OFFICIAL 2017 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFSEASON THREAD - Spring Game schedule on first page

[nako xl]

Damn, forgot how much the SC guys homer.

They've been irrelevant for so long now, the contingent dissipated for the most part, but know at the slightest sign of improvement, shouting from the mountaintops again.  

Barely beat the Buffs, and dominated Washington. Whoopty do.

You stay inventing straw men and talking to yourself. The description above is literally about you and Florida.

You're in here commenting on a back and forth between RoOK and one extremist USC fan and talking about screaming from the mountaintops.

Focus on your bottles, Bobby.

 

[MVP]

Ike, it was more of the slurpage on the football rankings show tonight. I haven't even mentioned UF outside of poking at Gunna.

Who was doing top 11s and giving us TE updates doe must be somebody else.

And E told me this past weekend that you told him to ask me about my feelings on SC. Don't be coy now.

 

[rook]

neither is anyone else outside of Bama.

Exactly.

 

[casper90403]

Ike, it was more of the slurpage on the football rankings show tonight.

they aren't completely wrong though. Its more of an indictment on how bad the rest of the teams are this season.

all irrelevant and just conversation for a very dull season for the "experts." What else are they going to talk about?

 

[statis22]

Wisconsin would bury SC

 

[casper90403]

Wisconsin would bury SC

is Wisconsins D elite though?

nako xl we might get the rematch this year. hoping not. Would be funny to see them face Wilcox though

 

[zs05wc]

Damn, forgot how much the SC guys homer.

It's ridiculous.

 

[stanfan]

Stanford don't want none.

They played a c game with an average wildcaff and won handily, really don't see them stopping McCaffrey and an actual pulse at QB now.

 

[casper90403]

Yeah. Because USC is the same team then as they are now, obviously.

All for not. No need to debate. Good to see you love Stanford again. You were on suicide watch talking crazy for a couple of weeks.

 

[gunna get it]

BREAKING: Former tutor Yolanda Kumar says she took courses for student-athletes at #Mizzou. https://t.co/Wa3bwzQXAr

 

[iDon’tRead]

BREAKING: Former tutor Yolanda Kumar says she took courses for student-athletes at #Mizzou. https://t.co/Wa3bwzQXAr

I'm pretty sure all schools do something similar or somewhat

 

[rook]

BREAKING: Former tutor Yolanda Kumar says she took courses for student-athletes at #Mizzou. https://t.co/Wa3bwzQXAr

I'm pretty sure all schools do something similar or somewhat

 

[casper90403]

Very weak of that tutor. Keep your mouth shut. As bad as idiots taking pic of Kelly smoking blunts.

 

[Bobby Layne]

“I just can’t carry this burden anymore.”

Benefits must have dried up since the team is trash.

 

[casper90403]

you wrote a paper for an athlete. Get over it.

 

[nako xl]

Wisconsin would bury SC

is Wisconsins D elite though?

nako xl we might get the rematch this year. hoping not. Would be funny to see them face Wilcox though

Fun game for the thread: name your two favorite top 30 total offenses that Wisconsin has played.

Also fun, favorite elite QB they've faced this year.

 

[Bobby Layne]

If GB is willing to get rid of Ted Thompson after this season too, is that finally the NFL job Saban thinks about taking?

**** division, good ownership, and a top tier QB.  I'm sure winning NCs every season is fun, but the allure of winning the SB probably eats at him little bit with his experience in that League. 

 

[Bobby Layne]

 

 

Wisconsin would bury SC

is Wisconsins D elite though?

@Nako XL we might get the rematch this year. hoping not. Would be funny to see them face Wilcox though

Fun game for the thread: name your two favorite top 30 total offenses that Wisconsin has played.

Also fun, favorite elite QB they've faced this year.

That's a garbage stat b, your better than that 

 

How many elite QB's are there actually in college football this year anyways? 2?  Unless your willing to expand that and add guys like Mahomes, Mayfield, Rudolph, and SWAG on a good day. 

 

[statis22]

Wisconsin's defense just for kicks

 

[Bobby Layne]

 at Nebraska and Minnesota trying to get rid of the 5 bits of broken chair trophy.  It's the only non lame trophy that's been introduced in the modern era of this conference

 

[Bobby Layne]

OSU cleats for the game Saturday. 

some AZG or VII cleats could be dope. 

 

[nako xl]

Bobby Layne

I think there are a bunch of good/elite/statistically impressive QBs this year.

 

[zs05wc]

I saw that ESPN is gonna have like 40 hours of coverage for the Michigan/OSU game this year, which is way too much.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Three-Point Stance: Brian Kelly, Heisman Trophy, awards snubs

Rivals.com National Recruiting Director Mike Farrell’s thought-provoking Three-Point Stance is here with thoughts on Brian Kelly’s future at Notre Dame, a Heisman contender getting snubbed again and some major award omissions.

1. A POSSIBLE REPLACEMENT FOR KELLY AT NOTRE DAME

One of the main reasons that Texas is expected to part ways with Charlie Strong, in addition to his historical losing record and poor coaching in Austin, is because there is a hot candidate up the road that someone else might snap up if the Longhorns don’t act fast.

We, of course, know that is Tom Herman, the head coach of Houston.

But what about Notre Dame? Brian Kelly has obviously won much more than Strong. But between his sideline antics, his refusal to take responsibility for his own coaching mistakes, penchant for throwing his players under the bus and now the academic scandal under his watch that is leading to vacated wins, the Irish might think long and hard about that big buyout, because there is a Midwestern version of Herman who could get snapped up.

I’m talking, of course, about Western Michigan head coach P.J. Fleck, who is a young ball of energy and an injection of enthusiasm sorely needed in South Bend. What Fleck has done at WMU has been nothing short of astonishing - his offensive mindset and work with quarterbacks has been amazing, and he’s from Illinois and knows the area very well.

Having had a cup of coffee in the NFL as a player and coach, working under Jim Tressel, Jerry Kill and Greg Schiano, and being known as a tireless recruiter, he is well-rounded as a candidate despite his youth. Notre Dame might want to take a chance on a potential rising star.

Perhaps the job would be over his head. Perhaps Fleck would struggle with the academic restrictions and politics at Notre Dame.

Or, just maybe, Fleck would be the next Urban Meyer and change the game. It’s a huge risk, but the way the Irish are headed now with a 4-7 record and a likely loss coming this weekend at USC, why not?

This thought came into my head back after the losses to N.C. State and Stanford when Kelly stubbornly aired it out in a monsoon only to bench his star quarterback the next week in a key situation against Stanford. It once again popped into my noggin after the Navy loss.

Now, with the academic scandal for which Kelly has been quoted saying he has “zero” culpability, as reported by the South Bend Tribune, even though it happened on his watch, my fingers forced me to begin typing.

Kelly has gone to a national title game and a New Year’s Six bowl, but he is also 37-26 and counting in the five other seasons. Perhaps Notre Dame feels it can avoid the massive buyout and get a much bigger-name coach if things go sour with Kelly next season, but the Irish might regret passing on Fleck if he’s gone.

2. A WORTHY HEISMAN CONTENDER

Last week in Rival Views I picked D’Onta Foreman as the No. 2 choice for the Heisman behind sure-fire winner Lamar Jackson, and I have seen him listed on some Heisman lists despite the Longhorns' losing record.

But there is another running back who isn’t getting the attention he deserves – for the second year in a row. Last year Dalvin Cook, arguably the most important player to one team in college football, wasn’t invited to New York as the Heisman geniuses decided that only Derrick Henry, Deshaun Watson and Christian McCaffrey need attend. This was after Cook rushed for 1,691 yards, averaged 7.4 yards per carry, scored 19 touchdowns, and caught 24 passes for 244 yards and another score.

This year Cook has been better. Heading into the season finale against Florida, he has rushed for 1,467 yards and 17 scores, and caught 27 passes for 400 yards and another TD. He passed Warrick Dunn as the all-time leading rusher at FSU and tied Greg Allen for rushing touchdowns, a record he will also break. And he’s done it in three seasons.

Yet Watson and his 13 interceptions are still on every Heisman list. Donnel Pumphrey at San Diego State, who runs over teams like New Hampshire, San Jose State, Hawaii and Utah State, makes some lists. Freshman quarterback Jalen Hurts at Alabama gets more consideration despite the defense carrying the day in Tuscaloosa.

If Cook doesn’t get invited to New York again this year, and it’s likely he won’t, it will be criminal. Foreman has been amazing for a Texas team with a weak defense, but Cook has been right there with him.

3. COLLEGE FOOTBALL AWARDS SNUBS

Try figuring out the selection process for the year-end college football awards.

Please tell me how Ole Miss tight end Evan Engram and his 65 catches for 926 yards and eight touchdowns didn’t make the list of Mackey Award finalists over O.J. Howard, Jordan Leggett or Jake Butt (Howard should be dropped).

How on earth does Vols DE Derek Barnett not make the Bednarik Award list over Myles Garrett or Jabrill Peppers, and how does Auburn DT Montravious Adams not make the Outland finalist list over Cam Robinson, who has been very up and down this season, or Cody O’Connell, who works out of a system where he has to hold blocks for just a second?

Thankfully Dalvin Cook made the Doak Walker list, but some of this is clearly just hype and determined before the season. I honestly feel that the selection folks look at preseason All-American lists, some NFL Draft lists and maybe watch some highlights on ESPN when making selections.

By the way, if you’re interested, of the 26 different players I counted making up the major awards finalists, the star rankings broke down like this:

Five-stars – 10 (Adoree Jackson', Jonathan Allen, Myles Garrett, Tre'Davious White, Deshaun Watson, Reuben Foster, Jabrill Peppers, Dalvin Cook, Cam Robinson, O.J. Howard)

Four-stars – 6 (Lamar Jackson, Jourdan Lewis, Zach Cunningham, Kendell Beckwith, Dede Westbrook, Jake Butt)

Three-stars – 6 (Baker Mayfield, Jarrad Davis, Donnel Pumphrey, Jordan Leggett, Cody O'Connell, Pat Elflein)

Two-stars – 3 (Josey Jewell, Isaiah Jones, D'Onta Foreman)

Not Ranked – 1 (Austin Carr)

 

[nako xl]

Bobby Layne

Also in regards to the total offense stat, I know it's weak, but Wisconsin has also only played two teams in the top 30 in yards per play which is a great stat for measuring a team's offense.

Don't get me wrong I think they're a good team. You forget I picked them to win the big ten west in preseason and got told by everyone how killer their schedule is. I just think now in hindsight, they haven't faced any scary offenses yet except maybe Ohio State, and they lost to them.