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that's intense.

but what can i say... corruption, corruption, corruption. what a shame.
 
Wow, its such a shame that its getting this bad in the middle east, especially with no foreseeable solution that is equally beneficial to all involved. I'mnot entirely versed on the entire situation going on there right now, but i entirely support those who lay their lives on the line in hope of change.
 
Originally Posted by kash55

Originally Posted by smoothrick007

ok so why are they protesting?
On June 12th, Iran held its presidential elections between incumbent Ahmadinejad and rival Mousavi. The result, a landslide for Ahmadinejad, has led to violent riots across Iran, charges of voting fraud, and protests worldwide.

Keep in mind that all signs pointed to a very very tight race, 40 million paper ballots were some how counted in a few hours, 10 million ballots are missing, and Ahmadinejad won with a 2 to 1 ratio, which is near impossible with the amount of supports the opposition has.

Also, people are now protesting the regime as a whole, some calling it a Green Revolution (the color the protesters are wearing). It is possibly weakening the unpopular Islamic Government system.


and why do the people hate "Ahmadinejad"? is Mausavi more democratic or what?
 
There isnt really any difference between the two. It appears that Mausavi may be a little more lenient when it comes to Isreal amd the US, but he alsosupervised the execution of 8,000 people. He seems like the lesser of two evils.
 
so sad im sitting here watching tv and eating cheese burgers while my cousins and aunts are back in iran suffering. $*! is this world coming to.
 
kash55 is exactly right. Apparently 2/3 of the population of Iran (maybe Tehran, forgive me for forgetting) is under 30 years old and simply wants change. Irecently read an article in the British GQ that looked at the people under the age of 30, and they truly want basic freedoms. The article focused on this agegroup, and talked about this underground 'social' society: girls wear Western clothes under traditional clothing until they get to these undergroundparties, alcohol and drugs all over the place, etc. This age group is being heavily influenced by Western culture which they see in different forms of themedia: Internet and Western entertainment mostly. Point being, it's not necessarily about wanting to be materialistic, but more about having the basicrights to dress and act HOW THEY WANT if they choose to do so. The article also talked about how we in the West think all of Iran hates America yet it'sfar from the truth, it exists, but NOT to the extent to where the majority population is anti-Western. In fact, they're quite open to us, but theirgovernment won't allow for the influence. After reading that article I truly hope Iran gets their true freedom, whether it includes Ahmadinejad beingassassinated or not, because that guy clearly has to go. And yes, I'm American...
 
The only way Iran sees a change in politics is if they over throw the Mullahs.


Ahmadinijiad is basically the "Vice President", the Mullahs (Because they are an Islamic Republic) are the religious leaders that call the shots. Youcant run for "president" without their approval.



Looking at those pictures
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I hope all my family members back in Tehran are okay.
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This is just crazy and sad all around, i hope this madness comes to an end soon.
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Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

There isnt really any difference between the two. It appears that Mausavi may be a little more lenient when it comes to Isreal amd the US, but he also supervised the execution of 8,000 people. He seems like the lesser of two evils.
source? what position did he have while this occurred?
 
elections in these countries always have someone whining in the end.
"doesm't matter who wins through the election someone will always cry" - Pervez Musharraf
 
[h3]As further provocation, I'm torn between respect for Mousavi supporters for objecting toAhmadinejad's reelection and thinking they're just sore losers. I don't know a ton about the situation, but instinctually, I would say that boththe '00 and '04 elections in the U.S. were both more controversial and more disappointing considering the greater affect on both our own country andthe rest of the world.[/h3]
 
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