1500 Year Old Bible Predicted the Coming of Prophet Mohammed

[zmoney3]

if true...

.....just like the Da Vinci Code and the holy grail..the affect this thing could have cannot even be put into words....thoughts??

A 1,500-year-old Bible in which Jesus is believed to have foretold the coming of the Prophet Mohammed to Earth has attracted attention from the Vatican this week.

Pope Benedict XVI has reportedly requested to see the book, which has been hidden in Turkey for the last 12 years, according to the Daily Mail. 

The text, reportedly worth $22 million, is said to contain Jesus’ prediction of the Prophet’s coming but was suppressed by the Christian Church for years for its strong resemblance to the Islamic view of Jesus, Turkish culture and tourism minister Ertugrul Gunay told the newspaper.

“In line with Islamic belief, the Gospel treats Jesus as a human being and not a God. It rejects the ideas of the Holy Trinity and the Crucifixion and reveals that Jesus predicted the coming of the Prophet Mohammed,

 

[dadecounty11]

Always thought Jesus was just a ordinary dude. Sounds like he was just a humble cool cat.

 

[Sir San Diego]

...Oh, you found a Bible that's different from the ones that we put out to fit our... ahem, I mean that are out in circulation???

That's cool. Nah, free speech, B...

Can I borrow it? Just wanna compare and contrast... Look at me. I'm just doing Pope #@*#. It's all love.

They believed me... lol

@!%@@ what Bible?

 

[sillyputty]

The story originated from The Daily Mail though...not a very reputable UK news source. Kinda like our Tabloids.

Even if this were found to fit into the right time period, not be a hoax, or actually be something new, how would this make the claims it asserts and the stories it promotes any more "True," "real," or "valid?"

Some are already saying it is not pre-Islam is because of the language used in the manuscript. The grammar basis for the language used in the manuscript is indeed Aramaic but there are too many Arabic influences, which especially gives it away at the spelling of 'Allah'.

Muhammad was born around 570 according to wikipedia and 1500 years ago was around 512...so...

The gospel of Barnabas was written after Mohammed started Islam...so....

 Predictions that are only revealed after the fact are kinda worthless. It is probably a fake. The writer in 7th century Europe did not have a clue how middle east was like around 0 AD, and it shows in the text. Purpose of faking this gospel could be to increase acceptance of islam among christians who were not that familiar with the bible. As muslims you have to ask yourself since you don't believe much of the new testament, why would you believe this?

Turkey is a predominantly Muslim country. Finding a copy of the Bible in which Jesus predicts the coming of the Prophet Muhammed would bring some legitimacy to Islam as a religion that they didn't necessarily have before. Therefore, there is a great deal of motivation for someone to come up with a hoax Bible with extra writing about Jesus.

Watch the researchers use science to validate the age of this text but again use selective skepticism to disagree with something not because of evidence but emotion to assert that it legitimizes the book in any fashion.

Don't let the Vatican get it though...you'll never see it again... 

 

[sleaze jar omens]

Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar


@!%@@ what Bible?

wonder how old it really is though.

 

[tkthafm]

Of course the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold in the Bible and Torah, the problem is both texts have been edited beyond recognition (ex: http://www.amazon.com/Mis...nd-Changed/dp/0060738170

Read John 16:12...�

 

[blakep267]

Originally Posted by Sleaze Jar Omens

Originally Posted by Brolic Scholar


@!%@@ what Bible?

I really did read that in the Weezy voice

 

[jordanjayyy7]

Stuck

 

[futuristic]

23 year old Niketalk member predicted 6 pages and a book by Sillyputty

 

[brocomeatme]

sillyputty gets all his information off wikipedia though...

 

[boys noize]

How the hell did they create a valuation of $22mil?

and Dailymail?

 

[jkomorowski09]

$22 milly. cop to sell.

 

[|A-Man|]

1500 year old bible predicts coming of Muslim prophet Mohammed.

 

[crcballer55]

Originally Posted by tkthafm


Of course the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold in the Bible and Torah, the problem is both texts have been edited beyond recognition (ex: http://www.amazon.com/Mis...nd-Changed/dp/0060738170

Read John 16:12...�

How does that video, or that verse show that the Prophet Mohammad was referenced in the Bible?  Many names in ancient times were taken because of their meaning and many people shared the same names. There was nobody named "Jesus" in the first century. His name was "Yeshua", or as we know it today, Joshua. It was a fairly common name at the time too.

Secondly, Scribes took painstaking measures to translate the Torah. It took 2 years to write one copy and if there were ANY mistakes, the whole manuscript would be burned to prevent mistranslations of the text. There were multiple copies of multiple books in the Torah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls (in Aramaic & Greek too). If there were discrepancies, they would have become immediately apparent and there would have been a significant outrage upon its review. Even though there are more ancient copies of the Hebrew Torah in existance than any other historical document, people are still willing to doubt the authenticity of the documents simply because "someone said".

 

[calibeebee]

I don't believe in sorcery

 

[rko2004]

Hmmm

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe

sillyputty gets all his information off wikipedia though...

To make one point. I was trying to get a date for the birth of Muhammad and the start of islam. ...and I figure the communal aspect of wikipedia would ensure that muslims would protect the legitimacy of islam online. 
Everything else is from things I already knew.

 

[milestailsprowe]

This is a tabloid article

The church would have BURNED this if it was such a issue.

Pics of pages to prove

Carbon Dating to prove

 

[attila the hun]

I see a collabo on the horizon. Nike X New Gospel, made in Turkey. Where do I line up?

 

[ruxxx]

"both texts have been edited beyond recognition"

True indeed and Scholar...

yooz a fool.

 

[dwyanewadeog]

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe

...and I figure the communal aspect of wikipedia would ensure that muslims would protect the legitimacy of islam online. 

youre a clown.

 

[sillyputty]

Originally Posted by DwyaneWadeOG

Originally Posted by sillyputty

Originally Posted by BroComeAtMe

...and I figure the communal aspect of wikipedia would ensure that muslims would protect the legitimacy of islam online. 

youre a clown.

Am I though?
Lets be honest...if you were a supporter of the Scientology, wouldn't you get pissed if there was something inaccurate on the worlds most accessible database? 

At a very minimum, a few people would seek to make corrections.

I think Wikipedia is useful in some areas and less useful in others. 

But if that some how invalidates the central point I was making about ONE fact I was trying to source out of everything else I said, let me know...otherwise that could be considered an "insult"

 

[kramer]

Wikipedia is the truth

 

[bcf06]

Originally Posted by crcballer55

Originally Posted by tkthafm


Of course the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was foretold in the Bible and Torah, the problem is both texts have been edited beyond recognition (ex: http://www.amazon.com/Mis...nd-Changed/dp/0060738170

Read John 16:12...�

How does that video, or that verse show that the Prophet Mohammad was referenced in the Bible?� Many names in ancient times were taken because of their meaning and many people shared the same names.� There was nobody named "Jesus" in the first century.� His name was "Yeshua", or as we know it today, Joshua.� It was a fairly common name at the time too.

Secondly, Scribes took painstaking measures to translate the Torah.� It took 2 years to write one copy and if there were ANY mistakes, the whole manuscript would be burned to prevent mistranslations of the text.� There were multiple copies of multiple books in the Torah found in the Dead Sea Scrolls (in Aramaic & Greek too).� If there were discrepancies, they would have become immediately apparent and there would have been a significant outrage upon its review.� Even though there are more ancient copies of the Hebrew Torah in existance than any other historical document, people are still willing to doubt the authenticity of the documents simply because "someone said".

Your Wrong. Yeshua means Jesus! Joshua is Yehoshua

 

[tkthafm]

The dead sea scrolls prove nothing more than that the old testament being compared to it is roughly the same. It doesn't tell us if those scrolls were accurate in the first place unless we assume the dead sea scrolls are the earliest written collection (and that they were written accurately) and that no contradicting versions that have yet to be found exist. All pretty significant assumptions to make. The new testament on the other hand is undoubtedly rife with contradictions/errors/omissions/insertions, there's no debate there. As far as the vid goes, Muhammad was not a common name at the time. It's pronounced exactly as the name is pronounced, yet it was purposefully translated as "the blessed one" when even hebrew/english translation yields the name Muhammad. The translation chosen seems pretty deliberate, especially when there is other evidence of another prophet to come in other places in various texts.

http://www.islam101.com/r.../christianity/mBible.htm

Reading what the Qur'an (whose accuracy/preservation is unquestionable) has to say about this whole situation makes it as clear as day and makes perfect logical sense (doesn't reject Jesus outright as does Judaism, and doesn't view him as a God as does Christianity).