“Is the current state of the world as bad or worse than it’s ever been? VOLUME- wickedness, debauchery, moral decay

If Niketalk curses the idea of Vince and TMAC getting a podcast what would they do with a @a-podcast?
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Logo TOUGH though

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It would be hard to compare times like that because only the present has mass media to show us all the immoral stuff going on in micro levels. Please don't think all that wasn't happening because it wasn't written.
Well I’ll be, now that I went back to speak on the green part I realize what needed to be said was said in the RED

Red first, (I had to do red second so Green didn’t get buried)I’m in the middle and actually reading the BIBLE. No church. I want to read it for myself, the church has had 50years to get me on board. With that little setup get this, I’m bathing the dogs tonight so I through on ECC, or ECCLESIATICS comes on(audio) after Proverbs ends. I’m never going to be big on quoting scripture, that comes off as CHURCH and Christian work and I don’t want to be that. The followers of Christ GOD talks about, those dudes were not some clowns dancing and pandering to the audience. They were SOLDIERS. Men that even the opps revered, not men you look at the way we look at today’s Christians who claim GOD but wouldn’t get their hands dirty in spiritual warfare because they fear whatever the dark side has more than GOD. Anyway, the book says there is NOTHING new under the sun. If it will be done it has been done. It goes in depth bruv, it’s apparent our technology is leveled up but leveled up for us and our times. We have what we create(often in benevolent ways w/ assistance) and use for times such as ours, or the present. ANCEINT times and the BRONZE age that I referenced, the BIBLE doesn’t tell us, everything. Or it did and was removed to cap our capacity or understanding of the power we possess. Maybe not but here we are, Again, we are devolved in my opinion, not evolved in comparison to those times. Mentally and Sporitually. They were walking with GOD, they were beside Noah parting Seas. They hung out with JESUS in, nah just imagine that as an event the same way you imagine let’s say, Achilles smashing on the foe, believe or not just see the event, the story even if you see it as SCI-FI. You can suspend disbelief for STARWARS, GOT, don’t front (not talking to you I’m talking to whoever reads this). like you can’t read those stories and be, impressed. Nonbelievers would call it trash and whatever and be mad about it to pop right over to the STRANGER THINGS thread and let you know they just finished Season2 and it was 🔥.
Who is really fooling themselves or willingly looking at the series of their own heart and following that instead of fearing GOD.

Looking at some of those events, things they left behind that we found, things they left behind that we found and locked away. See the PYRAMIDS and tell me, we evolved. We have media but they don’t? Man they walked with Jesus, GOD appeared to MOSES and who cares that it was in a bush, and bush that was burning. That’s not impressive to me when GOD follows it up by telling Moses his real name. He gave MOSES his name. Think about that.
Anyway, damn that was supposed to be one or teo words about Nothing New Under the SUN. I’m over here rambling, this post is ghostwritten, I’m fact this thread isn’t even something I co-signed or wanted to do, i did it anyway. What do I know, I have other things I desire to spend my time on, partnod the reason I still haven’t even answered the question the thread poses. I don’t even think that’s why we are here. This is not even what I wanted to say. A friend asked me to do it and I baked his want more than my own.
I spend time with GOD, not a lot but I have been spending time with him, talking to with him, mostly talking at him or to him as it’s often someway conversation. I don’t know if I’m getting better at hearing him or I’m just getting better at not asking for something and asking for substance. I’m not asking like I’m talking to some Genie in a bottle. I’m talking to him like I’m talking to you. He rarely answers and rarely speaks but I figure that’s because I just can’t hear and not because he was silent. I don’t know him well enough to never miss a piece of advice, but the same way I know my Biological Father well because I spent time with him growing up. Most of what I asked my Father for growing up I didn’t get. Everything I needed from him I got and I learned the difference between the two as I spent time with him. I now know him well. It’s simple of you ask me. If I want to get to know somebody I know how to do that, I’m just applying said tactics here. I don’t want any parts of a church. I read this BIBLE daily and daily I question it, who wrote this? Valid question if you ask me. I’m supposed to trust this, because why? Yea not important to me right now, I am reading it to know for myself what it says. GOD knows this, how I feel about the book and we don’t seem to disagree or agree, it’s a moot point when I bring it up and I bring it up every time I open it. I know him because I know him, This is why I call him a friend. This is why I know that I know GOD. I don’t need antibody else to believe, or to do anything other than what they have always done, that’s between them amd, that’s between yall.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO posting from the comfort of your air conditioned/centrally heated home/on your $1000 smart phone device using a wireless internet connection provided by a satellite or deep underground fiber optic cables to a SNEAKER BASED online forum asking if these are THE WORST TIMES EVER

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get the **** outta here

go outside.
You wanted to say what you wanted to say so bad.
This is what confirmation bias looks like tr1ll tr1ll
I’m not even trying to call you out, I’m just letting you know as matter of faclty as I can, this is a conversation you’d be very suited to participate in, if you knew what it was about.
So if you have such a relationship with god, why don’t you ask god for the answer? Genuinely curious. Surly the almighty can tell you?
Other than the post to tr1ll tr1ll just now, I have never spoken on my relationship with GOD and if I had one, a weak one, strong one.
I would guess you won’t find what I said about my relationship with GOD or the answer to, to umm, your genuine curiosity. I could treat you like you need your hand held and color coat it so you don’t actually have to read but, the answer is there if the question is real.
you think you can even assume what it thinks? :lol Sounds kinda blasphemous but then again you wouldn’t be the first person to speak on behalf of a god.
This started out as a good question and more than reasonable observation. It ended like **** 😂

Why waste the thoughts on that question and you don’t even believe in GOD?
It’s not out of concern for me that’s for sure.
Have a like.
 
Why waste the thoughts on that question and you don’t even believe in GOD?
It never hurts to check and verify if someone has sound reasoning or not even if they believe in god or any other questionable thing.

It’s not out of concern for me that’s for sure.
Of course not. Why do you need anybody to be concerned for you over supposed hypotheticals?
 
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It never hurts to check and verify if someone has sound reasoning or not even if they believe in god or any other questionable thing.
That was a check up on my reasoning?
Okay.
Of course not. Why do you need anybody to be concerned for you over supposed hypotheticals?

I asked you a reasonable question and eliminated concern as a possible answer.
I don’t know why you responded to that question with your answer and then accused me of being the one in need.
 
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That was a check up on my reasoning?
Okay.
Was the statement not clear enough? Don’t get me wrong no answer is an answer in itself
I asked you a reasonable question and eliminated concern as a possible answer.
I answered the question and you asked a silly question in order to reply.

And concern should’ve never been an option to begin with.
I don’t know why you responded to that question with your answer and then accused me of being the one in need.
Cuz the notion of concern is ridiculous especially given my initial statement. It was like you purposely were trying to add more words to your reply despite not saying much at all.
 
A while ago l said that certain topics should have zoom meetings; if moderated properly l think it would go well.
you'll need to screen for people who would want to be involved.
 
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Nothing about what’s been posted is giving me any motivation or inspiration to actively participate so that’s unlikely.
You are actively participating.

Don't hang out in a space where nothing motivates or inspires you.
Or hang out.

Let me wave the white though.
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You are actively participating.
Active participation with the thread topic. I thought that would be obvious or at least easy to interpret

The rest of my posts have been replies to you which have been about my post and how it was posted instead of the actual content of it or the thread topic. No need to be dense.

But if you’d rather a thread derail that’s fine.
 
Active participation with the thread topic. I thought that would be obvious or at least easy to interpret

The rest of my posts have been replies to you which have been about my post and how it was posted instead of the actual content of it or the thread topic. No need to be dense.

But if you’d rather a thread derail that’s fine.
No i'd rather move on.
Can wee movee on, I'd rather not thread derail either.
I waved the flag, Im asking if we can move on.
I will.
 
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I still don't understand how any rational person could come to the conclusion that today's society is even remotely comparable to the past by any stretch of the imagination.
Whether it's living standards, life expectancy, crime, war, famine, scientific advances, religion, ... literally every single metric was infinitely worse in the past.

Also, you speak of "in the eyes of God, not man" but what about those of us who don't believe in any type of organized religion and think it's all nonsense?
 
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Twice now you've mentioned not believing in GOD.
I didn't respond out of respect to you, your beliefs.
For the same reason I wouldn't ask Syropha(my blind cousin) if my hair looks better long/short, I wouldn't ask you what you thought if I knew you didn't believe in GOD,and since you told me what you thought I gave you the respect of moving on.
I don't want to convince you GOD is real.

In regard to this one, I could be wrong but I'm also not claiming I am right, simply voicing an opinion.
Often my opinions are ****, often I am wrong and OFTEN on this board I've said some things I was clearly wrong about or at fault on and embarrassed about.
Never hid from them. When faced with the reality of being wrong I never hid, I showed my humility.
Same thing here, I'm not saying prove me wrong and I do with all mind believe I am right but I'm open to, discourse if you will.
I'm simply introducing my opinion(which could be ****)
All opinions welcome, doesn't mean a response is warranted.

Below you said something I did want to ask you about though


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I still don't understand how any rational person could come to the conclusion that today's society is even remotely comparable to the past by any stretch of the imagination.
Whether it's living standards, life expectancy, crime, war, famine, scientific advances, religion, ... literally every single metric was infinitely worse in the past.

Also, you speak of "in the eyes of God, not man" but what about those of us who don't believe in any type of organized religion and think it's all nonsense?
You list just about everything except wickedness, debauchery, moral decay
Not only do I understand why you would think no rational person would come to the conclusion in regard to living standards etc, with the exception of life expectancy and scientific advances, the rest of what you say is not comparable I agree with you on.
With most here it seems were are comparing, not the same things.
With that being said,
YOu said "literally every single metric was infinitely worse in the past'

Would you also encompass wickedness, debauchery and moral decay?



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This isn’t a comparison about comfort of life now compared to comfort of life then/when.

This is a comparison of wickedness, debauchery, moral decay.
 
Thread title itself is TRASH.
Now we exclude, none.

VOLUME- In the Eyes of GOD not man

VOLUME- WICKEDNESS, DEBAUCHERY, MORAL DECAY​

 
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Twice now you've mentioned not believing in GOD.
I didn't respond out of respect to you, your beliefs.
For the same reason I wouldn't ask Syropha(my blind cousin) if my hair looks better long/short, I wouldn't ask you what you thought if I knew you didn't believe in GOD,and since you told me what you thought I gave you the respect of moving on.
I don't want to convince you GOD is real.

In regard to this one, I could be wrong but I'm also not claiming I am right, simply voicing an opinion.
Often my opinions are ****, often I am wrong and OFTEN on this board I've said some things I was clearly wrong about or at fault on and embarrassed about.
Never hid from them. When faced with the reality of being wrong I never hid, I showed my humility.
Same thing here, I'm not saying prove me wrong and I do with all mind believe I am right but I'm open to, discourse if you will.
I'm simply introducing my opinion(which could be ****)
All opinions welcome, doesn't mean a response is warranted.

Below you said something I did want to ask you about though



You list just about everything except wickedness, debauchery, moral decay
Not only do I understand why you would think no rational person would come to the conclusion in regard to living standards etc, with the exception of life expectancy and scientific advances, the rest of what you say is not comparable I agree with you on.
With most here it seems were are comparing, not the same things.
With that being said,
YOu said "literally every single metric was infinitely worse in the past'

Would you also encompass wickedness, debauchery and moral decay?
Regarding wickedness and moral decay, absolutely yes. I think debauchery is probably worse today (prevalence of degenerate porn consumption/addiction etc) but that’s about it.

I think a number of metrics fall under wickedness and moral decay. Things like wars, corruption, civil rights, democracy, …
What exactly would you define as wickedness, moral decay and debauchery?
I’d argue the absolute bottom of the barrel of all 3 of those combined is child sexual abuse and even though it’s still a major issue today, it was undoubtedly worse in the past.
 
Man hold up.
I didn’t realize The Dead Sea was the spot of Sodom and the 4 Cities. Still haven’t found the courage to speak out loud the > of Our Society vs….
This video, didn’t help.

 
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