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2014 NBA Draft Thread
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Lmao..
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Thats not what you originally posted but its ok
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You cannot blame Chamberlain and Russell for their eras. They were still better defenders than Wallace. You'll give me Olajuwon? Yeah right at giving me him. Mutombo was a better defender than Wallace and I don't even need to get into that. I didn't list Rodman and he was a better defender than Wallace as well. No Kareem? You must be young.Who's better?
I'll wait.
Edit: Just saw your list.
As if Chamberlain and Russell had to guard dudes like Shaq.
Hakeem is the one I'll give you, Kareem, na.
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With that Orlando lineup so heavily based on the defensive end they need a KD or Melo.
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No Rodman was not better, I'm not blaming the legends for their era but to say they were better is stupid.
Ben Wallace was the best defender at the time when the league had the most talent, point blank.
Dikembe and Hakeem are the only relevant names you listed, you missed Duncan too.
Ben Wallace was the best defender at the time when the league had the most talent, point blank.
Dikembe and Hakeem are the only relevant names you listed, you missed Duncan too.
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I can think of 29 other teams too.
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I'm not getting into the debate, but rodman could legit defend 4 positions. Probably all 5 of them.
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Ben could as well, Rodman had nowhere near Wallace shot blocking and help defense ability. I wouldn't consider him better on ball against elite bigs either. Only thing he does better than Wallace is rebound.
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For you to say the legends were not better is stupid. Chamberlain and Russell were monsters on the defensive end.
Ben Wallace was the best defender at the time when the league had the most talent point blank? WHAT? Like I said you must be young.
Should that be the case, that applies to Rodman. He was the best defender bar none when the league had the most talent, point blank.
I didn't miss Duncan. I believe Wallace was a better defender.
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You think there was more talent in the league during Rodman time then now? Ok convo done.
You keep saying I must be young, but that tells me you must be old, word to your s/n.
This is the draft thread anyway so I'm done trying to show you the light, keep that nostalgia alive pimp.
You keep saying I must be young, but that tells me you must be old, word to your s/n.
This is the draft thread anyway so I'm done trying to show you the light, keep that nostalgia alive pimp.
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To the people that said he cant shoot. He's on his way 
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Nowhere near? Nonsense. Wallace was a better shot blocker, that's a given. He was better on ball than against elite bigs than Wallace. Rodman was in the big men
era. Rodman played the passing lane better as well. Add to the fact he like Jordan's size monsterin' fools.
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To the people that said he cant shoot. He's on his way
Randle had 3pt range in HS, I think it was just more a function of Cal telling him to bully and being on a team with a bunch of chuckers.
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Yea I saw that. He seemed kind of pissed about it too.
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I'm speaking in terms of a matchup for an entire game, not just switching on a possession. I don't think Ben could do it. Of course with him being a shot blocker, it wouldn't make sense to have him on the perimeter.
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They played in the worst era talent wise in nba history, yes you can blame their era, you just giving russ & wilt the benefit of the doubt because theyre "all time greats"
Wallace was a 6'7 center controlling the paint on one of the best defensive teams of all time
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dudes are still hyped on favors? he has been in the league 4 years, i know he is what 22/23, but still at this point he is who he is, maybe one mor eyear to develop, but he is not going to be a game changer
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To the people that said he cant shoot. He's on his way
nobodys guarding him
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Yes you must be young. I know you are. Me? I'll be 34 in August. You? Yes there was more talent in the league during Rodman's era.
Jordan/Bird/Magic/Barkley/Ewing/McHale/Malone/Robinson/Duncan/Kemp/Wilkins/Bryant/O'Neal/etc. Need I go on? The teams were better too.
It's a fact (facts cannot be debated) that there was more talent in the league during's Rodman's stint than Wallace.
I'm not eem trying to keep nostalgia alive. That Wallace was a top 5 defender ever was just straight ignorant.
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If Rodmans era is 90's
And Wallace is 2000's
Rodmans era is better. Probably best ever.
And Wallace is 2000's
Rodmans era is better. Probably best ever.
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I'm not giving them love just because they're one of the best. Should you want to blame their era, you cannot blame them then. They put it down regardless.
Also, Ben Wallace wasn't 6'7. I believe he was taller than that off of memory. Rodman was that size and only weighed about 212 lbs. He was a lockdown dude
for sure. Once again, I'm not discrediting Big Ben by any means. He's just not a top 5 defender of all time.
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has fords draft grades article been posted??
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You get nerlens Noel and joel embiid 100% heathly and on the floor together how do they work together on offense ?