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Originally Posted by AntonLaVey

[h3]As further provocation, I'm torn between respect for Mousavi supporters for objecting to Ahmadinejad's reelection and thinking they're just sore losers. I don't know a ton about the situation, but instinctually, I would say that both the '00 and '04 elections in the U.S. were both more controversial and more disappointing considering the greater affect on both our own country and the rest of the world.[/h3]


Again, people only thought the 2000 election was controversial because of their ignorance to our electoral system. If they knew how our system worked, theywould have never complained. What was controversial about 2004?
 
So what, are they protesting their corrupt government system, or the fact that the lesser of 2 evils lost? Because that would be pretty stupid if it was thelatter.
 
I pray for the best for these people. Shows how primitive some places on earth still are.
 
Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda

I pray for the best for these people. Shows how primitive some places on earth still are.


Primitive how? They're fighting for their rights.
 
Originally Posted by early90s

So what, are they protesting their corrupt government system, or the fact that the lesser of 2 evils lost? Because that would be pretty stupid if it was the latter.


It's not so much that they are fighting for a lesser of two evils. This is the final straw for most of these people, who have been oppressed by thegovernment for 30 years. In Iran they are denied many of the basic freedoms we take for granted here, and some people in this thread are so quick to makejudgements against them.
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Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

So what, are they protesting their corrupt government system, or the fact that the lesser of 2 evils lost? Because that would be pretty stupid if it was the latter.


It's not so much that they are fighting for a lesser of two evils. This is the final straw for most of these people, who have been oppressed by the government for 30 years. In Iran they are denied many of the basic freedoms we take for granted here, and some people in this thread are so quick to make judgements against them.
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So they want to overthrow the government? Thats cool, but then what?
 
^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust societyis run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
 
Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

So what, are they protesting their corrupt government system, or the fact that the lesser of 2 evils lost? Because that would be pretty stupid if it was the latter.


It's not so much that they are fighting for a lesser of two evils. This is the final straw for most of these people, who have been oppressed by the government for 30 years. In Iran they are denied many of the basic freedoms we take for granted here, and some people in this thread are so quick to make judgements against them.
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So they want to overthrow the government? Thats cool, but then what?


I won't even bother with a response to this.
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Most recent reports are that the Basij forces are at all major hospitals and taking down names of all the wounded protesters who come in for help. They havealso apparently closed down and blocked a majority of foreign embassies in the area, and have tanks rolling down the streets of Iran.
 
Originally Posted by JustScoreda100

It appears that Mausavi may be a little more lenient when it comes to Isreal
How? He doesn't recognize Israel. Though, unlike Ahmadinejad, he has condemned the Holocaust.
 
Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) thatwe have over here, would never function over there.
 
Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.
ELABORATE PLEASE???
 
Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.


Iran WAS a democracy under Mohammad Mosaddeq until the CIA and the US government backed a coup to overthrow him and put the Shah into power, all for cheaperoil.
 
Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.


Iran WAS a democracy under Mohammad Mosaddeq until the CIA and the US government backed a coup to overthrow him and put the Shah into power, all for cheaper oil.
damn guess I was talking out my !$$ then, huh?
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*fades into the shadows*
 
Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.


Iran WAS a democracy under Mohammad Mosaddeq until the CIA and the US government backed a coup to overthrow him and put the Shah into power, all for cheaper oil.
damn guess I was talking out my !$$ then, huh?
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*fades into the shadows*
you said it
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Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.


Iran WAS a democracy under Mohammad Mosaddeq until the CIA and the US government backed a coup to overthrow him and put the Shah into power, all for cheaper oil.


Yup, thank Jimmy Carter.
 
Originally Posted by DieselG5

Originally Posted by early90s

Originally Posted by JDB1523

^Man I'm not trying to sound like a jerk but...have you ever read a history book? People revolt because they're tired of the way their unjust society is run. This is that moment for those people, at least they believe it to be, so why shouldn't they protest?
Not trying to sound like a jerk, but did I ask why they shouldn't be protesting? The "democracy" (if you want to call it that) that we have over here, would never function over there.


Iran WAS a democracy under Mohammad Mosaddeq until the CIA and the US government backed a coup to overthrow him and put the Shah into power, all for cheaper oil.
^ this man speaks the truth.
 
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