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This.Originally Posted by bittersweet
I don't like the way he has been playing for the past couple of years.
It's like he doesn't even try to play anymore ... he tries to get fouls.
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This.Originally Posted by bittersweet
I don't like the way he has been playing for the past couple of years.
It's like he doesn't even try to play anymore ... he tries to get fouls.
Originally Posted by green rhino123
I figured since he survived an attempted murder
and then didn't snitch...
more of you ghetto cats would be on his side
yall like pac don't you?
I'm not trying to say eat a %%$# and die. But it wouldn't be the worst idea.Originally Posted by green rhino123
I figured since he survived an attempted murder
and then didn't snitch...
more of you ghetto cats would be on his side
yall like pac don't you?
He has never been on the NBA All-First Team. Period. That says enough.Originally Posted by bittersweet
Remember the greatest comeback in NBA playoff history? C'mon with that foolishness.Originally Posted by finnns2003
thats what i said in the thread Shugs bring up and it still holdsOriginally Posted by Bigmike23
what HOF is Pierce a lock for?
players that put up numbers for horrible teams dont and never will get respect which they never should. and from his years maken the playoffs everyone just remembers him and walker chucking all game.
Good player?? yes, a superstar?? HELL NO
but he should get respect for what he is doing this year
he was on avg boston team with only him and walker and he was able to chuck up shots and get points and lead boston to NOTHING other then one trip to the ECF. when the going got tough in boston him and walker would go MIA. he had the same rap on him like KG and Ray allen had, would never be able to lead his team with HIM been the man and would do little to nothing in big games
do i give him credit for win the boston 3 got togther he grew some balls and put that team on his back at key times? hell yeah but lets not act like he has been a superstar his whole career and nobody has given him credit
I guess 'anyone' can average 26 a night in multiple seasons, or score 20k points, or win a Finals MVP. A lock for sure.
Originally Posted by DubA169
real fans respect his game. It's his fake injuries and personality that people hate.
Originally Posted by EB4President
doublejs- i agree with you, his first step and footwork is insane, but when people say HOF Lock, I think first ballot no question. No matter who is eligible that year along side him he will make it. IMO PP is not a hall of fame LOCK
He really hasnt accomplished much ( im not just talking about playoffs and championship, but even individual accolades)
To the other guy who says he has no weakness in his game,,,SHUT up, there are things every player can work on, Paul ballhandling skills are not the best ( have you seen him crossover?)
And whoever said PP is top 50 of all time? you have to be kidding yourself right? of ALL time? do people seriouly think like that?
PP got game but I just dont see him as HOF LOCK, I dont see him as TOP 50, and honestly in the 00s PP was never top 5 player in the league, not 1 year. No team ever feared PP until KG and Ray came along and that had to do with KG and Ray coming along
I dont know the future or past, but I think if VC or TMAC for Ray and KG both of them might have a ring, are they HOF locks as well?
DoubleJs07 wrote:
When I think of someone being a "lock" for the HOF, I'm thinking they'll be inducted one way or another....whether it's in his first year of elgibility or third, Pierce will be enshrined in Springfield. How many times when the C's are on a nat'l TV broadcast do you hear..."The Celtics have 3-HOF'ers on their roster...) not verbatim, but something along those lines? It happens EVERY time. These are the people who have votes....the media. Pierce has a lot going for him, but most importantly he won a championship/Finals MVP while with the Celtics of all teams. He's a lock.
Just different opinions on lock....but i see what your saying. IMO hes a very good player, but not a great player...and i dont the media votes for hall of fame, but i could be wrong
and if thats case.."gets no resspect" shouldnt even be in the question right?
Originally Posted by EB4President
PP got game but I just dont see him as HOF LOCK, I dont see him as TOP 50, and honestly in the 00s PP was never top 5 player in the league, not 1 year. No team ever feared PP until KG and Ray came along and that had to do with KG and Ray coming along
Originally Posted by Proshares
Originally Posted by bittersweet
He has never been on the NBA All-First Team. Period. That says enough.Originally Posted by finnns2003
Remember the greatest comeback in NBA playoff history? C'mon with that foolishness.
I guess 'anyone' can average 26 a night in multiple seasons, or score 20k points, or win a Finals MVP. A lock for sure.
The NBA All-First Team?
Says enough about what? This past decade has been forward deep. With Webber, Duncan, Dirk, LeBron, Amare, KG and others and you're going to hold that against him? That's some really flawed logic. Carmelo has never made the All NBA First Team and didn't make the 2nd team until this season, so I guess that says enough about him too.
bittersweet wrote:
1. Kobe
2. Melo
End it.
Originally Posted by EB4President
DoubleJs07 wrote:
When I think of someone being a "lock" for the HOF, I'm thinking they'll be inducted one way or another....whether it's in his first year of elgibility or third, Pierce will be enshrined in Springfield. How many times when the C's are on a nat'l TV broadcast do you hear..."The Celtics have 3-HOF'ers on their roster...) not verbatim, but something along those lines? It happens EVERY time. These are the people who have votes....the media. Pierce has a lot going for him, but most importantly he won a championship/Finals MVP while with the Celtics of all teams. He's a lock.
And just like George Costanza couldn't not think about the nose, I can't not think about who gets to make the selections here. We're told by the Hall of Fame's website that the Honors Committee is made up of Hall of Famers, basketball executives, media members and other contributors to the game.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/04/06/who-is-doing-hall-of-fame-voting/
Originally Posted by Proshares
He has never been on the NBA All-First Team. Period. That says enough.Originally Posted by bittersweet
Remember the greatest comeback in NBA playoff history? C'mon with that foolishness.Originally Posted by finnns2003
thats what i said in the thread Shugs bring up and it still holdsOriginally Posted by Bigmike23
what HOF is Pierce a lock for?
players that put up numbers for horrible teams dont and never will get respect which they never should. and from his years maken the playoffs everyone just remembers him and walker chucking all game.
Good player?? yes, a superstar?? HELL NO
but he should get respect for what he is doing this year
he was on avg boston team with only him and walker and he was able to chuck up shots and get points and lead boston to NOTHING other then one trip to the ECF. when the going got tough in boston him and walker would go MIA. he had the same rap on him like KG and Ray allen had, would never be able to lead his team with HIM been the man and would do little to nothing in big games
do i give him credit for win the boston 3 got togther he grew some balls and put that team on his back at key times? hell yeah but lets not act like he has been a superstar his whole career and nobody has given him credit
I guess 'anyone' can average 26 a night in multiple seasons, or score 20k points, or win a Finals MVP. A lock for sure.
Do you think anyone really takes you seriously around here?Originally Posted by bittersweet
My dude, how is Paul Pierce a lock for the HOF?! His jersey is going to be retired in BOS, and he's going to be in the Celtic HOF, but damn.
He has never made the NBA All-First Team, he JUST made the 2nd team in 2009.
WHERE in that is a "LOCK" for the HOF? His achievements are "meh" for a guy that you people are saying is a lock for the HOF and a great.
If the dude has been in the league for 12 years, you have to come with a better argument about Melo who has been in for like 7.