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could the 2015 cavs beat the warriors? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

could the 2014 heat beat the spurs? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

if you lose in the finals, it just means you would not have made it to the finals if you played in the other conference 
 
All we know is Lebron loses in the finals . 2-4 Against the west that's all we need to know , to know that he wouldn't be running the west . So we do know Lebron wouldnt be running ish in the west . Those aren't hypotheticals . Tell me all the empty stats you want . They don't matter . The nba equivalent to Peyton manning . That's what Lebron is
 
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could the 2015 cavs beat the warriors? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

could the 2014 heat beat the spurs? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

if you lose in the finals, it just means you would not have made it to the finals if you played in the other conference 

Ohhhh thats what that means?!

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This is legit hilarious man. These presumptions are incredible

"If you lose in the finals it just means you would not have made it to the finals if you played in the other conference"

Because matchups dont matter, injuries dont matter, etc. this is comedy :lol:
 
You lose to an all time great team like the warriors without your two all stars

So naturally that automatically means the cavs wouldnt get through the west.

Get a grip man y'all not making sense.

26 7 & 6 for a team thats 28-11, is empty stats now too?! :rofl:
 
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could the 2015 cavs beat the warriors? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

could the 2014 heat beat the spurs? no? they would not have made the finals in the west

if you lose in the finals, it just means you would not have made it to the finals if you played in the other conference 
Ohhhh thats what that means?!

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This is legit hilarious man. These presumptions are incredible

"If you lose in the finals it just means you would not have made it to the finals if you played in the other conference"

Because matchups dont matter, injuries dont matter, etc. this is comedy
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it's literally the same matchups

what injuries happened that would have helped them beat the warriors or spurs? both teams were head and shoulders better than lebron teams
 
 
it's literally the same matchups

what injuries happened that would have helped them beat the warriors or spurs? both teams were head and shoulders better than lebron teams
Just listen to this 

"If you lose in the finals that just means you wouldn't have been able to make it to the finals if you played in the other conference"

As if matchups don't matter. Injuries don't matter.

Let's throw the Warriors in the east then since we're throwing the Cavs in the west. 

The Cavs swept the Clippers in a season series last year, Split with the Rockets, and beat the Spurs on their own home floor last year. It's no guarantee that the cavs come out of the west, but if you're going to presume that they wouldn't, I'm going to presume that they would. They had great success agains the west last season. 
 
 
 
it's literally the same matchups

what injuries happened that would have helped them beat the warriors or spurs? both teams were head and shoulders better than lebron teams
Just listen to this 

"If you lose in the finals that just means you wouldn't have been able to make it to the finals if you played in the other conference"

As if matchups don't matter. Injuries don't matter.

Let's throw the Warriors in the east then since we're throwing the Cavs in the west. 

The Cavs swept the Clippers in a season series last year, Split with the Rockets, and beat the Spurs on their own home floor last year. It's no guarantee that the cavs come out of the west, but if you're going to presume that they wouldn't, I'm going to presume that they would. They had great success agains the west last season. 
but could they beat the warriors last season? 

even in a hypothetical situation you have to throw the best team in the other conference to make lebron's path easier, even in hypotheticals he needs more help  
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you, as an educated basketball fan dont think that the clippers/rockets/spurs would be more of a challenge than whatever trash teams the cavs played last year? 
 
 
but could they beat the warriors last season? 

even in a hypothetical situation you have to throw the best team in the other conference to make lebron's path easier, even in hypotheticals he needs more help  
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you, as an educated basketball fan dont think that the clippers/rockets/spurs would be more of a challenge than whatever trash teams the cavs played last year? 
They split the season series against the Warriors last season, and blew them out at home in February of last year. So, if we're strictly talking about last season, then it's completely possible to think that they could have beat the Warriors if they were healthy. That's why you can't just say if they were in the west they wouldn't have made it out. They were very good against the west, so you assuming that they wouldn't have gotten out of the west if they were in the west holds just as much validity as me thinking that they would. 

It is what it is. You can throw the Cavs in the west, but I can't throw the Warriors in the east? 
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And I absolutely do think the path to the finals last year would have been much harder for Lebron and the cavs. But that does not mean that they couldn't have made it. They had success against all of the top teams out west last year. Why couldn't they have gotten out of the west? Exactly.
 
And I absolutely do think the path to the finals last year would have been much harder for Lebron and the cavs. But that does not mean that they couldn't have made it. They had success against all of the top teams out west last year. Why couldn't they have gotten out of the west? Exactly.
Yes, that does mean they would not have made it.  Best case scenario, they play the Warriors and lose.  Worst case scenario, they play some other team in the first round and lose.  You can throw out regular season splits, but when it mattered in the playoffs, they lost to the Warriors so therefore, they would not have made it out of the West.  They lost game one with Irving and wouldn't have had Love since he was out in round one.  It is safe to say, the Cavs would not have made the finals last year or the year before that.
 
 
Yes, that does mean they would not have made it.  Best case scenario, they play the Warriors and lose.  Worst case scenario, they play some other team in the first round and lose.  You can throw out regular season splits, but when it mattered in the playoffs, they lost to the Warriors so therefore, they would not have made it out of the West.  They lost game one with Irving and wouldn't have had Love since he was out in round one.  It is safe to say, the Cavs would not have made the finals last year or the year before that.
More hypotheticals, gret 
 
 
....Without two of their best players on the team.

With them, they blew the warriors out.

Mention that too.
They had Kyrie in game one and lost........more hypotheticals smh

Do they blow them out like this:
 
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That is not a hypothetical.  Cavs lost to the Warriors.  Warriors are in the West.  Cavs would have had to play the Warriors to get to the finals.  Cavs were not better than the Warriors in their series.  This is a FACT.
Cavs didn't have Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love when they played them. FACT

They pushed them to six w/o Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love. FACT
 
Right, because naturally a Midseason game in January is a solid indicator of what would happen in a 7 game series. Do you even basketball 
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Because preparing for a team in January is the same as preparing for a team in June.

Look, i'm not saying that the Cavs were better than the warriors last year. But if you're going to place the Cavs in the west and say that they wouldn't be able to get out, then that just opens up a whole load of possibilities that just aren't worth mentioning. The Cavs were very good against the west last year and played the Warriors very well when healthy. It's completely possible that they could have beaten the Warriors/Rockets/Clippers/Memphis in a 7 game series if healthy. If it's logical that they wouldn't, then it's surely logical that they would.
 
 
Look, i'm not saying that the Cavs were better than the warriors last year. But if you're going to place the Cavs in the west and say that they wouldn't be able to get out, then that just opens up a whole load of possibilities that just aren't worth mentioning. The Cavs were very good against the west last year and played the Warriors very well when healthy. It's completely possible that they could have beaten the Warriors/Rockets/Clippers/Memphis in a 7 game series if healthy. If it's logical that they wouldn't, then it's surely logical that they would.
So if you are unable to say the Cavs were better than the Warriors last year, then how would they get out of the West?
 
 
So if you are unable to say the Cavs were better than the Warriors last year, then how would they get out of the West?
Because y'all are throwing them in the west and automatically saying that they wouldn't be able to get out. That's a hypothetical.

The reality is that last year the cavs were very good against the west, including the Warriors. So, if we're going by hypotheticals, then a healthy cavs team could have absolutely defeated the warriors in a 7 game series. Hell, they pushed them to 6 without two all stars.
 
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