- 26,321
- 29,433
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2011
More lies.
- 37,693
- 51,762
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2014
- 26,321
- 29,433
- Joined
- Nov 3, 2011
Last edited:
- 87,735
- 50,125
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2007
Word. I'm an atheist as mostly everyone else knows and I am in no way in favor of all of this anti-Islam rhetoric that's been sweeping the country.
An atheist may want your religion to have the smallest effect possible on how countries are run and how ppl interact with each other and you can call that the most extreme but taking away your beliefs cuz of a small group? I haven't even heard or seen the atheists trying to capitalize on the current anti-Muslim agenda.
- 87,735
- 50,125
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2007
Kinda reminds me of "The Egg" short story by Andy Weir
You guys should read it with an open mind
Just read this and wow thank you for posting that SRS
You're welcome
It definitely is an interesting theory
The Egg
By: Andy Weir
You were on your way home when you died.
It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.
And that’s when you met me.
“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”
“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.
“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”
“Yup,” I said.
“I… I died?”
“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.
You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”
“More or less,” I said.
“Are you god?” You asked.
“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”
“My kids… my wife,” you said.
“What about them?”
“Will they be all right?”
“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”
You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.
“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”
“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”
“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”
“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”
“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”
You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”
“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”
“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”
“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”
I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.
“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”
“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”
“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”
“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”
“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”
“Where you come from?” You said.
“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”
“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”
“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”
“So what’s the point of it all?”
“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”
“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.
I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”
“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”
“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”
“Just me? What about everyone else?”
“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”
You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”
“All you. Different incarnations of you.”
“Wait. I’m everyone!?”
“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.
“I’m every human being who ever lived?”
“Or who will ever live, yes.”
“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”
“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.
“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.
“And you’re the millions he killed.”
“I’m Jesus?”
“And you’re everyone who followed him.”
You fell silent.
“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”
You thought for a long time.
“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”
“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”
“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”
“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”
“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”
“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”
And I sent you on your way./SPOILER]
I remember reading this years ago, on NT 
Wish I could find the thread on that.
PatRiley
formerly heirjordan15
- 2,432
- 1,893
- Joined
- Dec 26, 2004
Anytime Papi
Belgium
formerly colombia
- 25,973
- 37,266
- Joined
- Jan 12, 2013
You're also making generalizations about atheists here.
I said the world would probably make more progress without organized religion, which is the truth.
If it wasn't for the christian church's condemnation of gay people we could've had equal rights for gays much earlier for example. Being gay probably wouldn't be illegal in 70+ countries either if it wasn't for organized religion.
The problem is more with the interpretations of religion by the people in power than the idea of religion itself.
Muslims are not responsible for terrorism. I personally doubt the highest ranks in those terrorist organizations are even muslims.
Religion, in this case the Islam, is just a powerful tool of indoctrination. Religious extremism isn't exactly something I associate with high intelligence so I doubt the people pulling the strings are really religious nutcases.
Last edited:
- 36,045
- 12,024
- Joined
- Nov 14, 2012
Don't you get it guys?
I broke the dam
I broke the dam
- 12,128
- 33,750
- Joined
- Aug 31, 2012
Not true.
The extremists are clearly a problem, but there are plenty of moderate Muslims and Christians that hold some pretty appalling views regarding women, homosexuals, and human rights that are dictated by their faith. You don't need to be flying planes into towers or bombing Planned Parenthoods to be considered a problem.
Literally every positive thing religion produces or has produced wasn't dependent on the religion. Every positive thing they achieve could be achieved by purely secular means.
You don't want atheists to generalize, but you want to generalize? Got it.
- 1,826
- 220
- Joined
- Mar 16, 2010
I'm not muslim.
/thread.
/thread.
- 37,693
- 51,762
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2014
^ you take nt way too serious miltiant anton
PatRiley
formerly heirjordan15
- 2,432
- 1,893
- Joined
- Dec 26, 2004
Militant Anton lol
Do less
Do less
Last edited:
- 155,736
- 135,092
- Joined
- Oct 13, 2001
Athiests are the ones doing this? If anything Christians (Used loosely) are the ones throwing around the Anti-Islam rhetoric. I don't think anyone with sense is blaming a belief system for what extremists are doing "in the name of Allah"
JPS
formerly instagram
- 30,421
- 35,134
- Joined
- May 4, 2015
Actually All Humans are guilty of this.
- 37,693
- 51,762
- Joined
- Feb 2, 2014
the topic is very serious...but you actually think i hold an e-grudge on you shows that you really take NT serious. lmao
Says the guy who immediately came into a thread begrudgingly
The topic is actually kinda serious, but maybe if I talked about how black people have to suffer I'd have y'all on my side.
"atheist militant"
- 7,134
- 1,150
- Joined
- Aug 23, 2003
Islam vs. Islamism - SJWs and apologists need to discern this important difference
also, the difference between believing and acting on that blind faith. I don't think any rational atheist is against others peacefully practicing their beliefs. Proselytizing and imposing their will and morality on others however, is a different matter that's frankly inexcusable in 2015.
also, the difference between believing and acting on that blind faith. I don't think any rational atheist is against others peacefully practicing their beliefs. Proselytizing and imposing their will and morality on others however, is a different matter that's frankly inexcusable in 2015.
Last edited:
- 87,735
- 50,125
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2007
And to just address that complaint. If Muslims were in this country pushing Islam in to everyday life from ethics to politics I'd have just as much of a problem and you'd see the arguments against it from most atheists on this site.
When other countries are brought up, the treatment of women based off what they believe we're all pretty much openly against that too.
Persecuting Muslims though? Like what's going down now, nah. If that happened against Christians here I'd be against it just as much.
Lets not pretend Christians don't enjoy the privilege as being seen as the main religion of this country.
When other countries are brought up, the treatment of women based off what they believe we're all pretty much openly against that too.
Persecuting Muslims though? Like what's going down now, nah. If that happened against Christians here I'd be against it just as much.
Lets not pretend Christians don't enjoy the privilege as being seen as the main religion of this country.
Last edited:
- 155,736
- 135,092
- Joined
- Oct 13, 2001
Even though you troll most of the time, you make a strong point here.
- 87,735
- 50,125
- Joined
- Nov 20, 2007
That first part is funny coming from you
but perhaps I troll you most of the time.
