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Poll Results: How Many Regular Season Games Do You Think Kobe Will Play This Year?

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Originally Posted by DarthSka View Post

Agreed, but...

*checks thread*

Am I... in the right place?

Check PM

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Watching today's presser, Brandon Bass' voice does not match him. laugh.gif
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Originally Posted by PMatic View Post



Los Angeles Lakers


Los Angeles Lakers


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roll.gif awkward silence smh
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This is the first time I've heard Bass' voice

Edited by grandtheftbike - 7/22/15 at 6:13pm
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I like Brandon Bass, he sounds like a guy who just goes to work and does his job, very Marshawn Lynch like, obviously not as talented, but I think him and Kobe will hit it off
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Los Angeles Lakers


Los Angeles Lakers


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laugh.gif what and idiot paparazzi. Good god. Kobe ain't even say huge props or none of that. Just said be you and be comfortable being you.
post #10689 of 11836
Poor Rick Fox was killed in a Sharknado.
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Originally Posted by bright nikes View Post

roll.gif awkward silence smh

Dying roll.gif
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That was really weird lol

Nobody said a word

Like couldn't they each say something like "no we haven't talked to him yet but I'm sure we will soon yada yada"?

It was so dam awkward smh
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Lakers Summer League: Robert Upshaw was a mountain in the Lakers' offense, pick-and-roll
By Drew Garrison @DrewGarrisonSBN on Jul 22, 2015, 11:04a

Robert Upshaw did a lot of things right for the Lakers during Summer League, but his ability to work in the pick-and-roll was his best utility.

The Los Angeles Lakers made a low-risk, high-upside move when they locked up a commitment from undrafted big man Robert Upshaw immediately following the NBA Draft. He's said all of the right things since, and finally had an opportunity to show what he can bring on the court at Summer League. Upshaw played in limited minutes, but he didn't fail to show the kind of moldable talent that makes his ceiling seem so high.

There were dazzling moments, like the baseline turnaround and-one he hit over the top of Karl-Anthony Towns in the Lakers' opener. Upshaw came up with his fair share of blocks, bodied up the best young center prospects in Vegas and walked away looking like the kind of first-round talent he's been projected as.

Where he leveraged himself into the Lakers' plans during Summer League the most, though, was how he was the best pick-and-roll partner for D'Angelo Russell. Russell's finest moment of Summer League -- at least as a shooter -- came in a fourth-quarter stretch where he hit four jumpers out of the pick-and-roll against Utah. Upshaw set the first three of those screens.

Here's a closer look at that sequence between Russell and Upshaw, and a stray look at the same pick-and-roll dynamic earlier in the week against the 76ers:

Upshaw sets strong screens and is a huge frame for a defending guard to work around. There was actually a point where Russell used him like a fullback just to probe the defense from the perimeter:


D'Angelo is going to have to continue improving his ability to navigate pick-and-rolls, and finding a rhythm with a big man is going to play a huge role in this development. Right now it's not even clear if the Lakers have finalized their contract with Upshaw, which was reported to be a multi-year deal with only a partial guarantee. His place in the Lakers' rotation and plans is murky at best, but there's definitely a place for a big man with Robert's talent on their roster.

He's a big center who sets massive screens, presenting himself as the kind of pillar a young guard can grow with. Upshaw can create space away from the ball as well, increasing his value with the kind of off-ball execution the Lakers need from their offense:


He's also one of the few young Lakers' bigs that looks capable of rolling to the rim. Upshaw forced defenders to collapse from the perimeter when he dove to the rim. His willingness to be a boulder crashing into the paint is a tool that can open up an offense:


Forget about his potential as a defender and scorer, which are what really separate Upshaw as a top-tier talent. There's a place for a player who can set solid screens and move the way he does, even if that's all he could do well. Yes, the Lakers can use a guy who can do this for their offense:


Whether or not everything works out, Upshaw did proved he's worth a chance as a basketball player. The Lakers haven't had a big man who can physically clear out lanes like Upshaw, he fits well with Russell in the pick-and-roll, and he'll be ticking on the same timetable as the rest of the young core. If everything else checks out, it'd be shocking to see Robert slip out of the Lakers' hands.

He's at the worst a head case, but he can contribute what Sacre does. At best he's a functional starter in the future. He would have been a lottery pick had he not been a screw up. Late 1st if not for the heart scare.

It's drop in the bucket money, not like we committed lottery money to him.

Let him start in the DLeague. Give him a few months, and then make him the 3rd Center when he's ready this year. With hopes of the backup in Year 2.
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We haven't locked him up yet huh? Is it still possible another team gets him?
A T H L E T I C S | U C L A | L A K E R S | R A I D E R S

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Originally Posted by Th3RealF0lkBlu3s View Post

We haven't locked him up yet huh? Is it still possible another team gets him?

Yes. But with the lack of movement on him so far, not sure how many teams are willing to take that shot. I think if we don't move on him, it's in his agent's best interest to just move on to somewhere else.

But it certainly is a real possibility. See Seth Curry and how the Pelicans didn't give him enough guaranteed $ / role. Kings swooped in and took him.
Edited by Essential1 - 7/22/15 at 10:09pm
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2016 free-agent Big Board 1.0: LeBron and Durant lead a top-heavy class

Well, that escalated quickly!

Free agency 2015 went by in the blink of an eye, with most of the non-minimum-salary free agents getting snatched off the board within the first 72 hours. It ran in stark contrast to 2014, when the entire market sat and waited to see what LeBron James did.

The way things are panning out, 2016 might go by even more quickly. No fewer than 15 teams are expected to have at least $20 million in cap space, as the first year of inflated salary caps gassed off the new television deal revenues takes effect. The list of desirable free agents is considerably thinner than years past, and an abundance of cash, combined with a shortage of talent, means free agency is only slated to get crazier.

Here's my first look at the top 10 of my 2016 free agent Big Board, sorted by the average annual value (AAV) of the new contracts I believe each player deserves under the rules of the CBA. The contract valuations for many of these players are almost guaranteed to change, as their 2014-15 performances will affect their worth, but it is important to get a gauge of where the different prospects stand.

To make my contract value estimates, I used many of the same factors I considered as a member of the Phoenix Suns' front office: age, injury history, value of recent comparable player contracts, irreplaceability of skill set, contribution to winning, history of production, fit with style and culture, marketability and current cap situation, among other things.

Remember, this is not a ranking of the best free agents -- it lines them up based on projected AAV; and the AAVs listed below represent my estimation of the approximate value of each player, not a prediction of what the player will receive on the market in 2016. (Values denoted in millions of dollars.)

1. LeBron James | Cleveland Cavaliers | SF

2015-16 salary: $23.0 million
Suggested AAV: $30.7 million/year ($61.4 million over two years, player option)
FA status: Player option

Let's do it again! James has this constant free agency thing down to a science, but this would probably be the last summer it's financially more viable for him to sign a short-term deal. Moving past 2016, he'll have full Bird rights, and the cap explosion should stabilize, but most importantly, both the NBA and the NBPA have the right to opt out of the current CBA in December 2016. This could mean an elimination (or loosening) of max deals in the next CBA, allowing James to make his true market value. Then again, it could also mean more restrictive spending penalties, limiting his earning potential.

2. Dwight Howard | Houston Rockets | C

2015-16 salary: $22.4 million
Suggested AAV: $30.7 million/year ($61.4 million over two years)
FA status: Player option

Howard's a lightning rod for criticism, but he's still one of the premier centers in the game for his ability to impact either end of the floor. He's one of the best defensive deterrents at the rim and efficient offensively on the other end. I'd be hesitant to commit long term without some givebacks on the backend, because Howard does rely heavily on his athleticism to be effective.

3. Kevin Durant | Oklahoma City Thunder | SF

2015-16 salary: $20.2 million
Suggested AAV: $27.3 million/year ($81.8 million over three years, player option)
FA status: Unrestricted free agent

Durant's eligible for five years, $146 million from Oklahoma City. If that number sounds familiar, it's because it's the same deal Anthony Davis signed under the Rose Rule provision. Durant will be one year shy of hitting the 10-year experience mark that bumps him up to the highest max contract bracket (35 percent of the cap), so signing a long-term deal wouldn't be in his best interest. A three year deal with a player option after the second gives him some security (should injury woes continue to bedevil him), while staying flexible enough to re-enter the market under the 35 percent bracket (or if max contracts get eliminated in the next CBA).

4. Mike Conley | Memphis Grizzlies | PG

2015-16 salary: $9.6 million
Suggested AAV: $24.0 million/year ($96.0 million over four years)
FA status: Unrestricted free agent

The drop-off between Conley and the next best point guard available on the market next summer is massive, and his representation will certainly exploit that fact. He's been criminally underrated, perhaps the most of any player in the league, and is a brilliant game manager, playmaker and tenacious defender who's improved his shooting every year in the league and has one of the deadliest in-between games. The closest "new money" comparison would be Damian Lillard's extension, but whatever Conley signs for is going to be the new standard for point guard contracts.

5. Andre Drummond | Detroit Pistons | C

2015-16 salary: $3.3 million
Suggested AAV: $23.5 million/year ($94.1 million over four years, player option)
FA status: Restricted free agent

Drummond will be barely 23 years old next summer, with potential to continue to grow as a dominant center in the league. He's probably a true point guard away from realizing his full potential, but there will be no shortage of suitors for his services. A four-year max deal with an opt out after the third keeps his options open.

6. Bradley Beal | Washington Wizards | SG

2015-16 salary: $5.7 million
Suggested AAV: $23.5 million/year ($94.1 million over four years, player option)
FA status: Restricted free agent

Don't let John Wall see this entry, lest he get even more confused by the concept of a rising cap. Beal has been anointed as the next great shooting guard in the league, and like Conley, he'll benefit from a lack of viable alternatives on the market. Again, a four-year max with an opt out after three makes him the highest paid shooting guard, but gives him an opportunity to re-enter the market.

7. Al Horford | Atlanta Hawks | PF/C

2015-16 salary: $12.0 million
Suggested AAV: $22.0 million/year ($88.0 million over four years, partial guarantee)
FA status: Unestricted free agent

If Conley is the most underrated player in the game, Horford isn't far behind. So much of the Hawks' success this past season was predicated on Horford's ability to remain a mismatch on the offensive end while holding his own defensively. One of the main concerns about Horford is durability, as he's twice suffered torn pectoral muscles (albeit different sides), so a partial guarantee based on minutes played in prior seasons could protect the team should he miss significant time.

8. Hassan Whiteside | Miami Heat | C

2015-16 salary: $981,348
Suggested AAV: $18.8 million/year ($56.4 million over three years, team option on third year)
FA status: Unrestricted free agent

Whiteside burst on the scene last year, but based on his history it was hard for anyone -- even the Miami Heat -- to project he'd be this successful. Had they foreseen Whiteside's rags-to-riches rise, they would have given him a team option on 2015-16 instead of a non-guaranteed year, which would have allowed them to decline that option, turning him into a 2015 restricted free agent. Instead, he'll be an unrestricted free agent with only Early Bird rights, meaning Miami will have to use cap space to pay him market value. Of course, this all depends on Whiteside's ability to stay on his best behavior and continue to produce on a high level on the floor.

9. Chandler Parsons | Dallas Mavericks | SF

2015-16 salary: $15.4 million
Suggested AAV: $18.0 million/year ($54.0 million over three years)
FA status: Unrestricted free agent

Given the tumultuous 2015 free agency of the Mavericks, Parsons is in a unique position few could have foreseen when he signed his deal last summer. Combining the cap rise with the opportunity to take a leading role as a focal point of Dallas' offense this season, Parsons can see his value rise significantly, above the $15.6 million he's due this season. As a 6-10, playmaking forward who is a dependable 3-point shooter, he's already a unique proposition. Now he needs to show the ability to take the next step.

10. Timofey Mozgov | Cleveland Cavaliers | C

2015-16 salary: $5.0 million
Suggested AAV: $16.0 million/year ($48.0 million over three years)
FA status: Unrestricted free agent

Defensive centers are the anchors of almost every elite defense; defensive centers who are not offensive liabilities are even more valuable, as the emphasis on playing two-way players at every role-player position grows. The closest comparison would be Robin Lopez, who signed a four-year, $54 million deal this summer with the Knicks and most resembles Mosgov's defensive acumen and offensive dependability.
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A video of Harrison Barnes working out at Steven Jackson's house last summer. His gym is a replica of the Staples Center. eek.giflaugh.gif

Jerry West cameo midway through. pimp.gif
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I forgot all about Parsons having an opt out.

If we miss on KD, I am perfectly content with Batum and Parsons as fall back options.
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I really think we have a shot at keeping our pick next draft.

Are there three teams we are better than right now?

Orlando, Min, NY are all better right now in my opinion

Philly is worse and maybe Denver, but even they have Faried, Chandler, Mudiay, Gallo, Nurkic, Hickson

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Thread Starter 
My thoughts are the Knicks were the worst team in the league and still only got the 4th pick.

We're going to be horrible, but not Knicks horrible. Unless everyone gets injured it's highly unlikely we sniff bottom 3.its just hard to be THAT bad all the way through. IMHO
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Knicks have Melo, Afflalo, Porzingis, Robin Lopez, Derrick Williams, Calderon, Grant

that might get 30 wins in the east

I'm thinking for us playing better Western teams all season might help us get a bottom 3 record
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Philly, Portland, Brooklyn are all worse than us.

Denver and New York could be close.

In order to keep our pick we need a Cleveland special. Would love for that kind of luck, but can't plan for it.
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Good pt CP

I forgot about Por and BKN, they will be pretty bad, maybe we get a bottom 5 record and move up in the lottery by luck
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I doubt bk will be that bad. A playoff team in the east that lost only deron williams. Also they don't have a draft pick so they don't have any incentive to tank
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Hibbert will win us a handful of games that we would barely lose last season.

And the talent is much better.

30-35 wins is likely.

I think we'll have 5 teams worse than us. Sixers and Blazers are definites. Then probably a handful who have a shot at being worse with a couple or a few who actually are.
Edited by Essential1 - 7/23/15 at 10:10pm
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A lot of players that contributed to us being in close games last year are gone, and if Wacky P gets minutes, that's an extra 10 losses right there
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WOW! season hasn't even started! and everyone already talking about tanking? lol NO FAITH!

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SMH @ 2016 free agent list

9 out of 10 of those players will come back to their teams.
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Originally Posted by okevonz View Post

WOW! season hasn't even started! and everyone already talking about tanking? lol NO FAITH!

Faith is for chumps

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Lakers’ Jordan Clarkson not satisfied with promising rookie season

Lakers guard Jordan Clarkson, who is averaging a team-leading 18 points in the summer league, will look to improve on his rookie season. (John Locher/The Associated Press)

The congratulatory text messages flooded Jordan Clarkson’s phone. The Lakers’ guard just landed on the NBA’s all-rookie first team, a bright spot following a sour Lakers’ season and a fitting end to a journey that started as an unnoticed second-round pick.

Among the well wishes included Clarkson’s personal trainer, Drew Hanlen, who witnessed his client working endlessly to prove his worth in a league that initially doubted him.

But instead of basking in his latest achievement, Clarkson responded with a terse message.

“‘We got to get better this summer,’” Clarkson wrote back to Hanlen. “‘Let’s go.’”

It makes sense why Clarkson felt that way.

The Lakers soon drafted D’Angelo Russell, who will start at point guard and handle most of the ball-handling duties. Kobe Bryant will also return after nursing a right shoulder injury that limited him last season to 35 games.

And Lakers coach Byron Scott and general manager Mitch Kupchak challenged Clarkson to prove he can build on his opening act.

“We like Jordan Clarkson,” Kupchak said. “He was a good player for us this year on a very bad team. So I don’t know how that’s going to play out. But we think he has a future.”

Clarkson made the first step in making Kupchak’s words prophetic, averaging a team-leading 18 points through four summer-league games. Clarkson and those around him also argued his accelerated development and promising potential stem from his work behind closed doors. That also could ensure a lucrative deal once Clarkson’s contract expires after the 2015-16 season, one that will pay him the league minimum $845,059 for a second-year player.

“I’d rather be out here playing than sitting at home on the couch watching these games,” Clarkson said. “I want to build chemistry.”


The conversation seemed pointless.

NBA mock drafts pegged Clarkson as a late first-round pick after averaging 17.5 points, 3.8 rebounds and 3.4 assists per game during his junior season at University of Missouri. The Lakers had the seventh selection of the 2014 NBA Draft and limited assets to secure a pick that could land Clarkson. Yet, Kupchak and Clarkson still met during the pre-draft combine to address an improbable scenario.

“I just remember Mitch saying, ‘You never know what can happen in the draft,’” Clarkson recalled.

Clarkson laughed as he told the story a year later, aware of the irony surrounding Kupchak’s words. Clarkson said he worked out for most NBA teams representing the draft’s top 25 picks, but that did not include the Lakers.

Yet, the Lakers still paid Washington $1.8 million for the 46th pick to secure Clarkson because of what Kupchak described as his “NBA size, NBA speed and athleticism.”

The gamble worked.

After he sat in 23 of the first 43 games, Clarkson started at point guard amid Bryant’s season-ending injury and inconsistency from Jeremy Lin and Ronnie Price. Clarkson averaged 15.8 points on 45.8 percent shooting, five assists and 4.2 rebounds in 32.1 minutes through 38 starts.

But when Clarkson met with Kupchak and Scott in his exit meeting, the conversation steered from praise toward critiquing. The Lakers instructed Clarkson to address nearly everything, ranging from improving his outside shot, ball handling and strength. They advised Clarkson to prepare playing more off-the-ball, defending perimeter players and becoming a vocal leader.

“I don’t want to put limitations on him,” Scott said. “I want him to grow in every area.”


It appears little will inhibit Clarkson from fulfilling those expectations.

When Clarkson hosted camps this summer in China and the Philippines, he flew Hanlen out on one trip (China) and followed detailed instructions for the other (Philippines) so he could continue training.

Clarkson wanted to reunite with the recently retired Steve Nash just before summer league play started. So Clarkson flew to New York to meet with Nash at his summer residency.

Clarkson has wanted to maximize his offseason regiment, so he took only three weeks off before returning to work May 12. Since then, Clarkson has often completed skill workouts with Lakers assistants Mark Madsen and Larry Lewis, weight-training sessions with strength and conditioning coach Tim DiFrancesco and more skill workouts with Hanlen.

“Some players will do the work, but they think it’s a pain,” DiFrancesco said. “But Jordan really enjoys the process of growing, learning and getting better.”

That has played out in numerous ways.

DiFrancesco said Clarkson has added 10 to 15 pounds in muscle, increasing his weight from 180 to between 190-195 pounds. Clarkson has completed various strength exercises two days a week, including chin-ups, bench presses, squats, dead lifts and band resistance drills, and focuses two other days on leg exercises.

The Lakers believe this will make Clarkson more equipped to defend stronger guards, finish with more efficiency and minimize injury to any tendons.

Meanwhile, Clarkson narrowed his focus with Hanlen on three things nearly every day.

To improve his outside shooting, Clarkson altered his balance by jumping straight up and tweaked his release point by raising his right elbow.

To improve his pick-and-roll execution, Clarkson has dropped his hips and relaxed his chest so that he can move at a more methodical and efficient pace.

To improve his finishing at the rim, Clarkson has varied his attempts with both hands.

“He’s going to be a stud next season,” Hanlen said of Clarkson. “People will realize last year wasn’t a fluke and wasn’t a byproduct of an unsuccessful team. They will realize his success is because he’s a good basketball player.”

Clarkson made many realize that already.

After spending last season taking notes from Bryant and Nash, Clarkson has helped Russell and rookie small forward Anthony Brown learn Scott’s Princeton-based offense and temper their pace. Clarkson also deferred to Russell on ball-handling duties, while shifting focus toward scoring and rebounding (3.3 per game).

“He’s growing and getting better every day,” Russell said. “It’s amazing for me to see him and witness it. He’s vocally incredible with it. I ask him a question and he has a perfect answer.”


Clarkson also delivered the perfect answer when DiFrancesco asked for his grades in four areas.

Though he considered his weight training and skill development warranted an “A+,” Clarkson gave himself a “D” in sleep and nutrition.

Despite raving about Clarkson’s tireless work ethic, DiFrancesco has advised him to devote more time to recovery. He also noted that Clarkson struggles with avoiding sugary foods. Yet, Clarkson plans to shop for groceries with DiFrancesco following summer league.

“It wasn’t him blatantly going out of his way not to be good in those areas,” DiFrancesco said. “He just hasn’t developed those habits. But he has recognized that.”

Additional hurdles could loom surrounding Clarkson’s 3-point shooting (26.3 percent), Russell’s development or Bryant’s presence. But Clarkson has vowed to push through, whether it entailed proving the general public wrong about his draft status or refusing to gloat over the first of possibly many NBA accolades.

“My mindset hasn’t changed. I still have the same chip,” Clarkson said. “I’m still a work in progress.”
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That boy Supa Savage.... Work ethic bananas
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