“Is the current state of the world as bad or worse than it’s ever been? VOLUME- wickedness, debauchery, moral decay

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Why do you feel NOW is the worst time period?
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Im not sure when I’ll get around to answering this but immediately it’s clear we are talking about two different states.

DCAllAfrican DCAllAfrican I’m actually surprised that you missed the point. I think.
For context.
The Current state of the WORLD we are discussing is the state of the WORLD in the eyes of GOD, not man.
I don’t care how comfortable your life is today compared to how comfortable life was in “WW2 times”….the state of that WORLD is a different topic, thread.


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right now absolutely not, this is a decent time for most people in many places to be alive (if not as good a time as a decade+ ago) but some truly unprecedented stuff is on the table these days...all the Old Problems could pop right back up and bring some Fresh Horrors with them.

...so go ahead and enjoy your Sunday yall!
 
There is no doubt in my mind, rather it is my belief that these times or The Current State of the WORLD (in the eyes of GOD)are as bad as they have ever been. Absolutely execrable times.

Lack of benevolence, little to no commiseration and an appetite for fake condolences is only one side of the coin.

In an effort to put my best foot forward and not spew a bunch of information that will appear as internet doom and gloom, this will take a bit more time.
 
Boys sitting in a/c, don’t have to lift a finger to get food delivered to them. Can have a personal driver appear at the press of a button, can communicate with loved ones in 4k, endless information in a magical slab in your pocket… that also had a virtually unlimited supply of entertainment via videos and music, the ability to swipe to find a love interest within an hour…. It’s not without its disadvantages, but I think this is a little bit better than the Great Depression and civil rights eras, bruvs.
 
The Current state of the WORLD we are discussing is the state of the WORLD in the eyes of GOD, not man.
I don’t believe in god though so now what? :lol:

Either way I think this isn’t even remotely close to debatable by any stretch of the imagination.

That being said, I also don’t think the struggle olympics that some debates devolve into do any good. People who are actually struggling don’t need to hear ‘hey you still have it better than [worse scenario].’
 
Its pretty bad but a lot of it has to do with being online and using social media more than ever. Ignorance is bliss for those that can turn their cheek at everything
 
PREAMBLE:

This isn’t a comparison about comfort of life now compared to comfort of life then/when.

This is a comparison of wickedness, debauchery, moral decay.




ERAS from -3000BCE to 2026 per GEMENI



  • Ancient History (~3000 BCE - 500 CE): Bronze Age, Iron Age, Classical Era (Greece/Rome).
  • Middle Ages/Medieval Era (c. 500 - 1500 CE): Post-Classical world, Feudalism.
  • Early Modern Era (c. 1500 - 1800 CE): Renaissance, Exploration, Enlightenment.
  • Modern Era (c. 1800 - Present): Industrial Age, Machine Age, World Wars.
  • Contemporary Era/Information Age (c. 1970 - Present): Rise of computers, Internet, Space Age.
  • 21st Century (2000-2026): The New Millennium, focus on digital transformation, AI, global connectivity.










OUTLOOK:

It is known that we more technologically advanced today than it was in the MIDDLE AGES but

I don’t subscribe to the idea that the civilization of early ANCIENT TIMES was this primitive civilization we have been shown. If anything, I think our current intellect and capabilities have devolved in comparison to say, Sodom and Gomorrah which was the Bronze Age/Early Ancient Times.

When we each hear this question or comparison of which times were worse, we form a conclusion by looking at this comparison through the lens of our own conscience and how we see the comfort of living today vs other eras. I think a lot will dismiss this comparison from the aspect of we have it easy they had it rough. I see it through the lens of what each does with what each has irregardless of living conditions. This is a question of morality vs immorality and has nothing to do with anything but that.



CONSCIOUS AWARENESS:

5stages of life are Birth/Infancy/Childhood/Adulthood/Death.



At the stage of adulthood we have reached the place where we understand, awareness has been reached and you are no longer afforded the luxury of blissful ignorance. It becomes willing ignorance and like it or not you chose that over moral duty, you have chosen.

Not everyone reaches that level of understanding and those who don’t will be judged accordingly.



I think the people of any ERA were capable of at least that (adulthood/understanding right/wrong)no matter how the living conditions were.



Sodom was a city that was destroyed because it was corrupted and would have corrupted the entire WORLD before it would turn from its wickedness.



It wasn’t the entire WORLD that was judged. The corruption of Sodom was isolated and stemmed from right inside their walls.



The current state of the corruption isn’t an isolated state, or STATE/Nation.

The corruption is GLOBAL. Some would say I can’t speak on the WORLD when I’ve never left the WEST and only know the WEST and I say, those who have eyes will see.







Now, the meat and potatoes.

Where to start…….man,
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It would be hard to compare times like that because only the present has mass media to show us all the immoral stuff going on in micro levels. Please don't think all that wasn't happening because it wasn't written.
This is a question of morality vs immorality and has nothing to do with anything but that.


Again, this is the probably worst YOU'VE seen and idk if its subconscious or what but it really feels like you're downplaying the stuff you didn't see so you can have this perspective. Think about all the genocide that has happened in HISTORY. Its almost disrespectful to history.
 
When you say 'Current', OP, what do you mean? I'd argue the pandemic was worse than now.
 
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO posting from the comfort of your air conditioned/centrally heated home/on your $1000 smart phone device using a wireless internet connection provided by a satellite or deep underground fiber optic cables to a SNEAKER BASED online forum asking if these are THE WORST TIMES EVER

:rofl:

get the **** outta here

go outside.
 
It would be hard to compare times like that because only the present has mass media to show us all the immoral stuff going on in micro levels. Please don't think all that wasn't happening because it wasn't written.



Again, this is the probably worst YOU'VE seen and idk if its subconscious or what but it really feels like you're downplaying the stuff you didn't see so you can have this perspective. Think about all the genocide that has happened in HISTORY. Its almost disrespectful to history.
I strongly agree that we can’t assume X didn’t happen because it wasn’t written. When I think of what is in the BIBLE(the portion I’ve read) compared to what isn’t, I think what we can read or what we were given would be similar to the people we have met compared to those we’ve never crossed paths with. The BIBLE doesn’t is everything. Not to mention what was taken out, allegedly.

Downplaying to fit my narrative would be disingenuous but I can respect why you could/would think that. I’m actually appreciative you’ve recognized that could be the case and even spoke on it. That tells me you’re actually invested in this discussion as opposed to, well that doesn’t matter now.
I assure you there is not a semblance of confirmation bias here when I say it’s as bad as ever.

Just posting the initial outlook before getting into why I feel this way caused me to pause and get off of it for the time. It’s not something I say lightly it’s something I feel is here or happening and it’s not exactly pleasant to list or rehash. It is something that came up in conversation over a week ago and something I’ve thought on plenty since. It’s not just a conversation to pass time, I feel like it’s a thread worthy topic for sure. I’ll get it out.
 
When you say 'Current', OP, what do you mean? I'd argue the pandemic was worse than now.
I’m talking about yesterday, today and tomorrow.
I’m talking about what we do from the time we wake up until the time we go to bed. I’m talking about what we idolize and who our GOD is or gods are right now and what we worship, what we desire, love, hate or seek, presently. Our goals and means of achieving them. How we treat ourselves and others, presently.
 

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you need a podcast, but NT ain't ready for that.
 
Ok now I'm starting to better understand where you're coming from, you're talking about 'people' and/or 'civilization'. I'm still coming with a hot take tho haha. I don't think civilizations has moved an inch for better or for worse. I think humans are still humans and we're gonna find a way to human no matter what. I often wonder if an "evolution" like that is even possible.
 
So if you have such a relationship with god, why don’t you ask god for the answer? Genuinely curious. Surly the almighty can tell you?
 
No not in the least but human beings seem to be (and becoming even more) the most mentally and emotionally fragile they’ve ever been.

I think it’s cuz of how connected we are due to global communication and how easily we can now interact. Add in the more complex propaganda and controlling of the narrative and thus the perception of the masses it’s easy to make ppl believe what is not real.



Oh wait this is about in the eyes of god? LOL well it’s an imaginary being but even if real you think you can even assume what it thinks? :lol Sounds kinda blasphemous but then again you wouldn’t be the first person to speak on behalf of a god.
 
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