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I really don’t like heavy shoes, even for easy running. The Skyward, with it being over 11 ounces in a US M9, will be an absolute brick in my M12…so it’s out based on that alone.

Rep said they're keeping it at $200 but not to quote him on that, so hopefully no increase.

Saw them in person this weekend at the Cherry Blossom 10 miler expo at the Asics booth that Believe in the Run was photographing from, they definitely still have that thick stack. Asics rep at the booth said they're still an illegal stack (45mm) and as speculated, the switch to FF Turbo+ from FF...

I'm at a loss for why I'd pick it up over the Superblast...Feel like On missed the mark here. An ounce heavier, PEBA only in the forefoot, plus more expensive? They do know competition exists right?:lol:

For fast running, I think the Rebellion Pro has it. 2 ounces lighter and they just feel fast. I’ll get a more detailed impression after I race in 9 days, I’m a bit scared of them now😂 For everything else, Cielo.

They're pretty nuts! Definitely not walking shoes, nor any running that isn't midfoot striking on forwards. I'm a pretty seasoned runner and I'm shocked by how aggressive they are.

It looks like the Rebellion Pro 1 is $200 and the Rebellion Pro 2 is $140. The trainer version of this (Rebellion Flash 2) is also more expensive which is why I think it's a mistake :lol:

Not sure but I just carted them and checked out! May as well take advantage of it. :D

It's $250 MSRP...almost feels like a pricing mistake on Zappos as these only dropped a couple months ago

Wave Rebellion Pro 2's for $140 at Zappos! (Plus 15% Rakuten!) Might want to try this as the geometry looks totally wild, just don't heel strike in them :rofl: https://www.zappos.com/p/mizuno-wave-rebellion-pro-2-white-harbor-mist/product/9948934/color/947406

Yeah, my calves are actually alright which is funny given the weird feeling where the toes are higher than the heel. But it feels like someone took a baseball bat to my midfoot, it's almost bruised a couple days later.:lol: I have other super shoes that are similarly fast that don't do this to...

Ran a 10 miler in the new Metaspeed Sky Paris and while it's super fast for me, something that Asics does in their racing shoes really doesn't work for me from a geometry standpoint. The toes almost feel higher than the heel and they feel like negative drop to me, my feet are absolutely trashed...

Will be curious about how Turbo+ feels in the Superblast 2. One of the draws to the Superblast 1 was its relative stability for such a tall shoe. Turbo+ being a bit softer will likely cause some challenges on that front but being even more forgiving of a foam and returning more energy are all...

Cielo is the closest thing to the Prime X I’ve experienced. It’s still a touch wobbly just due to the insane stack height with such a soft foam but the stability is far better than the Prime X. It makes paces feel so easy though and long runs feel like nothing in it. Really saves the legs. I...

Thanks for your thoughts, and speedy recovery on the achilles pain! I think I'm the same way with the Mach in that it's also a lightweight daily but nothing crazy or revolutionary. I do get the sense that the Mach handles speed better than the Rebel, the firmer midsole and rocker kinda nudge you...

I haven't but I feel like the shoes are very similar in function/purpose. Both lightweight trainers with bouncy midsoles. I'm also not sure the Hoka has that much more stack height? I saw differences in how Hoka/NB measure stack. I can say the Mach didn't feel like a high stack shoe and felt...

Got out in the Mach 6 this morning, really nice bounce from the full supercritical midsole. Fast turnover for a non-plated shoe. Really a joy.

I’m really intrigued by these but I did just scoop the Hoka Mach 6 which is almost the exact same concept of a lightweight responsive trainer🤣 When I blow through these Hoka’s I’ll scoop the Rebel and see how they compare

Endorphin Pro 4's are REALLY good y'all. My favorite Endorphin Pro yet. Incredibly smooth yet a good amount of extra bounce from the PWRRUN HG top layer. I always felt like PWRRUN PB was missing a little bit to equal some of the other high end foams but the combination of the two foams was an...

I mean, they're just as fast on feet right? I'm not generally looking down at my shoe color while I'm running :lol: Congrats on the score!