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I love how people try to discredit a player but posting box score stats as if that tells the whole story, no sense.
Magic, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron Vol. First RING numbers.
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But Lebron or Birds doesnt match Kobes.... so why are you propeling them over Kobe?
Where did I say LeBron's/Bird's body of work is better than Kobe's?
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So according to this thred lay ups and assists don't count...
Then what the **+! does lebron do? Haha
So stupid
Then what the **+! does lebron do? Haha
So stupid
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I just said he was second best player of one of the most storied franchisesin the history of the NBA...what did Kobe "smag" you?
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What a great playoff run by the ThunderOriginally Posted by kicks4days
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KOBE ISN'T TOP 5 PLAYERS OF ALL TIME HE IS THE NUMBER 1 PLAYER OF ALL TIME!!
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A lot of wannabe Skip Bayless' up in here...
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"this is the first time in 13 1/2 years that 2 left handed players both played a game while scoring more than 10 points and each having a shoe lace untied with having 3 different baby mothers"
Yea you THINK that ESPN "messed up", they did that so Kobe wouldnt look bad infront of the other players
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Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
If they never had their fallout Kobe and Shaq probably could have won 5-6 rings together also though. And that's assuming Kobe wouldn't take over and carry them to another 2+ after that...
I'm not saying Scottie and Michael aren't the most dominant, so I guess my point is moot. I'm just saying in that 3 year run like it looked Kobe and Shaq were and would be, and it just got derailed prematurely.
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true story...
i had this argument over in general...
back then, shaq was ridiculous... put early 2000s Tmac, VC, or Paul Pierce in Kobe's spot and you get 3 chips... maybe more cuz those guys arent the personalities of Kobe...
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Bottom line: Shaq GAVE Kobe his first ring.
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As the #2 on the Lakers:
Kobe Bryant 2002 NBA Finals averages (four games):
26.75 points per game
5.75 rebounds per game
5.25 assists per game
51.43 field goal percentage
43.75 minutes per game
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And the Lakers wouldn't have got to the Finals for 2 and 3 if not for Kobes play?
Foolish argument because then Shaq should only get credit for 3 since Wade in '06 couldn't be breathed on without getting to the foul line.
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Some of you guys really believe this
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thank you famb...
kobe fans go to FAR..
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when the Logo him self has said the Kobe is the greatest Laker he's ever seen, i'ma take his word for it.
Kareem is still better than him by default
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and ya'll act like Shaq is getting to the Finals without Kobe
on some "b-b-b-but if Jerry West had gotten T-mac/Carter instead of Kobe...."
Kareem is still better than him by default
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and ya'll act like Shaq is getting to the Finals without Kobe
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2000 Kobe was also just 21 years old
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Originally Posted by laker4lifeman
Some of you guys really believe this
I don't see how this isn't a plausible statement. Kobe's impact on his first ring was dwarfed by the sheer dominance of Shaq. I believe LA had a winning record in 2000 during the games that Kobe was out of the starting lineup and didn't play (regular and post season). I'm not completely discrediting Bryantbut like i mentioned his impact was minor imo
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i agreed that is was "dwarfed" by Shaq but i don't think saying Kobe impact was minor is completely accurateOriginally Posted by Crime Wave
Originally Posted by laker4lifeman
Some of you guys really believe this
I don't see how this isn't a plausible statement. Kobe's impact on his first ring was dwarfed by the sheer dominance of Shaq. I believe LA had a winning record in 2000 during the games that Kobe was out of the starting lineup and didn't play (regular and post season). I'm not completely discrediting Bryantbut like i mentioned his impact was minor imo