Sweden and get a bunch Swedish people sick? It's a slippery slope that seems unnecessary to me.
 
But they're gonna still be able to travel to other countries right? So it's ok if they go to Sweden and get a bunch Swedish people sick? It's a slippery slope that seems unnecessary to me.
Sweden or whatever country can make their own decisions, and I don't think what I'm talking about would stop the virus from spreading. I just think their needs to be steps taken to minimize the risk of it spreading throughout the world- a twmporary visa ban wont have an adverse effect on the ability to control the virus in my opinion. If the disease isn't isolated and brought under control then it has the potential to spread across the globe. The affected countries need the help from the rest of the world to get this under control. I hope it can be controlled, and the horribly affected countries don't suffer anymore.
 
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Seeing post in this thread makes me understand why slavery was so welcomed. Europeans :lol:
 
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Who is Ron Klain, the newly appointed "Ebola czar"?

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/...ain-a-consummate-washington-insider/?mod=e2tw
 
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Just in case he tries to deny it:View media item 1222741
in his defense, he is an american and many americans regardless of race look at africa like that. on top of that some of what he said isn't necessarily false. many parts are developing and compared to how pampered we are stateside some of those areas are horrible as far as living conditions and there is a lot of squalor.

he could have worded it differently. i dunno, i didn't read his posts like that but his pm isn't screaming racist. it screams american view of africa to me. maybe thats just me tho.
 
Since ebola can survive dried on surfaces for several hours, and the fact that if the virus comes in contact with eyes, mouth, throat, you can catch the disease is what makes me nervous. People with the disease in its early stages can sneeze on a surface, touch something with sweaty hands, etc and then someone could get ebola on their hands by touching one of those surfaces and rub their eyes a couple minutes later and not realize what they are doing. I think that's a reason why this disease is so contagious.
this is all i was trying to say in the beginning of the thread. no kind of alarmist bs here...just more realistic scenarios for us americans than rituals where we touch dead bodies and dinners with plates of bushmeat.
 
I'm currently in pharmacy school and asked one of the professors some questions about meds and vaccines. He told me the realest thing I've heard all year.

"There aren't any vaccines because there's no market for it, if 1 million people get it then these pharmaceutical companies will be lining up to create a vaccine." :smh:
 
I'm currently in pharmacy school and asked one of the professors some questions about meds and vaccines. He told me the realest thing I've heard all year.

"There aren't any vaccines because there's no market for it, if 1 million people get it then these pharmaceutical companies will be lining up to create a vaccine." :smh:


Said this earlier in the thread and dudes were deflecting talking about "they(Pharmaceutical companies/FDA) didn't know about an outbreak so they had no time to prepare and FDA approval takes years" :rolleyes

If there ain't no money to be made then they aren't going to waste their time.
 
Man, im really starting to think that the government should enact a travel ban to/from affected countries, immediately.  And also stop granting Visas to non-US nationals in these countries.  Does anyone have a good reason as to why the government isnt doing this?  I can't seem to find a valid reason anywhere.

Obama doesn't like to hurt feelings unless it's directed at allies for whatever reason. I would be pissed I voted for him except for the fact that Romney scares me more. Everything is PR with this guy. Yes I know there are no direct flights. That isn't the end of the argument by any stretch.
 
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You do a travel ban, people will just go to other countries to come here. Add to the fact that there are TONS of Americans in those countries who want to come home(Oh did you forget ht 3k troops sent to Africa, you want us to ban them too?). You gonna ban them too? Travel ban dont do nothing. Better testing and prevenative measures at the air ports is needed.
 
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You do a travel ban, people will just go to other countries to come here. Add to the fact that there are TONS of Americans in those countries who want to come home(Oh did you forget ht 3k troops sent to Africa, you want us to ban them too?). You gonna ban them too? Travel ban dont do nothing. Better testing and prevenative measures at the air ports is needed.
that's why you temporarily ban nationals from the affected countries, it's very simple to tell where a person is coming from (passport). You don't ban the us aid that us going to Africa. The point i am trying to make is that there needs to be a multi-pronged approach to getting this disease under control. You start by isolating the disease in the most hard hit areas, to try and contain the disease and prevent outbreaks from happening in other parts of the world because if more outbreaks happen it becomes harder and harder to get under control and more and more resources are needed to try and get it under control. Once the disease is isolated in the geographic locations that are hardest hit you can then begin to attempt to get the virus under control in those areas. This is done by sending troops, aid workers, supplies, etc. to the affected areas. The disease spreading does not help the folks in west africa, or anywhere else for that matter. And again, i am not saying that banning nationals from the affected countries will stop it from spreading, but it will no doubt minimize the risk of it spreading.
 
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I'm currently in pharmacy school and asked one of the professors some questions about meds and vaccines. He told me the realest thing I've heard all year.

"There aren't any vaccines because there's no market for it, if 1 million people get it then these pharmaceutical companies will be lining up to create a vaccine."
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Said this earlier in the thread and dudes were deflecting talking about "they(Pharmaceutical companies/FDA) didn't know about an outbreak so they had no time to prepare and FDA approval takes years"
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If there ain't no money to be made then they aren't going to waste their time.
That's not really what you said in your original post. You suggested that the pharmaceutical companies could have prevented the current outbreak. You also demonstrated little understanding of how the FDA works by suggesting that the FDA should automatically approve treatments and vaccines that can potentially  help people. 

Contrary to what you state, it seems there are teams working on a vaccine. 

http://globalnews.ca/news/1620258/e...hed-as-canadian-nurses-push-for-preparedness/

For the record, FDA approval does  take years. 
 
Said this earlier in the thread and dudes were deflecting talking about "they(Pharmaceutical companies/FDA) didn't know about an outbreak so they had no time to prepare and FDA approval takes years" :rolleyes

If there ain't no money to be made then they aren't going to waste their time.

Pharmaceutical companies shouldn't concern themselves with a virus that, before this outbreak, had killed less than 1,500 people in nearly 40 years. They need to focus on things like cancer, influenza, etc. Things that affect millions of people every year, both in the U.S. and around the world.

There are just bigger fish to fry.
 
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