RIP New York Hip-Hop? (Need Some Feedback)

[kingfoamnyc]

Nay it sounds to me like this thread is just a tool you created to vent because your upset that you haven't found the next superstar from NYC to A&R. I'm glad your out here stomping the pavement for the next Jay-Z but I'm telling you this your not gonna find him with that ****** up attitude you have. I understand your upset with the current climate of NYC rap but being a self hater and playing the operative "NYC hip hop head" role is not gonna solve the current issue with rap as a whole. You claim NYC hip hop is dead but hip hop is dead on a whole ain't no classic **** coming out of nowhere. The talented artist now cannot hold the jockstraps of the legends from 15-20 years ago REGARDLESS of where their from. Rap on a whole has regressed significantly to the point where I'm not sure if I can call it rap anymore and that's attributed to five reasons. The internet, death of R&B, death of legendary producers with a distinct sound from their region, artist "dumbing down" their lyrics/lack of message, and hits being predicated solely off if thots can shake their *** to it. We had legends like Luke who made rap records to make girls turn up and shake they ***, we had ARTIST like R.Kelly who made baby making music that separated and differed itself from rap. Now we have ****** like Chris Brown who does a brand of music which he switches up what he is after each song, we had songs like juicy who were awesome lyrically and also touched on a subject like making it out of the slums that resonated with both _s in the hood and people in the burbs. I don't even know why I'm going on a tangent right now you should know better. Stop picking on NY EVERYONE fell off and ain't nobody saying or making **** worthy in rap no more

 

[wavycrocket]

Nay it sounds to me like this thread is just a tool you created to vent because your upset that you haven't found the next superstar from NYC to A&R. I'm glad your out here stomping the pavement for the next Jay-Z but I'm telling you this your not gonna find him with that ****** up attitude you have. I understand your upset with the current climate of NYC rap but being a self hater and playing the operative "NYC hip hop head" role is not gonna solve the current issue with rap as a whole. You claim NYC hip hop is dead but hip hop is dead on a whole ain't no classic **** coming out of nowhere. The talented artist now cannot hold the jockstraps of the legends from 15-20 years ago REGARDLESS of where their from. Rap on a whole has regressed significantly to the point where I'm not sure if I can call it rap anymore and that's attributed to five reasons. The internet, death of R&B, death of legendary producers with a distinct sound from their region, artist "dumbing down" their lyrics/lack of message, and hits being predicated solely off if thots can shake their *** to it. We had legends like Luke who made rap records to make girls turn up and shake they ***, we had ARTIST like R.Kelly who made baby making music that separated and differed itself from rap. Now we have ****** like Chris Brown who does a brand of music which he switches up what he is after each song, we had songs like juicy who were awesome lyrically and also touched on a subject like making it out of the slums that resonated with both _s in the hood and people in the burbs. I don't even know why I'm going on a tangent right now you should know better. Stop picking on NY EVERYONE fell off and ain't nobody saying or making **** worthy in rap no more

Nope. While I agree that the music has fallen off somewhat, there are still a number of dope artist both mainstream and not mainstream. Easy to find too. Two of the top 4 artist in the game are from the south. Cole and Future. They're making great music.

Don't hold everything up to the 90s golden era standard. It's called the golden era for a reason. I swear, if some people just opened their ears and listened more...instead of coming with an attitude that everything sucks, they may find some stuff they never thought they would listen to, to be dope.

NY is definitely lagging behind in terms of talent these days. It's been this way since Dipset and G-Unit fell off like homie said.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

DS2 is a good album though. And Future is dope....

I guess good in 2015 is having a shelf life of 4 weeks. I ain't bumping that **** on my own accord. If I hear it at a party or a club hell yeah I'm ******* with it cause the ******* do but I damn well haven't willingly played that **** in WEEKS.

 

[wavycrocket]

I guess good in 2015 is having a shelf life of 4 weeks. I ain't bumping that **** on my own accord. If I hear it at a party or a club hell yeah I'm ******* with it cause the ******* do but I damn well haven't willingly played that **** in WEEKS.

That's the beauty of albums. It came out in July. If you haven't bumped it in a month....that's ok. I didn't play every album every week in the 90s or 2000s. Let it marinate.

The album is dope.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Nope. While I agree that the music has fallen off somewhat, there are still a number of dope artist both mainstream and not mainstream. Easy to find too. Two of the top 4 artist in the game are from the south. Cole and Future. They're making great music.

Don't hold everything up to the 90s golden era standard. It's called the golden era for a reason. I swear, if some people just opened their ears and listened more...instead of coming with an attitude that everything sucks, they may find some stuff they never thought they would listen to, to be dope.

NY is definitely lagging behind in terms of talent these days. It's been this way since Dipset and G-Unit fell off like homie said.

J.Cole is cool, got his whole swag and rap style from the barely breathing East Coast though. Future ain't ****, overrated as **** if u ask me. They'll be another n_ from the A that everyone **** rides after everyone gets tired of the repetitive **** he constantly "raps" about. If Yung LA didn't turn into a dust head and get his *** whooped he wouldn't be nearly as "big" as he is. _s really want to act like Tweet Mill ain't outsell this n_ but but he the hottest in the game doe

 

[trill nimley]

I've typed a couple thousand words in this thread, MAINSTREAM and RADIO has not been one of them.

I stopped listenin to the radio when I got out of prison.

Words I have used.
QUALITY
TALENT

Y'all are just bein homers.

If y'all SUPPORT NY hip-hop like that how don't I know y'all? Why aren't we bumpin into one another at events?

I never mentioned DS2, I couldn't get into it or the joint with Aubrey, but Future is winning for whatever it's worth, and it's not necessarily on a mainstream level, it's in the streets, he's not even pushing Meek Mill #s.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Okay Nay your obviously in these NYC streets rubbing shoulders with these young NYC underground artist and you feel we have no A listers or even B listers but I ask you bro who does and where are they from ? Everyone is mediocre as hell. Lil Herb is by far the hottest young n_ in the game and his latest mixtape sounds nothing like trap/drill. Dude sounds like a back to the future reincarnated hungry bizaro world dipset member from Chicago

 

[detlef schrempf]

Discussing hip-hop in 2015 is sad, like NaS said, it's dead, all the new artists out are trap or hipster hop.

The future of hip-hop (if you can call it that) is not in New York as bad as you all want it to be, the future of hip-hop is in exploring new boundaries and frontiers, not trying to recreate the magic that once was. There's a sense of entitlement New Yorkers have about hip-hop like you're always supposed to be on top but I don't see anything fresh, I just see a bunch of illiterate teenagers that can't speak clearly mumbling about how cool selling drugs is over ipad beats putting out unproduced prison industrial complex mixtapes, it's the same crap I'm hearing out of Atlanta and Chicago and Philly.

Hip-Hop is like Rihanna, it used to be cool, it used to be hot but then it got addicted to drugs and money, got a bunch of stupid tattoos and EVERYBODY and their hypeman/ghostwriter/son/dopeman f*cked it like a rag doll and now it's just gross.

Hallway rap is a term I've never heard before. backpack?

 

[wavycrocket]

J.Cole is cool, got his whole swag and rap style from the barely breathing East Coast though. Future ain't ****, overrated as **** if u ask me. They'll be another n_ from the A that everyone **** rides after everyone gets tired of the repetitive **** he constantly "raps" about. If Yung LA didn't turn into a dust head and get his *** whooped he wouldn't be nearly as "big" as he is. _s really want to act like Tweet Mill ain't outsell this n_ but but he the hottest in the game doe

If you can't feel this. Idk what to tell you.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Discussing hip-hop in 2015 is sad, like NaS said, it's dead, all the new artists out are trap or hipster hop.

The future of hip-hop (if you can call it that) is not in New York as bad as you all want it to be, the future of hip-hop is in exploring new boundaries and frontiers, not trying to recreate the magic that once was. There's a sense of entitlement New Yorkers have about hip-hop like you're always supposed to be on top but I don't see anything fresh, I just see a bunch of illiterate teenagers that can't speak clearly mumbling about how cool selling drugs is over ipad beats putting out unproduced prison industrial complex mixtapes, it's the same crap I'm hearing out of Atlanta and Chicago and Philly.

Hip-Hop is like Rihanna, it used to be cool, it used to be hot but then it got addicted to drugs and money, got a bunch of stupid tattoos and EVERYBODY and their hypeman/ghostwriter/son/dopeman f*cked it like a rag doll and now it's just gross.

Hallway rap is a term I've never heard before. backpack?

SPOT ON. This **** is wack now and EVERYONE has to own their part in the destruction

 

[kingfoamnyc]

If you can't feel this. Idk what to tell you.

Song is awesome, as is trap n_s, and codeine crazy but his subject matter is limited as hell and he can't rap for ****. Dude is perfect when he hits on all cylinders and makes that perfect single but a album from son is mediocre at best and sounds like one big *** song. Out of his whole discography he probably has 20 good tracks and they are all extremely similar. Again I'll take a Yung LA sans dust over future 10/10 times

 

[numbah1grimey]

Song is awesome, as is trap n_s, and codeine crazy but his subject matter is limited as hell and he can't rap for ****. Dude is perfect when he hits on all cylinders and makes that perfect single but a album from son is mediocre at best and sounds like one big *** song. Out of his whole discography he probably has 20 good tracks and they are all extremely similar. Again I'll take a Yung LA sans dust over future 10/10 times

Yung LA was/still is the goods! He was diverse with the subject matter too!

 

[$tacy]

Future>>>la

 

[wavycrocket]

Song is awesome, as is trap n_s, and codeine crazy but his subject matter is limited as hell and he can't rap for ****. Dude is perfect when he hits on all cylinders and makes that perfect single but a album from son is mediocre at best and sounds like one big *** song. Out of his whole discography he probably has 20 good tracks and they are all extremely similar. Again I'll take a Yung LA sans dust over future 10/10 times

I think you focus too much on "technical rapping ability" while I focus on real, relatable ****.

If you from the trenches? How can't you relate to the lines below. Unless you just don't understand what Hendrix is saying.

"I got love for all my savages with itchy fingers/
I got love but it ain't like the Love I got for India/
She held me down when I was broke I got her to infinity/
My lil dog caught a murder gone for infinity/
Dumping ashes on your obituary, I know you feeling me"

 

[numbah1grimey]

I think you focus too much on "technical rapping ability" while I focus on real, relatable ****.

If you from the trenches? How can't you relate to the lines below. Unless you just don't understand what Hendrix is saying.

"I got love for all my savages with itchy fingers/
I got love but it ain't like the Love I got for India/
She held me down when I was broke I got her to infinity/
My lil dog caught a murder gone for infinity/
Dumping ashes on your obituary, I know you feeling me"

How can you be a dopeboy/trapper, and be broke? Does not make sense

 

[wavycrocket]

How can you be a dopeboy/trapper, and be broke? Does not make sense

Most dope boys/trappers are broke dummy.

You think this **** is like the movies huh? Lol. Money comes and goes in the drug game. No real crazy return on your investment unless you're selling wholesale. Corner boys are better off working a real job. Hence why the still live in they're mothers house, and are always down bad. I swear, being from Baltimore...we get exposed to a lot of **** at a young age.

But that's enough of that type of talk.

 

[numbah1grimey]

Most dope boys/trappers are broke dummy.

You think this **** is like the movies huh? Lol. Money comes and goes in the drug game. No real crazy return on your investment unless you're selling wholesale. Corner boys are better off working a real job. Hence why the still live in they're mothers house, and are always down bad. I swear, being from Baltimore...we get exposed to a lot of **** at a young age.

But that's enough of that type of talk.

I was being sarcastic

I live in the Fort Lauderdale/Miami area. I know firsthand, about the dope game. Tampa and Central Florida are the scam and drug capitols, along with majority of South Florida.

I was pointing out the mockery, of drug dealers. Seen dudes with Ferrari's parked outside section 8 apartments. When we got Seminole/Indian casinos down here, them boys took the dice games there

 

[JPS]

but u have to admit. Future is one sharp dresser right bro?

 

[trill nimley]

Okay Nay your obviously in these NYC streets rubbing shoulders with these young NYC underground artist and you feel we have no A listers or even B listers but I ask you bro who does and where are they from ? Everyone is mediocre as hell. Lil Herb is by far the hottest young n_ in the game and his latest mixtape sounds nothing like trap/drill. Dude sounds like a back to the future reincarnated hungry bizaro world dipset member from Chicago

The Midwest has Herb. Chance. Vic Mensa. Mick Jenkins. Sosa. All those dudes are like 22 or under.

The west got. Cozz. Vince Staples. Joey Fatts. Skeme. They are all 90s babies. Then there's another group of just newer dudes under 28. Boogie.

The south has a million Ns. And their breaking a new artist or record ever few weeks that are bubbling regionally.

As far as Cole, he's 30, he grew up to the same east coast hip-hop WE did. It's not like he's some 20 year old that's been inspired by modern day east coast hip-hop and is now recreating it. He drew his inspiration from decades ago.

 

[rico x hood]

Good to see Herbo gettin love in here. And son is only 20!!

 

[dat dude chris]

If we talking the most talented region in hip hop then the west coast got that down by far. Way too much talent coming outta there. I just dont understand why NY has to be put into its own region in this discussion. It should be put into the East Coast part of it

 

[rico x hood]

The talent is definitely out of Chicago right now. Herb, Bibby, Montana,I would say Durk but his debut was trash but he still shows flashes of greatness.

 

[numbah1grimey]

Chicago also has Tink, Sasha Go Hard, Lil Reese, Mouse, King Louie, Lucki Eck$, Saba, JB Bin Laden, Rockie Fresh etc.

 

[rico x hood]

I only named who I **** with. Reese always been wack to me. I listened to one of the Drilluminati tapes, ain **** with it. So I don't listen to Louie. I don't listen to female rappers save for Lauryn Hill. Mouse is cool but I don't check for him. Never heard of the other dudes but I'll check em out.

 

[skurrtskurrt29]

Something about Montana 300 is wack to me. Dude got bars but idk, can't put my finger on it.