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Agree. Plus trying to bridge generation gaps is way too hard. Compare players to what they played against, it's the only fair way
How good would Larry Bird be in today's game?
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Ya'll act like Bird would be some scrub. First, you have to factor in Larry preparing in today's context (training, diet, film, etc.), some of you are forgetting that is the first most important part of this. Then factor in his skill set which is incredibly high. Then his IQ which is incredibly high. Once ya'll do that how hard is it to conceive he'd be a top 3 player. Ya'll sound ignorant.
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I just want to know, who in this thread has watched Bird play live in his prime? I'm talking about the 80's??
I can bet everything I got 90% of you haven't.
I can bet everything I got 90% of you haven't.
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why does it matter? i agree most haven't. but some basketball junkies like myself have watched whole games on nba tv, dvds, youtube, and other sources. Thats more than alot of people who only seen the same 30 clips of a past player.
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I watched Bird in the late 80's.
But you all watched a 40-year old Reggie Miller, in his final season, average 15 PPG on 44% shooting. Similar to Bird, Reggie found ways to get open and let his stroke do the rest. He also was not the best defender. He was worse than Bird actually. Bird made All-NBA Defensive Team three times in his career and is 28th all-time in steals.
But you all watched a 40-year old Reggie Miller, in his final season, average 15 PPG on 44% shooting. Similar to Bird, Reggie found ways to get open and let his stroke do the rest. He also was not the best defender. He was worse than Bird actually. Bird made All-NBA Defensive Team three times in his career and is 28th all-time in steals.
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Not one soul here has said he would be a scrub.
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So how you gonna attack me for making my comment based on my take on Bird, when you practically did the same thing?!!
I'm done with this thread. And I'm avoiding any sports thread with MonStar debating in it..
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Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539
So how you gonna attack me for making my comment based on my take on Bird, when you practically did the same thing?!!
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I'm done with this thread. And I'm avoiding any sports thread with MonStar debating in it..
We must've got our wires crossed. I thought you meant you only seen brief highlights and videos at first. I didn't think you meant "i didn't see him live". I wouldn't knock you for being born late.
We cool
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...*Daps*..
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Unstoppable. That's all there is to it.
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I'll leave this here:
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Come on man, a hundred shots and not a miss. Come on man. Get real.
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LeBron would be the only SF better than him. Very versatile offensive game and he was a true PLAYMAKER. Durant is not that. Pierce is not that. I feel the second point often gets overlooked because of LeBron's greatness. SF is usually not a PLAYMAKER position. It's very rare. Look at the history of the league.
From the plethora of videos I've seen of Larry Bird, he was a better athlete than someone like Dirk, who I only bring up because he was mentioned.
From the plethora of videos I've seen of Larry Bird, he was a better athlete than someone like Dirk, who I only bring up because he was mentioned.
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I can't believe this argument is still going. Being the Geezer on this thread, I can tell you I've seen tons of games Bird played (live too) & I've hated him in everyone. The Celts always played the teams I was rootng for. He would kill in the NBA today.
Although the NBA doesn't allow true zone defenses, hybrids of zones are used by just about every team. A player like Bird would kill teams with his jumpers. Kill. The fact that zone like defenses are still being used tells me that players nowadays can't shoot jumpers with any type of consistency because if more players could shoot, you'd see the zone like Ds getting dropped like crazy.
Bird would be the best SF playing today hands down. He'd put these young bucks to shame & tell them he was doing it too. Folks this is someone that took players like Dr. J & James Worthy to school. He of course lost to them too...
I'd take Bird in his prime over any of the SFs in the game today. None of them hold a candle of Bird.
Although the NBA doesn't allow true zone defenses, hybrids of zones are used by just about every team. A player like Bird would kill teams with his jumpers. Kill. The fact that zone like defenses are still being used tells me that players nowadays can't shoot jumpers with any type of consistency because if more players could shoot, you'd see the zone like Ds getting dropped like crazy.
Bird would be the best SF playing today hands down. He'd put these young bucks to shame & tell them he was doing it too. Folks this is someone that took players like Dr. J & James Worthy to school. He of course lost to them too...
I'd take Bird in his prime over any of the SFs in the game today. None of them hold a candle of Bird.
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I'd take LeBron over Bird, no question.
LeBron shrinks in the playoffs? Check his stats. One series (in which he still led his team in scoring) and everyone forgets.
LeBron shrinks in the playoffs? Check his stats. One series (in which he still led his team in scoring) and everyone forgets.
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I love guys that bring up stats. Bron's disappearence cost the Heat the championship last year. Anyone that can't see that is, is...Well there's nothing I can do or explain for you to understand...He's a paper lion. I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
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Did I not say one series? What series did you think I was talking about?
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Umm what about the year before, his last with the Cavs? Homey was ghost too.
Edit: Here's a link to an AOL article about a game in that series. Sound eerily like last year. Two years in a row going into what's supposed to be the prime of your career is indeed a pattern my NT friend...
Edit: Here's a link to an AOL article about a game in that series. Sound eerily like last year. Two years in a row going into what's supposed to be the prime of your career is indeed a pattern my NT friend...
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Lets stay on topic. because when it comes to clutch performance Bird > LeBron and its not even close
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Also was that the same year they had a blowout loss to the wizards? It was liek a 35-40 point loss....Didn't Caron Butler & Stevenson go ham on paper lion? No question he's "talented" but homey needs to worry less about where he's going to VIP after the game & work on his game. Like I said, homey doesn't have a consistent midrange J or post game. Less VIP, more work.
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What? LeBron had a triple double in Game 6. He was the ONLY reason that series even went 6 games. Look up how the other CLE players played that series. Mo Williams went ghost just like 2009, another playoffs in which LeBron carried his team, averaging 35, 9 and 7.
He didn't play with 3 other HOFers, you know. He didn't have that luxury. I know someone that did. But I digress.Back to Bird, no question he would be an all-star.
He didn't play with 3 other HOFers, you know. He didn't have that luxury. I know someone that did. But I digress.Back to Bird, no question he would be an all-star.
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