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You aren't old. Senior devs are in their 40s and 50s. Takes like 6-8 years to hit Senior. Don't let the fact that a lot of people start young push you away.
San Francisco Niketalkers, is this really how you guys are living?
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You aren't old. Senior devs are in their 40s and 50s. Takes like 6-8 years to hit Senior. Don't let the fact that a lot of people start young push you away.
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San Jose isn't even "cheap" (quotations because EVERYWHERE in the Bay is expensive) unless you live in deep East San Jose. The Saratoga/Campbell bordering areas have always been expensive because of the good schools. The Evergreen area was cheap when there was nothing out there, but with the influx of well off Asian immigrants and new schools, everything out there is expensive as hell. My parents bought a house for $500K in 2000 when the area was nothing but dirt and burnt grass, and now that house is worth $1.5 million. I wonder if we will ever have that type of opportunity in our lifetimes; probably not 
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This is so true. My parents bought their home in sunnyvale in the late 80s for about $200k which I think was built in the 60's. With the Levi's stadium pretty much in their backyard, the home is now worth close to a million. With a simple "remodel", it will push well over a million. SMH.
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San Jose isn't even "cheap" (quotations because EVERYWHERE in the Bay is expensive) unless you live in deep East San Jose. The Saratoga/Campbell bordering areas have always been expensive because of the good schools. The Evergreen area was cheap when there was nothing out there, but with the influx of well off Asian immigrants and new schools, everything out there is expensive as hell. My parents bought a house for $500K in 2000 when the area was nothing but dirt and burnt grass, and now that house is worth $1.5 million. I wonder if we will ever have that type of opportunity in our lifetimes; probably not
Old Economy Steve agrees with you.
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Well, I think it's more that my brain can process coding. I keep thinking if there is another way to get into tech rather than be a coder and the rest seems to do with customer service or marketing and those are both areas that I know will be cut first if there is a decline in the economy. I guess there is no harm in looking into coding and just see what it takes.
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I feel bad for the first wave of newcomers that move to HP
Craigslist is dangerous to use for newcomers too. Relatively "affordable" Listings for "cute renovated studios!" on Larkin, Turk, outer Mission, etc. type of streetsyeah, have fun paying 2k+ to live in neighborhoods full of crackheads and urine smelling streets just to say you live in the city
it's funny seeing ppl jogging thru these areas
they need to be aware that there are still sketchy parts in the city
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Check out lynda.com - they have some solid coding courses on there that can at least give you a taste of what it takes. Pretty sure you can sign up for a free trial.
I spent a while trying to get into coding, then said **** it and got into tech sales
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First one to go is Sales. Last one to go are the Corporate Technical Support/Maintenance.
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it's funny seeing ppl jogging thru these areas
they need to be aware that there are still sketchy parts in the city
Yup. These Craigslist ads with the more affordable looking spots prey on out of towners, saying their apartments are in "Lower Nob Hill" or "Up and Coming part of SOMA" while they're actually deep in the tenderloin or on 6th and Mission
If you see a brand new condo in one of those neighborhoods going for $2100, stay the @#$@ away!
There's too many horror stories of newcomers to the area getting tricked into them and hating their lives for the entirety of their leases.
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Prices make me appreciate Pittsburgh even more and I hate it here for those prices I can get a brand new build w/ 4+br in Pittsburgh.
for those prices I can get a brand new build w/ 4+br in Pittsburgh.
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I'm about to start investing in Pittsburgh .Prices make me appreciate Pittsburgh even more and I hate it herefor those prices I can get a brand new build w/ 4+br in Pittsburgh.
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Prices make me appreciate Pittsburgh even more and I hate it here
I'm about to start investing in Pittsburgh .
Go on
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Investing in real estate. My boy already has 5 units and is cash flowing pretty well something like $400/mo per unit.Go on
He's buying properties cash between 10-15K , putting in about 10-15K of renovations then doing a cash out refi to pull out his money.
I'm funding the renovation for his next deal getting 16.5% return on my investment and will be getting my initial investment back after 6 months.
Looking to get close to 10 units up there over the next 3 years.
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Go on
Investing in real estate. My boy already has 5 units and is cash flowing pretty well something like $400/mo per unit.
He's buying properties cash between 10-15K , putting in about 10-15K of renovations then doing a cash out refi to pull out his money.
I'm funding the renovation for his next deal getting 16.5% return on my investment and will be getting my initial investment back after 6 months.
Looking to get close to 10 units up there over the next 3 years.
Oh ok, got you. If you need info on the areas let me know I'll give what info I have. I thought about getting into the housing market here but no capital. Sucks that all the newer homes are built 20+min outside of the city and there are so many abandoned homes that can be tore down and rebuilt for decent prices but right now everything is luxury this and that when there aint enough luxury salaries here.
Pittsburgh is almost ripe for the taking if you know what you're doing. It's a lot of gentrification going on in cheap neighborhoods and still units to get for cheap. People neglect it over more popular areas like NY, Charlotte, Atlanta, etc.
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Good looks. I found a 6 unit for 40K , my boy is thinking about purchasing it but he said its in a rough area.
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Why is Cost of Living in Pittsburgh so low for a major city?
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I'm about to start investing in Pittsburgh .
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Because they are behind the times here. They are still holding on to the golden age of steel. They're making progress but it's really not enough because there are a lot of lifers w/ clout who like "the way things are" since it benefits them. Jobs are scarce and really aren't being created, pay is relatively low, and despite all the articles, it's still a very prejudice city in a sense that black people really can't prosper here. Since the city wasn't booming prior to 2008, it never really suffered from the housing market crash as far as prices go. The cost of living here is low but high when you factor in salaries.
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What area?
Because they are behind the times here. They are still holding on to the golden age of steel. They're making progress but it's really not enough because there are a lot of lifers w/ clout who like "the way things are" since it benefits them. Jobs are scarce and really aren't being created, pay is relatively low, and despite all the articles, it's still a very prejudice city in a sense that black people really can't prosper here. Since the city wasn't booming prior to 2008, it never really suffered from the housing market crash as far as prices go. The cost of living here is low but high when you factor in salaries.
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Ahead to make sure you weren't talking about Pittsburg, CA lol that's in the Bay
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Cuz it's Pittsburgh
...but naw it's a transitioning rust belt city that's currently getting into the current popular industries (tech/ service/healthcare etc) and a lot of young ppl are starting to move back into the city so prices should rise soon ...it's low for now cuz it still has that old school rep of being a factory town, and it's kinda isolated ...once u leave the city limits it might as well all be west va and those places are stuck in the past
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Isn't Fairfield sort of similar to Pittsburgh in the sense that there is a good part and bad part to that city but back in the days, it didn't used to be that way? I still find it hard to grasp that places like those cities and even Antioch has a bad reputation.
But the Bay Area is odd like that. If you go only like a solid hour in either or direction, housing drops tremendously. But who in their right mind would want to commute for that long if they work in the city or around it. Some people think it is worth it and some don't. That really is what house cost can come down to at times.
But the Bay Area is odd like that. If you go only like a solid hour in either or direction, housing drops tremendously. But who in their right mind would want to commute for that long if they work in the city or around it. Some people think it is worth it and some don't. That really is what house cost can come down to at times.
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Cuz it's Pittsburgh
Truth
They don't build here at all. All new builds are outside the city or luxury condos/apts for $1200+/mo. Every regular house u want to buy is built pre-1950 and that's being generous on the date. Small, no open floor plan, backyard is either small, sloped, or both, and the property taxes for what you get are crazy because they hit u w/ property taxes.And I think for clarification are we all talking about Pittsburgh, PA or Pittsburg, CA
capital sb
? I forgot there's a Pittsburg sans "h" in Cali.
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Pittsburgh, PA
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Pittsburgh is typical of most old blue-collar industrial/manufacturing cities. Think Detroit and Cleveland. Old factories you could get a job at right out of high school were enough for families to get by on. That industry wasn't really competing with anything else so home prices sit at what they could afford. There has been a growing tech presence recently with Google being there and they still have a large talent pool with all the universities and medical facilities.
